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I think it all goes to show that SIR HARRY wasnt the great last minute super dealer - it was the board. Harry - over-rated, over-exposed, under taxed!!!

The spurs midfield looks dream teamish - and that is from a Utd fan

I just dont know who will start!

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Looks as if Moutinho is staying at Porto - but glad that Spurs didn't bid more than £20 million for him. Let's leave the nonsense fees for those who can afford them.

Not sure if any more players now on the outer fringes of the squad have gone - the likes of Jenas, Gomes, Huddlestone and Bentley? Danny Rose is at Sunderland on loan, which will be great experience for him.

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kinell.....forgot about Bentley until you mentioned him :shock:

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is Jermaine Defoe now relegated to the bench with Adebayor back...?

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Just seen that Harry Kane has joined Norwich on a season-long loan...I guess that indicates that AVB views Clint Dempsey as a striker - as well as possible cover for Aaron Lennon. All the same, I think that Spurs might struggle if Adebayor is missing, for more than a couple of games, at any stage.

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Spurs 1 up, Defoe and Adebayor linking well.......and the levy went dry. Defoe off, Huddlestone on, then off, Friedelmandela saves the hart felt blushes. I'm sorry, but he's already struggling and the ooze is around his ears. October? A very bad start.

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Anybody have any idea how AVB is going to line up the new players?! I can't see how he can play all of Ade, Defoe, Dembele, Sigg, Lennon, Bale, AND Dempsey! I assume Defoe will find himself on the bench again, so how do the rest all fit in?

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T-boy wrote:Anybody have any idea how AVB is going to line up the new players?! I can't see how he can play all of Ade, Defoe, Dembele, Sigg, Lennon, Bale, AND Dempsey! I assume Defoe will find himself on the bench again, so how do the rest all fit in?
LuckyPete65 wrote:Is the general consensus this eleven for this weekend?

-----------Friedel-----------
Walker--Vertonghen--Gallas--BAK
-------Sandro--Dembele--------
Lennon----Sig------Bale
---------Ade-------

I'm guessing Adebayor will be fit enough to play tommorow

and then after international break?

--------Lloris----------
Walker--Vertonghen--Gallas--BAK
-------Sandro--Dembele--------
Dempsey----Sig---Bale
--------Ade------

Is Lennon the one to be benched for Dempsey then?

And in general I am assuming it is one striker so Defoe is going to be back to substitute cameos?

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Bentley goes on loan to FC Rostov...until January. Wonder if he'll behave himself in Russia?

Also rumours that Spurs are trying to let Jermain Jenas out on loan to a Championship side.

Back at Spurs Lodge, it seems that Adebayor is on an intense fitness regime. This may explain why he hasn't started the last 2 games!

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When Harry was interviewed recently he predicted a top 4 finish. With the emergence and dynamics of Dembele, they must have a chance. Defence still suspect, but plenty of options from midfield. Impressed with Siggy, Bale and Defoe, with Ade still really to get on. Be interesting when Yes M'Lady returns....and there's Dempsey too. Some lowerish teams and off dayers really could get spanked. Do Spurs fans really think Modric will be badly missed?

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mephisto wrote:Do Spurs fans really think Modric will be badly missed?
Yes - when it comes to creating chances in home games against teams who defend deeply and deny space on the flanks to the likes of Bale, Lennon and Walker - Modric will be missed. Also his ability to find space and switch the direction of play, with a quick twist and turn, was invaluable in retaining possession against the better teams.

The midfield against Reading looked very powerful - even allowing for the amount of space they were allowed - but maybe not quite as skillful as last season's unit. One improvement is the distribution from the back - Vertonghen has a lovely left foot and looks a good enough footballer to play left back or even defensive midfield. Defoe was terrific against Reading, but I still think Adebayor will be needed against tougher opposition.

The big question for me is where will Dempsey fit in. Parker is going to struggle to get back in the team if Sandro maintains his current level of performance.

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AkNotSpur wrote:Vertonghen has a lovely left foot and looks a good enough footballer to play left back ....
Will/could he play there now BAE is (probably) out for a month? I know he didn't play there yesterday but I get confused over all the possible Spurs centre backs and injuries. Worse than that lot down the road from you....

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Vertonghen plays left back (very well) for Belgium,which allows Kompany and Vermaelen to be the CBs.

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AkNotSpur wrote: The big question for me is where will Dempsey fit in. Parker is going to struggle to get back in the team if Sandro maintains his current level of performance.
Agree on Sandro, thought that was his best performance, very intelligent game, always an out ball. Must admit did not see how manager would get players he had to fit system he seems to want, but Sandro makes that very possible.
Was of opinion that Modric would be a big miss, but now not so sure, the midfield pair yesterday looked a class act, looked as if been playing together for long time, one went other sat seamless.
If that is an indication of Spurs season in my view, looks from an Afc perspective worrying :wink:

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mikeg13 wrote:If that is an indication of Spurs season in my view, looks from an Afc perspective worrying :wink:
At this stage, I don't think that you have too much to worry about, Mike. Reading were pretty poor opposition and, on that evidence, I think that they'll struggle to stay up. However, they did expose Kyle Walker's big weakness and he was caught out of position, at the far post, twice - once for the goal and the other time when fortunate that a slight push negated his handball offence. Walker is a terrific attacker - and a handy height for defending against deep crosses - but his positional play in defence leaves something to be desired.

Bale looks to be protecting the ankle that Charlie Adams attacked in pre-season, so he tended to drift inside and give simple passes. Perhaps he was also feeling the effect of 2 tough games for Wales and/or doesn't see much point in hitting the line too often without an aerial target (one fantastic delivery from a free kick nearly lead to a a goal for Sigurdsson).

Hoping that ESPN show the Lazio game as it will be interesting to see the rest of the squad in action.

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Spurs would have been massively improved if Modric had played instead of Siggurdson, in Siggy's position.

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hancockjr wrote:Spurs would have been massively improved if Modric had played instead of Siggurdson, in Siggy's position.
That's not Modric's best position; finishing is not the strongest part of his game and he offers no threat in the air. Modric is a midfield playmaker - not an 'ace in the hole' style player. IMHO, the player to compare Modric with will be Dembele - Siggurdson is the replacement for Van der Vaart. :wink:

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Who will Dempsey be vying with for a palce in the side?

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plasticninja wrote:Who will Dempsey be vying with for a palce in the side?
To be honest, I'm not sure. Could be Siggurdson (nap), Defoe, Adebayor or even Lennon (who doesn't appear to have any other deputy in the current squad). Hopefully, we'll get some indication in the Lazio game.

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Dempsey replaced Siggurdson for the Lazio game.

Before anyone asks - Adebayor missed the game due to a hamstring injury (a victim of AVB's intensive training regime?). Other players unavailable were Scott Parker (achilles), Heurelho Gomes (ankle), Jake Livermore (groin), Younes Kaboul and Benoit Assou-Ekotto (both knee).

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hancockjr wrote:Spurs would have been massively improved if Modric had played instead of Siggurdson, in Siggy's position.
That's not Modric's best position; finishing is not the strongest part of his game and he offers no threat in the air. Modric is a midfield playmaker - not an 'ace in the hole' style player. IMHO, the player to compare Modric with will be Dembele - Siggurdson is the replacement for Van der Vaart. :wink:
Utterly missing the point. I'm not sying it is his best poistion, merely that Spurs would have been massively improved if Modric had played instead of Siggurdson, where Siggy had played.

Do you agree or do you disagree?

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hancockjr wrote:
AkNotSpur wrote:
hancockjr wrote:Spurs would have been massively improved if Modric had played instead of Siggurdson, in Siggy's position.
That's not Modric's best position; finishing is not the strongest part of his game and he offers no threat in the air. Modric is a midfield playmaker - not an 'ace in the hole' style player. IMHO, the player to compare Modric with will be Dembele - Siggurdson is the replacement for Van der Vaart. :wink:
Utterly missing the point. I'm not sying it is his best poistion, merely that Spurs would have been massively improved if Modric had played instead of Siggurdson, where Siggy had played.

Do you agree or do you disagree?
Hard to see that Modric would have made a 'massive' difference - but my point remains, they are 2 different types of player and the comparison is not a particularly worthwhile one. Similarly I don't see Dempsey as a replacement for Modric either. Some interesting comments (including from mikeg on here) about the inter-changing between Sandro and Dembele - this wouldn't have been so easy with Modric as he is not as strong, defensively, as those 2 players. Different players suit different systems - anyway, Modric has gone, time to move on and focus on the current squad. :wink:

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Sigurdsson is pants...

So much hype for a player who's already becoming a benchwarmer :lol:

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Where was this "so much hype". He's a good player, who did very well last season, esp in fantasy terms, but I didn't notice anyone thinking he was the second coming.

He's still a good player, who has not quite performed to expectations, and is up against very stiff competition for his place.

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Will Caulker still play when BAE is back ? Probably in 2 weeks time .

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On bbc text today, lots of negativity about Dempsey. not watched a lot this season, but he's done pretty well hasn't he? Why are Spurs fans a bit anti?

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Defoe off injured, Is Harry Kane any good as a striker?
Could be a cheapie for fantasy games

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Achiles74 wrote:Defoe off injured, Is Harry Kane any good as a striker?
Could be a cheapie for fantasy games
I doubt if Kane will play against Newcastle next week, even if Defoe is injured and Adebayor still at the ACN. Currently following the Togo v Burkina Faso game hoping that Togo get knocked out and Adebayor doesn't get an injury on what appears to be a dreadful pitch.

Spurs' season could rest on the Togonator coming back and earning his money, he didn't contribute very much before he went to Africa.

Not sure why many Spurs fans don't like Dempsey - IMHO he's a good squad player. A team full of Gareth Bales would be handy - but that's not exactly feasible.

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Big win for Spurs today - when are you guys going to revert to type and capitulate? :?

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Groomyd wrote:Big win for Spurs today - when are you guys going to revert to type and capitulate? :?
Just as much a case of when Chelsea and Arsenal start winning regularly - otherwise, it's going to be very tight for places 3-7. Given Spurs' resources I don't think that final league placings of 4, 5 and 4 in the past 3 seasons represent capitulation, just a couple of instances of the seasonal lull coming near the end of the campaign. :wink:

Actually, Spurs are really hanging on now and scoring one goal a game isn't going to be enough. Losing Sandro was a big blow and it remains to see if Parker can recapture his best form. A heck of a lot rests on Bale and keeping at least one striker fit for the remainder. Progessing further in the Europa League might also make it tough to stay in the Top 4 - although my preference would be to win a real trophy and not the Wenger Cup.

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