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Everton - how do they line up now?

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Win 22-0 seems like they chose suitable opponents then

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don't see the point in friendlies like that, I know they have to start pre season somewhere but they'll have got nothing from that, players looked embarrassed.

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Anyone watched the others, trying to get some feedback on Theo. Also getting one of Coleman or Baines and was wondering if Baines is still on set pieces and pens.

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Does Baines not lose his place to Digne?

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ctibbits wrote: 03 Aug 2018, 00:05 Anyone watched the others, trying to get some feedback on Theo. Also getting one of Coleman or Baines and was wondering if Baines is still on set pieces and pens.

July 18th - Bury 1 Everton 1
Gigg Lane, Bury

Goals: Niasse 63

Line-up: Stekelenburg; Coleman (Kenny HT), Jagielka (Pennington HT), Keane (Williams HT), Baines (Robinson HT); Schneiderlin (Bešić HT), Davies (Connolly HT); Sandro (Martina 75), Dowell (Klaassen HT), Mirallas (Vlašić HT); Tosun (Niasse HT).



July 21st - Lille 0 Everton 0 (5-3 on penalties) (Algarve Football Cup)
Estádio Algarve, Faro

Line-up: Stekelenburg; Kenny, Pennington, Williams (Holgate 84), Robinson; Bešić, Connolly (Davies 79); Sandro (Mirallas HT), Klaassen (Dowell 79), Vlašić; Niasse.



July 22nd - Porto 1 Everton 0 (Algarve Football Cup)
Estádio Algarve, Faro

Line-up: Stekelenburg; Coleman, Jagielka (Holgate 75), Keane, Baines; Schneiderlin, Davies (Bešić 87); Sandro, Dowell (Niasse 87), Mirallas (Vlašić 73); Tosun.



July 26th - Blackburn 3 Everton 0
Ewood Park, Blackburn

Line-up: Stekelenburg; Kenny (Coleman HT), Pennington (Jagielka HT), Williams (Keane HT), Robinson (Baines HT); Bešić (Schneiderlin HT), Davies (Gueye HT); Sandro (Vlašić 80), Sigurðsson (Dowell HT), Mirallas (Richarlison HT); Niasse (Tosun HT).



July 28th - Rennes 4 Everton 1
Stade Municipal, Vitré

Goals: Richarlison 45

Line-up: Stekelenburg; Coleman, Jagielka, Keane, Baines; Schneiderlin, Gueye (Davies 75); Sandro (Mirallas 75), Sigurðsson, Richarlison; Tosun (Niasse 75).



August 4th - Everton v Valencia
Goodison Park, Liverpool

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Thanks, think I'll steer clear for the moment.

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Theo got Tosun's Ass today and Ziggy corner led to Keane goal - losing 3-2, last I heard.

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ctibbits wrote: 03 Aug 2018, 00:05 Anyone watched the others, trying to get some feedback on Theo. Also getting one of Coleman or Baines and was wondering if Baines is still on set pieces and pens.
This was written up on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/comm ... r_summary/

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I watched the Valencia games and Theo made the same move coming inside running into dead ends and losing the ball. He luckily pulled it off once and put Tosun through (he very nearly lost the ball)

Everything was coming through Richarlison in the first 45 mins he was mixing it up running wide and crossing and cutting inside and playing balls in. He got in behind almost every time he had the ball. He cut inside once and almost scored, good save by the goalkeeper. In the second half Valencia had the DM double up with the RB to mark Richarlison and he was less effective but still involved in some 1-2 balls that could have led to goals.

Richarlison is the 1 player from Everton I would start the season with due to their fixtures, then see how it goes.

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With so many new players coming in, has anyone got a clue what the team could look like? Or are most of them just bench warmers as we have seen in the past?

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Zouma dealsheet submitted according to reliable journalist Phil Kirkbride

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Lucky wrote: 09 Aug 2018, 17:17

With so many new players coming in, has anyone got a clue what the team could look like? Or are most of them just bench warmers as we have seen in the past?
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liquidfootball2 wrote: 09 Aug 2018, 17:54
Lucky wrote: 09 Aug 2018, 17:17

With so many new players coming in, has anyone got a clue what the team could look like? Or are most of them just bench warmers as we have seen in the past?

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Thanks for your thoughts. So no more space for space for Baines and Jagielka.

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Lucky wrote:
liquidfootball2 wrote: 09 Aug 2018, 17:54
Lucky wrote: 09 Aug 2018, 17:17

With so many new players coming in, has anyone got a clue what the team could look like? Or are most of them just bench warmers as we have seen in the past?

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Thanks for your thoughts. So no more space for space for Baines and Jagielka.
No Gylfi Sigurdsson will be one of those central midfield two with possibly Gana or Comes benched.

Baines may get a look in at left back where he may share games with Digne.

Jagielka would need a major injury crisis at centre back to get in and I think it very unlikely with Michael Keane another option in reserve

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* Gana or Gomes benched

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So a new spine....

Zouma over Keane? I can't say I watched Stoke(?) last season. Was he any good?

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I feel this merits a thread of its own now.

Particularly in midfield, how the hell will they line-up once everyone is integrated? There's a lot of permutations with both Bernard and Gomes in the squad now.

The back four would seem to be Coleman-Mina-Zouma-Digne.

Tried an Everton forum, but they're too busy masturbating themselves into a frenzy to actually talk tactics.

Anyone on here care to speculate?

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Isn't Bernard a winger?

I thought Siggy was nailed on in the number 10 role and have him in a few of my fantasy teams. :(

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------------Pickford---------
Coleman-Mina-Zouma-Digne
----Gomes--Gueye-------
--------Siggy-------
Bernard-----Richarlison
-------Tosun---------

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blahblah wrote:So a new spine....

Zouma over Keane? I can't say I watched Stoke(?) last season. Was he any good?
Keane has been really woeful last season and in pre-season, although tbf to him carrying an old age pensioner like Jagielka isn't too easy in itself. He may get time to prove himself with a better partner.

Zouma really suffered in a similarly poor defence at Stoke, sometimes a defender can be dragged down by the dross around him, I suspect he will start.

As there are so many changes, three of the back four and the keeper returning compared to the pre season rubbish that played there, it'll almost certainly take time for the defence to settle and form any form of understanding.

If I was playing fpl this season I would possibly avoid the Everton defence until it's had time to bond and form more of an understanding between the players, they are still likely to be like strangers to each other initially and goals conceded. It should settle down.

On Bernard, he can play put wide but is more suited to number 10, I would see siggy in a deeper role behind.

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Stemania wrote:------------Pickford---------
Coleman-Mina-Zouma-Digne
----Gomes--Gueye-------
--------Siggy-------
Bernard-----Richarlison
-------Tosun---------

?
Yes initially definitely with Walcott may be missing although he has been training but no match practice.

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liquidfootball2 wrote: 09 Aug 2018, 18:45
Stemania wrote:------------Pickford---------
Coleman-Mina-Zouma-Digne
----Gomes--Gueye-------
--------Siggy-------
Bernard-----Richarlison
-------Tosun---------

?
Yes initially definitely with Walcott may be missing although he has been training but no match practice.
Theo played in last friendly, I think he ass'ed Tosun, check PB's thread for how long etc.

Silva will be a brave man to toss all of them into a match in 48 hours, imho, but are people after the meduim\long term XI or the first few GW's?

Is there be a dead ball expert without Ziggy and Baines?

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blahblah wrote:
liquidfootball2 wrote: 09 Aug 2018, 18:45
Stemania wrote:------------Pickford---------
Coleman-Mina-Zouma-Digne
----Gomes--Gueye-------
--------Siggy-------
Bernard-----Richarlison
-------Tosun---------

?
Yes initially definitely with Walcott may be missing although he has been training but no match practice.
Theo played in last friendly, I think he ass'ed Tosun, check PB's thread for how long etc.

Silva will be a brave man to toss all of them into a match in 48 hours, imho, but are people after the meduim\long term XI or the first few GW's?

Is there be a dead ball expert without Ziggy and Baines?

Yes i agree, although the defence is so woeful he may as well change that en masse.

Possibly Keane may be retained instead of Zouma initially?

Good point on Walcott, he may well start if he's thought to be match fit. Gomes may miss out?

I think they'll play Mina as Jagielka the alternative.

Avoid the defence initially anyway

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I would expect Keane to as well so there is some "familiarity", and as elsewhere: Zouma hasn't showed as much as Keane did at Burnley? Wasn't he OK for England too?

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From Auntie:

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What are we waiting for?

Danny Ings to Southampton looks like it is ON.

We are also waiting for confirmation from Fulham for £22.3m man Andre-Frank Anguissa from Marseille and a loan deal for Timothy Fosu-Mensah from Manchester United.

There was chat about Everton filing a deal sheet for Chelsea defender Kurt Zouma, but that one is yet to be firmed up.

Stay with us.

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I feel the familiarity of Zouma to the Premier League is a major reason for his loan move, and would not at all be surprised to see him starting alongside Keane for the first couple of game weeks ahead of Jagielka until Mina is settled in. We should then have a starting back four of Coleman, Mina, Zouma and Digne. I suspect Baines may get a run out this weekend, but really his legs have gone and while probably a season too late, Digne will make the spot his own soon enough.

Further forward I see a lot of options, and FPL wise something to bear in mind is the possibility Tosun may not start every week. While I see Bernard, Siggy and Richarlison for the most part competing for two spots, there is another possibility. Both Richarlison and Walcott have spoken of playing centre forward, and on occasion I could certainly see a decision to play three runners in a 4-3-3. Ghana (or Schneiderlin), Siggy and Gomes in midfield with Bernard, Richarlison and Walcott all interchanging positions across the front. This is something they are all capable of and I have seen Bernard perform this way very well in the past in the Ukraine.

Something to bear in mind for Tosun owners. Certainly makes our forward line a lot more exciting, fluid and unpredictable!

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Last year everyone raved about Everton's summer signings and the team was appalling. This year....

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murf wrote: 09 Aug 2018, 20:24 Last year everyone raved about Everton's summer signings and the team was appalling. This year....
I thought it was more "another number 10 :shock: ".

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I think last year everyone was surprised to see Everton spending money and appearing to show real ambition to succeed. Issue was we signed the wrong players for what we desperately needed, notably a left back and centre forward. So while the initial optimism seemed well backed, in reality we had brought in three players for the same position, an unproven Spanish forward with very little experience and a centre half used to playing with a backs against the wall style of play (no offense to Burnley, its a style that works for them, but it was not the system we were utilising). Due to this, we were hopelessly unbalanced and did not sort out the issues we went into the window with (as well as losing our best striker since the Premier League began).

This season seems much better organised. For one we have an actual DOF in place and not a glorified scout, who knows how to work the system and has a history of successful transfers. We have also identified areas that needed obvious improvement and worked to address them. Time will tell if the players brought in are a success, but on the face of it they are players for required positions and players who should suit Silva's style of play (high line and pressing with pace).

I have all my fingers crossed it pays off, but I am much more optimistic this year than last.

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murf wrote:Last year everyone raved about Everton's summer signings and the team was appalling. This year....
Signing about 21 (actually three) number 10s, losing our only goal threat Lukaku and not bothering with any replacement as well as being completely devoid of any pace at all, were all hallmarks of last season's business which not surprisingly was embarrassing.

People then quantified numbers of signings, and any signings that is, no matter how dubious, and Klaasen Sandro, and a seen better days Wayne Rooney certainly were, with quality or improvement which they clearly weren't.

A side with no pace, no centre forward and too many all competing for one place will invariably struggle.

This year they're far more targeted, the defence was ageing and woeful and three new defenders brought in.

The lack of creativity, pace and strike power has been improved, and tbf last January's signings of Tosun and Walcott helped, but Bernard and Richarlison are big additions and in Silva we have a manager who could well be set for the very top in time.

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