Southampton General Chat & Starting XI Thread

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Southampton Squad 2013/14 - Wiki page

Keepers
A Boruc
K Davis
P Gazzaniga

Full Backs
N Clyne
D Fox
L Shaw

Centre Backs
J Fonte
J Hooiveld
D Lovren
M Yoshida

Midfielders
J Cork
S Davis
G do Prado
L Isgrove
A Lallana
J Puncheon
G Ramirez
M Schneiderlin
V Wanyama
J Ward-Prowse

Strikers
R Lambert
E Mayuka
J Rodriguez

[Knulpuk]

So here are the current transfer rumours as summarised in the Echo (local rag) yesterday

Moving to Saints

Not sure of the source of the Daily Mail rumours - from the names on the list I would suspect it owes much to a random name generating machine:

Radja Nainggolan, Frickson Erazo, Gonzalo Bueno, Esteban Granero par example.

•Davide Astori - £10m - Daily Mail
•Scott Sinclair - ? - The Sun
•Jose Enrique - £5m - Liverpool Echo
•Cheikhou Kouyate - ? - Daily Express
•Frickson Erazo - ? - Daily Mail
•Jesus Gamez - ? - Daily Mirror
•Victor Wanyama - £10m - Daily Mirror
•Aleksandar Dragovic - ? - The Sun
•Victor Ruiz - ? - Daily Mirror
•Radja Nainggolan - £15m - Daily Mail
•Esteban Granero - ? - Daily Mail
•Abdelaziz Barrada - £15m - Sabotage Times
•Carlton Cole - Free - Daily Mirror
•Lamine Sane - ? - Daily Express
•Charlie Austin - ? - Sky Sports
•Mathieu Flamini - Free - TalkSport
•Will Buckley - £4m - Daily Mirror
•Ahmed Elmohamady - £2m - Sunderland Echo
•Gary Hooper - £4.5m - Daily Mail
•Hiroshi Kiyotake - ? - Sport Pulse
•Saber Khelifa - £3.4m - Sky Sports
•Luca Antonelli - €6m - Calciomercato
•Gonzalo Bueno - £8m - Daily Mail
•Dejan Lovren - £12m - Daily Mail
•Ian Cresswell - £4m - Daily Echo

And just as flakily

The leavers

•Luke Shaw - The Times (£)
•Morgan Schneiderlin - The Sun
•Gaston Ramirez - Daily Express
•Frazer Richardson - Sunday People
•Danny Seaborne - Free - Sky Sports
•Guly Do Prado - ? - Clubcall
•Billy Sharp - ? - Yorkshire Evening Post

[Billy Stark]

Reports up here suggesting Southampton have agreed a £10m deal for Wanyama

Look after Big Vic for us. Tremendous signing if true, thought he would sign for a bigger club but I honestly think Southampton are going places at the moment and it is a good move for him. I'll predict he'll impress down there and within 2 years will be at a top 4 club.

With Boruc and potentially Wanyama down there I'm fast becoming a bit of a Southampton fan next season

[DrBunker]

Reports up here suggesting Southampton have agreed a £10m deal for Wanyama

Done deal: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22969633" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. £12.5m seems quite a lot lower than predicted which is good (for us).

I'm still trying to find an article about him saying it's a dream to play for Southampton but haven't been able to yet.

[Bunners]

Forren has left the club without playing a game

[Knulpuk]

Saints pre season kicked off Wednesday I think 21 players played in the match (againsy Spanish 3rd tier side UE Llagostera).

They won 2-1. The only interesting thing to note is that Rodriguez scored both goals.

[Stoneybatter]

Would any saints fans like to hazard a guess at the likely starting line up?

[Knulpuk]

A Boruc

N Clyne
D Lovren
M Yoshida
L Shaw

A Lallana
J Puncheon
G Ramirez
V Wanyama

R Lambert
J Rodriguez

is my guess

[jonesbones]

A Boruc

N Clyne
D Lovren
M Yoshida
L Shaw

A Lallana
J Puncheon
G Ramirez
V Wanyama

R Lambert
J Rodriguez

is my guess

This is close to my idea- but I'm certain Schneiderlin plays when fit. I think Puncheon is most likely not to play from your XI, but Lallana and Ramirez are also not 100% certs going on the end of last season...

I'd go for the following in a 4-2-3-1 (who plays 4-4-2 these days?!)

Boruc

Shaw
Yoshida
Lovren
Clyne

Wanyama
Schneiderlin

Lallana
Ramirez
Rodriguez

Lambert

[Tadpole]

A Boruc

N Clyne
D Lovren
M Yoshida
L Shaw

A Lallana
J Puncheon
G Ramirez
V Wanyama

R Lambert
J Rodriguez

is my guess

This is close to my idea- but I'm certain Schneiderlin plays when fit. I think Puncheon is most likely not to play from your XI, but Lallana and Ramirez are also not 100% certs going on the end of last season...

I'd go for the following in a 4-2-3-1 (who plays 4-4-2 these days?!)

Boruc

Shaw
Yoshida
Lovren
Clyne

Wanyama
Schneiderlin

Lallana
Ramirez
Rodriguez

Lambert

Looks nailed on that you'll start with that back 4? Thought you'd bought a new LB?

Assuming Lambert isn't gonna find himself with any rotation dangers?

Cheers

[Knulpuk]

I am not so certain over Schneiderlin - as a defensive midfielder I think he will lose game time to Wanyama who plays in the same position. 2 defensive midfielders in one team - probably not, maybe he will play one of them more expansively.

I think we bought Forren (CB) last year in defence but I think he has moved on without ever donning a shirt. I think the common back 4 will pretty much start eash game but expect Fox to cover for Shaw a bit.

[Vid]

OP players list accuracy check please

[Blaze]

I'm interested to know how the fans think Rodriguez will get on this season. Looks great value for 6.0 in FPL.

[Sciolist]

I vaguely recall either Shaw or Clyne was injured - was I hallucinating? Will both play the opening games?

[westofshannonsaint]

I vaguely recall either Shaw or Clyne was injured - was I hallucinating? Will both play the opening games?

Shaw is developing a habit of picking up injuries just before England U21 games. But those at the game said "it looked bad"... However, you must note that Saints fans are instinctively pessimistic & one thing that you can be sure of is that you will not get any info from the club about injuries.

Clyne is in my current draught, he's rumoured be closer to fitness but not nailed on. Over the season, I think Shaw will outscore Clyne.

I get most of my Saints news from http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/content.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here's a link to the West Brom Build Up thread... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.p ... gls9G3L9qk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[westofshannonsaint]

I am not so certain over Schneiderlin - as a defensive midfielder I think he will lose game time to Wanyama

I think it will be Cork that will make way for Wanyama and then there is JWP, Davis & Isgroves fighting for a spot/taking minutes in a similar position. I posted the following on another section of fiso...

I think Morgan Schneiderlin (£5.5) could be a real bargain. He scored 3 times in the final 13 games last season & he scored (*afaik*) twice in pre season friendlies. Before Pochettino Morgan scored 5 goals for Saints in 133 appearances. He does pick up a few cards but it is very rare when they are red & I think the new Bonus point system could suit him.
...........

In Goal - Boruc, imo, is nailed on to start & good value @ £4.5. He's settledl & Saints have strengthened in defence (only new signings are Lovren & Wanyama). *Surprised that Davis has such a high ownership*.....

* = edit from op

Lambert is in my team - nailed on, takes pen's, free kicks & some corners. Mr Southampton. Hope the England callup doesn't distract him.

[fred1266]

ok looking for a player who you all recommmend

so far i have Lallana

is Ramirez injured? and Wanyama how has he played in preseason

[Knulpuk]

Per the official website:

All of the Saints players who departed for international duty are due to link back up with the club ahead of the weekend. Artur Boruc, Rickie Lambert, Steven Davis, Maya Yoshida, Gastón Ramírez and Emmanuel Mayuka are all set to return for the trip north.

Nathaniel Clyne and Luke Shaw have trained this week, with Mauricio Pochettino hopeful of having them involved. Clyne has been out for the last three weeks, while Shaw picked up a knee injury during last Saturday's friendly win over Real Sociedad.

Best guess: I would expect Shaw to be involved as a sub and Clyne to miss the first week.

Ramirez not injured as I understand it.

Wanyama - not set world alight but its his price tag rather than form that will see him turn out.

[blahblah]

"trip north"

[Knulpuk]

When you are in Southampton everything is a trip North

[Knulpuk]

I should add Boruc played well pre season - he's nailed on IMO

[blahblah]

When you are in Southampton everything is a trip North

Which is why I found it a tad odd, well plain daft tbh

[From4corners]

[westofshannonsaint]

ok looking for a player who you all recommmend

so far i have Lallana

is Ramirez injured? and Wanyama how has he played in preseason

In my squad ATM (& will start the season - in MY team) = Shaw, Schneiderlin & sir Rickie Lambert. If I had room I would bring in Boruc.

I do try not to be biased. Last season I gained many point's captaining/bringing in players that were playing against saints. Clyne was my only season long player & did a very good job (for a cheap defender). Lambert was a mainly in my squad, but transferred out if missing a game. Other players (Puncheon, Lallana, Ramirez) were used as enablers. From an FPL point of view I think there is great value in Saints this year.

Also I am stunned by the amount of players that has K.Davis in their team = madness, with all respect to the man, he'll be fighting for a place on the bench.

[From4corners]

Southampton has just signed Osvaldo! I believe he will be a great asset to this team and the Premier League

[stevejtr]

5live was quoting 15m. big outlay this window from saints

[happyhoppy]

Just found this thread.

@Billy stark - Celtic and Saints sounds good to me , I always preferred Celtic to Rangers no idea why.


Osvaldo is a real statement of intent, the Saints are going places! 4 academy players on Sat mixed in with some quality signings, rumour has it MP was pivotal in making transfer happen as he managed him at Espanyol and of course both are Argentinian.

The future is bright the future is red and "a bit of" white.

[Number 9]

any 1 know what's happening with yoshida. Not even on the bench for the first 2 matches. Is he down the pecking order now or will he get a chance?

[happyhoppy]

any 1 know what's happening with yoshida. Not even on the bench for the first 2 matches. Is he down the pecking order now or will he get a chance?

Played in the Confeds cup, missed most of pre season now has to win back his place, Fonte scoring yesterday to rescue a point won't help. He should be 1st choice alongside Lovren but my advice get rid.

Shaw and Spider had been struggling during the week and were taken off as precautions at HT so aren't considered serious.

And before anyone asks I'm expecting Osvaldo AND Lambert to play together at the expense of J Rod.

[Paddington]

Any news on Yoshida?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... Messi.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thought he was a shoe in the play next to Lovren at CB?