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Norwich General Chat & Starting XI Thread

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Norwich Squad 2013/14 - Wiki page

Keepers
M Bunn
C Nash
J Ruddy

Full Backs
J Garrido
R Martin
M Olsson
S Whittaker

Centre Backs
D Ayala
S Bassong
R Bennett
M Turner

Midfielders
E Bennett
J Butterfield
L Fer
D Fox
W Hoolahan
J Howson
B Johnson
A Pilkington
N Redmond
R Snodgrass
A Tettey

Strikers
L Becchio
G Hooper
R v Wolfswinkel

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Re: Norwich 2013/14 General Chat & Starting XI Thread

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As it stands I expect the following to be the case (until pre-season or Hughton states otherwise):

Starting XI:

Ruddy
R.Martin
Bassong
Turner
Garrido
Snodgrass
Johnson
Fer
Howson
Pilkington
RVW

Out of those the biggest 'risks' will be Garrido (will face stiff competition from Olsson), Johnson (may be rotated/replaced with Tettey), Pilkington (Redmond may usurp his place due to form/injury) and possibly Turner (we have been linked with 2-3 high quality CB's already this window).

I'd expect Hoolahan to be used more as an impact sub, although if we sign a strong replacement, chances are that one of Johnson or Howson would make way to accomodate them (probably Howson) in the hole role behind RVW.

Barnett and Fox may well never play for us again, and Surman is also going to struggle badly to get a regular game.

I'd expect to see another 1-2 strikers coming in over the next 6 weeks, along with a CB and possibly 1 more player for the wings.

As soon as I hear any news I'll let you guys know :)

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if no CB comes in it looks like turner will be the best deal of the backline

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Whittaker @4.0m seems to be a very popular FPL choice atm ... does he have any chance of playing?

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Ironfist wrote:Whittaker @4.0m seems to be a very popular FPL choice atm ... does he have any chance of playing?

I personally wouldn't think so, turner and Bassong.

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mad dog wrote:
Ironfist wrote:Whittaker @4.0m seems to be a very popular FPL choice atm ... does he have any chance of playing?

I personally wouldn't think so, turner and Bassong.
As a fan do you agree with Indybones that Hoolahan will mostly feature from the bench?

He did seem to start less often last year than his points haul suggested he should...

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Yeah wes will be an impact sub, if that IMO. He's getting on too think he's 31 now.

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Whittaker is arguably a better right back than Russ Martin, but it's getting him out of the way that's the problem.

Going forward there are murmurs about Martin moving more into a CB role in the future, but for the time being he's the first choice in the RB slot ahead of Whittaker.

Bassong is the only absolute nailed on certainty, but if we don't sign another CB then Turner will be alongside him most weeks, and I'd expect Martin and Garrido to start alongside them at least for the first few games anyway.

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Any chance of Olson being used further forward? Left wing?

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mad dog wrote:Yeah wes will be an impact sub, if that IMO. He's getting on too think he's 31 now.
He wasn't a regular in the promotion season?

I seem to remember him starting on the bench, especially against the more physical Champ sides? And in the Prem, not starting against the top sides?

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Tadpole wrote:Any chance of Olson being used further forward? Left wing?
Well, you can never say never, but when we've already got Pilkington and Redmond fighting it out on the left (potentially even Surman or Snodgrass as well), I don't see Olsson getting much time there.

I think it'll be a straight fight with Garrido for the LB slot and unless we see something VERY different in pre-season then Olsson as an OOP prospect looks highly doubtful.

As for Hoolahan, there's no secret about the fact that Hughton is desperately looking to bring in a new player for the 'hole' role that Hoolahan occupies (Toivonen and Quagliarella the main two so far, but Maxi Lopez is also now being touted), so there's really no guarantee of him even starting. Add in the fact that he may be good for us for what he brings to the pitch, but from a fantasy perspective he doesn't score or assist enough to choose him over players like Snoddy or Pilks.

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How does the Hooper signing affect predicted line up?

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Darbyand wrote:How does the Hooper signing affect predicted line up?
It doesn't IMHO based on current evidence and my own views regarding Hughton and his tactics.

Hughton prefers either a 4-4-1-1 or a 4-2-3-1, and RvW is undoubtedly the primary choice for that front role. Hooper could potentially be utilised behind him instead of Hoolahan, but seeing as how we've spent the last 2-3 weeks chasing players like Ola Toivonen and Fabio Quagliarella to play there instead, I somewhat doubt that Hooper will get the nod.

Even in the game against Braga where Hooper scored twice, it was mainly because he was played in RvW's position with Hoolahan behind him, but when Hoolahan was switched for RvW at half-time, RvW took the front role with Hooper playing off him instead and Hooper looked FAR worse there and was subbed 20 mins later for Butterfield...

I personally view Hooper as having been signed as competition/cover for RvW in the lone striker role (with Becchio furthest behind in the pecking order at present), and that we are highly unlikely to switch to a more orthodox 4-4-2 unless we are behind and really trying to get something out of a match.

I still firmly expect another player to come in over the next week (hope to god it's Quag) for the linking role between mid and attack to replace Wes, with Butterfield potentially being used sparingly as third choice for the role when needed.

So after all that I'd advise caution regarding any selection of Hooper (at least for the first couple of games), and don't think that the 0.5 saving over RvW represents good value in relation to the minutes I think he'll get...

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Would the Norwich fans please check the OP for the accuracy of the squad list?

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Vid wrote:for Norwich chat

Norwich Squad 2013/14 - Wiki page

Keepers
M Bunn
J Ruddy
C Nash

Full Backs
J Garrido
R Martin
M Olsson
S Whittaker

Centre Backs
D Ayala
S Bassong
R Bennett
M Turner

Midfielders
E Bennett
L Fer
D Fox
W Hoolahan
J Howson
B Johnson
A Pilkington
N Redmond
R Snodgrass
A Tettey
J Butterfield

Strikers
L Becchio
R v Wolfswinkel
G Hooper
Updated as requested, new additions are in bold, Barnett has been removed following his move to Wigan.

We may also see a couple of our FA Youth Cup winning team get occasional minutes here and there, but certainly not enough to be relevant.

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Cheers, I did make the changes to the database but forgot to update this thread, all done now.

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Something that seems to have only just come to light. Leroy Fer is suspended for the first game of the EPL season, due to a ban carried forward from the Dutch FA

Worth noting for those planning on using him in GW1 of games, as sites such as FPL havent flagged him yet

Tweet from our CEO confirming
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Leroy Fer is suspended for the first game of the season and we were of course aware of this fact when we signed him.

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Good spot Brian, saw it earlier today but didn't get round to posting it up, although Fer does have a surprisingly small take-up so far considering our good fixtures and how well he did last season and in the Euro U21's (and that was well before this came to light).

Also, if pre-season is anything to go by, it looks like Olsson may well win the race for the LB slot for the Everton game as he's looked FAR superior to Garrido (admittedly based on limited apps) and seems to offer the same (if not better) defensive attributes, but with much more pace and attacking intent (not to mention a great cross as well). Depending on what happens in the next week I may well take the gamble instead of putting Turner in.

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NEWSFLASH!

Hooper has injured his knee in the friendly against Panathinaikos, looks pretty bad to me, but even a small twist or tear could see him easily miss 4-6 weeks, so RvW is very much the main focal point of our attack, at least for the forseeable future...

Let's hope to god that the move for Quagliarella and or Toivonen appears asap or we could be going into the season with just RvW and Becchio as our strikers...!!!!

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Indy_Bones wrote:NEWSFLASH!

Hooper has injured his knee in the friendly against Panathinaikos, looks pretty bad to me, but even a small twist or tear could see him easily miss 4-6 weeks, so RvW is very much the main focal point of our attack, at least for the forseeable future...

Let's hope to god that the move for Quagliarella and or Toivonen appears asap or we could be going into the season with just RvW and Becchio as our strikers...!!!!
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That would be Bradley Johnson - Defensive Midfielder, can't hit a cow's backside with a banjo 99% of the time, so don't expect him to be doing that regularly this season!

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Indy_Bones wrote:That would be Bradley Johnson - Defensive Midfielder, can't hit a cow's backside with a banjo 99% of the time, so don't expect him to be doing that regularly this season!
ok thanks so guess my best option is still Snoodgrass then

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fred1266 wrote:
Indy_Bones wrote:That would be Bradley Johnson - Defensive Midfielder, can't hit a cow's backside with a banjo 99% of the time, so don't expect him to be doing that regularly this season!
ok thanks so guess my best option is still Snoodgrass then
IF Hooper is injured and missing for a while, Snodgrass will be the biggest beneficiary from that situation.

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Bassong flagged as injured on FPL too.

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hancockjr wrote:Bassong flagged as injured on FPL too.
Yep, still recovering from surgery in the summer, will be playing for U21 team today (I think), and has an outside chance of making the Everton game, but Turner is the safer bet at the minute.

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I'd be extremely grateful if someone was so kind and enlightened me about the M. Olsson's role in the team.
With a quick glance, it seems that he has started the last few matches, but always got substituted at the half. Also if i'm not mistaken he started the latest match as a winger.
Offensive-minded defender, sometimes played on the wing - this sounds like a tempting possibility to me. Then again he is only picked by 1 % and almost every 6th manager has Garrido, whom he competes over the spot with.

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The truth is that we just don't know what's happening with Olsson.

He's covered left wing on occasion in pre-season mainly due to Pilks having a few knocks, but looked superb at left back against Sociedad and on that showing would easily beat Garrido to the LB role.

Going forwards I think he WILL be the first choice LB for us with Garrido being used as injury cover/cups etc, and as we already have Redmond, Pilks and even Snoddy who can play on the left, he'll only be used there sparsely IMHO, with Pilks and Redmond fighting it out for the starting spot (Redmond will start against Everton as Pilks isn't match fit according to Hughton).

He's definitely worth keeping an eye on as his pace and crossing were very useful, but he surely represents too much of a gamble in the opening couple of gameweeks.

The safe money is on Turner if you want a NOR def, and if Bassong isn't fit for Everton, then either R.Bennett or Martin will be in the other CB position.

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I've put Snodgrass in a few teams as I think he'll be playing most games unil he gets injured

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If that is the Brum Redmond I have only seen him on the right.

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Where's Becchio? Will he get a game? Why did they buy him? Was it just to get rid of Morison? Even though he left Leeds in January he was still Leeds top scorer with 15 goals. Not bad for half season. Just championship material then?

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