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Tacalabala
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League of 6

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In the wake of the cancellation of the Money League, myself and the managers that had already paid in to that competition plus a few others agreed to the following replacement competition:

Format

- Single 6 team classic league, all trades allowed, mutually agreed draft time of Sunday 5 Aug 20:00 BST (90 second per turn).
- £25 entry fee (same as Money League originally)
- How much the overall winner takes at the end depends on the following...
- ... At the end of each month, the bottom team in the league at that time 'loses' £10 of their entry fee which goes into the winner's pot. However, if the bottom team has no more entry fee left to lose, the winner's pot won't increase. So, the only way the winner's pot will increase is by taking everybody's entry fee, in other word's picking their pockets.
- The overall winner takes home the winner's pot plus however much is left of their own entry fee, while everyone else will also take back whatever is left of their entry fee.

To explain, we all start with £25.00, our entry fee. Now, say I'm bottom at the end of August, then £10.00 of my £25.00 will be transferred to the winner's pot. If I'm still bottom at the end of September, £10.00 from my remaining £15.00 will go into the winner's pot, which is now £20.00. If I'm still bottom at the end of October, as I only have £5.00 left, that will go into the winner's pot which is now £25.00. If I'm still bottom at the end of November, as I don't have anything left to give, the winner's pot stays at £25.00.

So, in the above first four months of the season, there was the opportunity to have £40.00 in the winner's pot, but because I was bottom the whole time, that opportunity was lost and the pot is only £25.00 so far. It's therefore in the league leader's, and arguable 2nd's, interest to make sure bottom place isn't occupied by the same manager more than twice at the end of the month, and thus will encourage trading between top and bottom.

At the end of the season, everyone get's back whatever is left of their entry fee that hasn't gone into the winner's pot, and obviously the winners take the pot.

Participant and pots

As of 12 May 2019
WINNER'S POT - £25
Tacalabala - £25 Paid
Pirlo's Beard - £25 £50 paid
Taivt - £25 Paid
Beerfuelledman - £25 Paid
Mav3rick - £25 Paid
Thebillfella - £0 (-£10 in August, -£10 in September, -£5 in October, £0 in November, £0 in December, £0 in January, £0 in February, £0 in March, £0 in April, £12 in May)

Months as defined by FPL

August: Gameweek 1 - 3
September: 4 - 7
October: 8 - 10
November: 11 - 13
December: 14 - 20
January: 21 - 24
February: 25 - 28
March: 29 - 32
April: 33 - 36
May: 37 - 38

Mav's RTM League link - https://ratemyteam.uk/Fiso/DraftLeague/31882

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Re: League of 6

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If other FISOers can organise themselves to create another League of 6, then I'm happy to act as treasurer but you'll have to do the admin for that :)

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Re: League of 6

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I doubt any of us have any huge weaknesses in a 6 man draft, but I'm happy with my squad I think, could have done with one more premium defender but happy to rotate Coleman by fixtures/transactions I think.

Alisson, Courtois
Azpilcueta, Davies, Rose, TAA, Coleman
Sterling, Hazard, Mahrez, B.Silva, Jota
Aubameyang, Mitrovic, Wood.


Will entertain multi-player swap deals for B.Silva :o

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Re: League of 6

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I was thinking offering you Willian and Gray for Bilva and Wood, but Gray is in form, Will could be starting for United on Friday night, whereas Wood had to go off against Aberdeen and they have a lot of games in August. I do fancy Bilva to be a breakout player this season, now in my regular team in fact.

Fabianski, Schmeichel
Vertonghen, Monreal, Sakho, Rudiger, Bellerin
Salah, Pogba, Gross, Willian, Milivojevic
Vardy, Arnautovic, Gray

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Re: League of 6

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Didn't go too badly, seemed to just miss my top choice a few times but I guess everyone felt a little of that. I noticed everyone was a lot less keen to fill up on strikers than last year. Hoping either Alderweireld or Maguire become Utds first choice CB by the time the season starts.

Lloris, Leno
VVD, Walker, Alonso, Alderweireld, Maguire
Mane, Sane, Ozil, Keita, Lucas
Kane, Tosun, Rashford

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Re: League of 6

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Yeah I think with 18 strikers selected there was less pressure to jump in on them. Even now there's a few selectable ones left over.

Good squad that BFM, obviously looking to defend your title :)

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Re: League of 6

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Tacalabala wrote: 05 Aug 2018, 20:56 I was thinking offering you Willian and Gray for Bilva and Wood, but Gray is in form, Will could be starting for United on Friday night, whereas Wood had to go off against Aberdeen and they have a lot of games in August. I do fancy Bilva to be a breakout player this season, now in my regular team in fact.

Fabianski, Schmeichel
Vertonghen, Monreal, Sakho, Rudiger, Bellerin
Salah, Pogba, Gross, Willian, Milivojevic
Vardy, Arnautovic, Gray
I was reasonably happy to be able to select Wood as 14th pick I think. Would have preferred a stronger option but will only play 2 at most up top anyway most of the time.

What did you think of 6 teams as a format? It's left some options open for transactions for sure, the draft never felt particularly challenging but at least that means it's not all on the outcome of it.

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Re: League of 6

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Yep, certainly feels more open, I can't see anyone being cut off at the bottom, which is a good thing as otherwise the winner won't win much :lol: there are definitely a few potential defensive assets and surprises on the FA list.

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Re: League of 6

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Beerfuelledman wrote: 05 Aug 2018, 21:00 I noticed everyone was a lot less keen to fill up on strikers than last year.

Not me! I was last pick in a 10-team Draft league last season and ended up with the absolute dregs of the forward selection. Today I was like a kid at Christmas when the first three of you made your selections and Agüero was still available.

My midfield is fairly weak though. I regret not picking at least one of Hazard or Pogba when I had the chance. And Mav3rick beat to me to Mahrez by one pick.

Pickford, Hennessey
Robertson, Mendy, Van Aanholt, Stones, Áke
Eriksen, Sigurðsson, Schürrle, Martial, Walcott
Agüero, Zaha, King

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Re: League of 6

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By the way, have the rest of you played Draft with this 'trade' format last year? I haven't so it's all a bit new to me.

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Re: League of 6

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It's new this season, so we're all learning to walk with it.

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Re: League of 6

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Tacalabala wrote: 05 Aug 2018, 22:21 It's new this season, so we're all learning to walk with it.

Ah, gotcha.

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Re: League of 6

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Reasonable satisfied with my picks considering I was last pick:

De Gea, Partricio
Bailly, Young, Trippier, Luiz, Laporte
De Bruyne, Alli, Silva, Son, Lingard
Lukaku, Jesus, Giroud


Surprised Giroud was still available at the end tbh

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Re: League of 6

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My team:

Ederson , Cech
Otamendi, Valencia, D.Sanchez, Moses, Baines
A. Sanchez, Ramsey, Mkhitaryan, Pedro, Richarlison
Firmino, Lacazette, Morata.

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Re: League of 6

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taivt wrote: 06 Aug 2018, 02:10 My team:

Ederson , Cech
Otamendi, Valencia, D.Sanchez, Moses, Baines
A. Sanchez, Ramsey, Mkhitaryan, Pedro, Richarlison
Firmino, Lacazette, Morata.
Been inundated with trade offers from you taivt! Unfortunately, there does not appear to be any way of either accepting or declining thus far - not enabled by FPL towers yet or not something we can do until after kickoff?

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Re: League of 6

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thebillfella wrote: 06 Aug 2018, 13:21
taivt wrote: 06 Aug 2018, 02:10 My team:

Ederson , Cech
Otamendi, Valencia, D.Sanchez, Moses, Baines
A. Sanchez, Ramsey, Mkhitaryan, Pedro, Richarlison
Firmino, Lacazette, Morata.
Been inundated with trade offers from you taivt! Unfortunately, there does not appear to be any way of either accepting or declining thus far - not enabled by FPL towers yet or not something we can do until after kickoff?
Go to the Transactions screen

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Re: League of 6

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Sorry for making so many requests. I just want to offer as many choices as I can but it is seemly so anoying. I will send fewer request next time. Sorry again.

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Re: League of 6

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Don't be sorry. I've just offered you £27m of Turkish weapon all set to go ballistic this season with service from Walcott, Sigurdsson and Richarlison. You be licking your lips at the prospect of getting him.

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Re: League of 6

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Has anyone actually managed a trade yet? It always feels like one party loses out, unless you're swapping players to make a mutually beneficial change, like maybe swapping rotation risks so both managers get a handcuffed slot in their team.

I mean, taivt no disrespect but, it's not as if I'm gonna accept a trade of Moses for my Azpilicueta or Cech for my Allison is it?

It seems very hard to get a balanced trade that both sides would find acceptable, and impossible to do that for a single player.

The most balanced trade I might be able to offer someone would be my handcuffed Davies and Rose for one premium defender plus one dodgy one, but even then unless I was offered Robertson or Mendy I'd probably still feel like I was being robbed!

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Re: League of 6

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My trading condition is offering my better draft rank player swapping for a player with better fixtures. In most of leagues I joined, the trades mostly rejected because of unbalancing offers,it is hard to make an acceptable one.

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Re: League of 6

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taivt wrote: 06 Aug 2018, 15:24 Sorry for making so many requests. I just want to offer as many choices as I can but it is seemly so anoying. I will send fewer request next time. Sorry again.
No need to apologise taivt - just throw in Sanchez next time instead!

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Re: League of 6

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Welcome the first processed trade: Luiz - Otamendi.

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Re: League of 6

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We're all new to this Taivt, if you can secure a trade that puts you in a better position, go for it. My hope is that the rules will ramp up the pressure on the leaders in October/November to give something away to the strugglers, that's when we'll see interesting talks develop!

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Re: League of 6

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I think Mav3rick has the Man City Right Wing fairly well handcuffed there too!! Taca - it'll be interesting to see if your top by October and I'm still bottom if you trade me Salah lol

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Re: League of 6

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Haha I have thoughts on how I'd negotiate from both ends of the table, we'll have to wait and see what comes to pass 😉

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Re: League of 6

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What inside info does The Taivo seem to have about Otamendi - that is the question!!!

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Re: League of 6

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I just heard that he has less gametime this year.

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Re: League of 6

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I'm prepared to take the risk at the expense of sideshow Bob!

Nice doing business with you :wink:

By the way I hear on the grapevine that Sanchez may have less game time this year as well :mrgreen:

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Re: League of 6

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Yeah taivt, no offense to you at all, but you can stick all your trade offers for Agüero where the sun don't shine. :lol:

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Re: League of 6

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Tacalabala wrote: 06 Aug 2018, 17:19 My hope is that the rules will ramp up the pressure on the leaders in October/November to give something away to the strugglers, that's when we'll see interesting talks develop!

This is the part of it that worries me. If you're leading and you decide to do business with the team in 6th to help get them off the bottom, wouldn't you be taking a big risk by giving away some of your better players? I suppose you'll probably tell me "that's where the fun of it lies". But inadvertently sabotaging my own team doesn't sound like much fun at all. :lol:

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