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Hawkins doing well

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Fingers crossed!

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Sorry for the late update chaps. Fell asleep in front of the TV last night.

Pos Name <------ Players -----> Pts
1 blahblah (2) 5 (17) (9) (32) 17854
2 The bear (2) (4) 5 (32) (22) 16751
3 murf (2) (4) (6) (22) (32) 14783
4 polarbear (16) (6) (26) (1) (30) 13980
5 owenclass (4) (8) (6) (16) (32) 13588
6 Wilbert (2) 5 (17) (21) (22) 13369
7 toffeelover (32) (21) (16) (22) (2) 12072
8 kingcurtley (2) (6) (8) (17) (32) 11350
9 workie-ticket (1) (4) 7 (23) (30) 10402
10 Knulpuck (2) (4) (32) (13) (14) 10027
11 Gilchrist1983 (1) (2) (9) (22) (32) 9968
12 SamD (1) 5 (10) (17) (32) 9904
13 the-postman (2) (4) (16) (17) (26) 9442
14 Spencer4 (1) (6) (17) (19) (22) 8633
15 Kris_fiso (2) (1) (9) (21) (32) 8362
16 Brightwater (1) (4) (32) (12) (17) 6966
17 bluenosey (2) (4) (8) (23) (30) 6758
18 Rick Spangle (2) (1) (4) (32) (27) 6421
19 Darbyand (22) (1) (23) (2) (17) 6381
20 Shaggy365 (2) (1) (4) (27) (32) 5023
21 Mo Bot (2) (13) (1) (32) (17) 4008
22 Sport Billy (1) (2) (17) (22) (23) 3470
23 topspur (2) (1) (17) (18) (30) 2758
24 Surprised (1) (2) (13) (23) (32) 2126
25 nevblake (17) (10) (1) (23) (16) 1448
26 morganb (1) (10) (4) (31) (21) 1217

999 Maximum 5 7 (9) (15) (32) 32076

(1) Mark Selby -256 0 0 0 0 -256
(2) Ronnie O'Sullivan 343 21 0 0 0 364
(3) Ding Junhui 490 814 -180 0 0 1124
(4) Judd Trump 59 365 515 0 0 939
5 John Higgins 124 732 698 872 0 2426
(6) Barry Hawkins 151 76 1065 581 0 1873
7 Mark Williams 350 406 620 908 0 2284
(8) Shaun Murphy 36 0 0 0 0 36
(9) Kyren Wilson 388 482 698 500 0 2068
(10) Neil Robertson -150 0 0 0 0 -150
(11) Marco Fu -210 0 0 0 0 -210
(12) Stuart Bingham 10 0 0 0 0 10
(13) Luca Brecel -28 0 0 0 0 -28
(14) Anthony McGill 408 -107 0 0 0 301
(15) Ali Carter 376 984 242 0 0 1602
(16) Mark Allen 255 562 47 0 0 864
(17) Ryan Day 264 0 0 0 0 264
(18) Stephen Maguire 364 0 0 0 0 364
(19) Graeme Dott 268 0 0 0 0 268
(20) Joe Perry 908 163 0 0 0 1071
(21) Xiao Guodong -20 0 0 0 0 -20
(22) Ricky Walden 614 479 0 0 0 1093
(23) Jack Lisowski 610 -294 0 0 0 316
(24) Jimmy Robertson 170 0 0 0 0 170
(25) Robert Milkins 720 280 0 0 0 1000
(26) Jamie Jones 657 89 0 0 0 746
(27) Matthew Stevens 4 0 0 0 0 4
(28) Chris Wakelin 632 0 0 0 0 632
(29) Stuart Carrington 418 0 0 0 0 418
(30) Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 442 0 0 0 0 442
(31) Liam Highfield 150 0 0 0 0 150
(32) Lyu Haotian 735 667 0 0 0 1402

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So if Hawkins soundly wins the final then glory is mine....

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:lol:

Have I won, or does Higgins need to win Frames? This could be over well inside the 3rd Session the way he is playing...

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C'mon Mark !

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bluenosey wrote: 06 May 2018, 19:10 C'mon Mark !
Yep.

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Great game to pinch. Williams's touch is fantastic when he's on. All feel. Just drops the balls in, hardly slams anything. Perfect timing.

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Two 40-somethings in the final, quite remarkable, I guess comparable to seeing Federer and Nadal contesting Grand Slam finals again... but perhaps a poor reflection on the younger generation and their temperament for the long game.

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forestfan wrote: 06 May 2018, 19:55 Two 40-somethings in the final, quite remarkable, I guess comparable to seeing Federer and Nadal contesting Grand Slam finals again... but perhaps a poor reflection on the younger generation and their temperament for the long game.
The kids aren't coming through now like they used to. These guys in the final were all kids in the 80s when the world and his dog played snooker. All the youngsters now are Chinese and that's where the game is extremely popular.

The one thing that should start to go when you are over 40 is your eyesight. Reardon's eyesight went, John Spencer suffered from double vision and if it wasn't for the glasses, Dennis Taylor wouldn't have been successful. Marcus Fu is struggling with his vision and it wouldn't surprise me if one of the "class of 92" eventually has an eyesight issue. The long potting tends to go. That was the case with Steve Davis, who is still a fair old player when breakbuilding.

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bluenosey wrote: 06 May 2018, 20:47
forestfan wrote: 06 May 2018, 19:55 Two 40-somethings in the final, quite remarkable, I guess comparable to seeing Federer and Nadal contesting Grand Slam finals again... but perhaps a poor reflection on the younger generation and their temperament for the long game.
The kids aren't coming through now like they used to. These guys in the final were all kids in the 80s when the world and his dog played snooker. All the youngsters now are Chinese and that's where the game is extremely popular.

The one thing that should start to go when you are over 40 is your eyesight. Reardon's eyesight went, John Spencer suffered from double vision and if it wasn't for the glasses, Dennis Taylor wouldn't have been successful. Marcus Fu is struggling with his vision and it wouldn't surprise me if one of the "class of 92" eventually has an eyesight issue. The long potting tends to go. That was the case with Steve Davis, who is still a fair old player when breakbuilding.
Yeah, and Hendry similarly tailed off in his late 30s/early 40s and then quit as he was only motivated by winning. These two along with Ronnie, it’s remarkable they still have the potting ability they do.

I’m surprised the Chinese haven’t taken over to a greater extent, Ding is now in his 30s and has won plenty of titles but always flatters to deceive at the Crucible, and none of the others who have followed him have really made it into the true elite.

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bluenosey wrote: 06 May 2018, 20:47
forestfan wrote: 06 May 2018, 19:55 Two 40-somethings in the final, quite remarkable, I guess comparable to seeing Federer and Nadal contesting Grand Slam finals again... but perhaps a poor reflection on the younger generation and their temperament for the long game.
The kids aren't coming through now like they used to. These guys in the final were all kids in the 80s when the world and his dog played snooker. All the youngsters now are Chinese and that's where the game is extremely popular.

The one thing that should start to go when you are over 40 is your eyesight. Reardon's eyesight went, John Spencer suffered from double vision and if it wasn't for the glasses, Dennis Taylor wouldn't have been successful. Marcus Fu is struggling with his vision and it wouldn't surprise me if one of the "class of 92" eventually has an eyesight issue. The long potting tends to go. That was the case with Steve Davis, who is still a fair old player when breakbuilding.
Way back when there were "money" matches and then there was the Youth and Amateur set up, where players learned to win. Players (of a certain standard) can make a decent living by just potting and practicing break building, so they don't now how to battle and play matchplay; and this applies to most, if not all, of the Chinese players too.

Trump had his eyes lazered just under 12 months ago - but his failings are the point above and a decidedly fragile action, under pressure.

I would disagree about Davis: his problem was that he wasn't a heavy enough points scorer when the likes of Hendry and then ROS, Higgins, Williams, Stevens et al appeared on the scene - possibly due to him rarely, if ever, using side. He was pretty much an automaton when playing snooker and just played within his capability re shot-making....

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Yeah, the game moved on from Davis’s era due to the profile his generation gave it. The next generation had something extra. He was still in the top 16 into his 50s though I think, which was remarkable in itself.

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Yep (from wiki):

At the 2005 UK Championship, held in York, Davis reached his 100th major career final,[66] and made his first appearance in the UK final since 1990.[37] En route he beat defending champion Stephen Maguire 9–8, a win which included a 145 break; and then Stephen Hendry 9–6 in the semi-finals to reach the final, where he lost 6–10 against Ding Junhui.[67][68] Before the World Championships Davis brushed off suggestions of retirement,[69] and he reached the second round, where he lost to Murphy.[70] Davis's performances through the 2006/2007 season, including reaching the UK Championship quarter-finals and the Welsh Open semi-finals, ensured he was still a top 16 player at the age of 50.[71]
Steve Davis during a match against Ville Pasanen in 2008

He dropped out of the top sixteen a year later,


There was some seriously good stuff played yesterday, and as per above, most\all of the "kids" would either been blown away, or not won the last 3....

Higgins will be a lot happier with this 10-7, than 12 months ago when ahead?

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The quality has continued today. Some fantastic snooker played.

And here we go for the last time...

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This is getting nervy.

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Was on the verge of putting the final score into the spreadsheet to get the league table out before the final ball was potted.

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Jesus, Jimmy White 1994 style miss on that pink.

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Greetings all,

Here's the final FISO m/l.

Pos Name <------ Players -----> Pts
1 blahblah (2) (5) (17) (9) (32) 20286
2 The bear (2) (4) (5) (32) (22) 18575
3 Wilbert (2) (5) (17) (21) (22) 15801
4 murf (2) (4) (6) (22) (32) 14783
5 polarbear (16) (6) (26) (1) (30) 13980
6 owenclass (4) (8) (6) (16) (32) 13588
7 workie-ticket (1) (4) 7 (23) (30) 13378
8 SamD (1) (5) (10) (17) (32) 12336
9 toffeelover (32) (21) (16) (22) (2) 12072
10 kingcurtley (2) (6) (8) (17) (32) 11350
11 Knulpuck (2) (4) (32) (13) (14) 10027
12 Gilchrist1983 (1) (2) (9) (22) (32) 9968
13 the-postman (2) (4) (16) (17) (26) 9442
14 Spencer4 (1) (6) (17) (19) (22) 8633
15 Kris_fiso (2) (1) (9) (21) (32) 8362
16 Brightwater (1) (4) (32) (12) (17) 6966
17 bluenosey (2) (4) (8) (23) (30) 6758
18 Rick Spangle (2) (1) (4) (32) (27) 6421
19 Darbyand (22) (1) (23) (2) (17) 6381
20 Shaggy365 (2) (1) (4) (27) (32) 5023
21 Mo Bot (2) (13) (1) (32) (17) 4008
22 Sport Billy (1) (2) (17) (22) (23) 3470
23 topspur (2) (1) (17) (18) (30) 2758
24 Surprised (1) (2) (13) (23) (32) 2126
25 nevblake (17) (10) (1) (23) (16) 1448
26 morganb (1) (10) (4) (31) (21) 1217

999 Maximum 7 (5) (9) (15) (32) 39326

(1) Mark Selby -256 0 0 0 0 -256
(2) Ronnie O'Sullivan 343 21 0 0 0 364
(3) Ding Junhui 490 814 -180 0 0 1124
(4) Judd Trump 59 365 515 0 0 939
(5) John Higgins 124 732 698 872 608 3034
(6) Barry Hawkins 151 76 1065 581 0 1873
7 Mark Williams 350 406 620 908 992 3276
(8) Shaun Murphy 36 0 0 0 0 36
(9) Kyren Wilson 388 482 698 500 0 2068
(10) Neil Robertson -150 0 0 0 0 -150
(11) Marco Fu -210 0 0 0 0 -210
(12) Stuart Bingham 10 0 0 0 0 10
(13) Luca Brecel -28 0 0 0 0 -28
(14) Anthony McGill 408 -107 0 0 0 301
(15) Ali Carter 376 984 242 0 0 1602
(16) Mark Allen 255 562 47 0 0 864
(17) Ryan Day 264 0 0 0 0 264
(18) Stephen Maguire 364 0 0 0 0 364
(19) Graeme Dott 268 0 0 0 0 268
(20) Joe Perry 908 163 0 0 0 1071
(21) Xiao Guodong -20 0 0 0 0 -20
(22) Ricky Walden 614 479 0 0 0 1093
(23) Jack Lisowski 610 -294 0 0 0 316
(24) Jimmy Robertson 170 0 0 0 0 170
(25) Robert Milkins 720 280 0 0 0 1000
(26) Jamie Jones 657 89 0 0 0 746
(27) Matthew Stevens 4 0 0 0 0 4
(28) Chris Wakelin 632 0 0 0 0 632
(29) Stuart Carrington 418 0 0 0 0 418
(30) Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 442 0 0 0 0 442
(31) Liam Highfield 150 0 0 0 0 150
(32) Lyu Haotian 735 667 0 0 0 1402

Congratulations go to Mr blah, who came top, although whether you can count finishing 20th overall as doing well ...

Anyway, see you all next year and look out for the Fantasy Eurovision starting on Thursday. TTFN.

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What a superb final.

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Wonder if Blah is going to streak too ?

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Surprised wrote: 07 May 2018, 22:15 What a superb final.
Agreed. The standard was sky high. Compared to say, Ebdon Dott about ten years ago, that was a world away.

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I'm no fan of Higgins but massive respect for getting back into the match with 5 frames on the spin.

Well done blah, happy with my 5th place. :)

Thanks again Shaggy for running this comp. An integral part of my World Championship experience! :D

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Have to chalk that down to 'what could have been'. 4th.

Cheers for organiding and to everyone for playing. I watch / followed quite a bit of the tournament which I would never have done without this comp so thanks for that (seriously - I did enjoy the snooker!)

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Thanks to Shaggy for sorting this out, I'll be back next year trying to get at least one player past the second round :oops:

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Many thanks Shaggy, very enjoyable as always :D

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Top, top comp,as ever, Thanks....

And yep 20th isn't too clever.....
bluenosey wrote: 08 May 2018, 13:57 Wonder if Blah is going to streak too ?
Well, I have had a few showers :lol:

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Thanks for running this again Shaggy

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blahblah wrote: 06 May 2018, 21:31 .....possibly due to him rarely, if ever, using side. He was pretty much an automaton when playing snooker and just played within his capability re shot-making....
Ironically Williams using sightright and minimising his use of side wins him a world championship.

Congrats blah, thanks for running shaggy.

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Brightwater wrote: 19 Apr 2018, 12:47 Mark Selby v Joe Perry

Ronnie O’Sullivan v Stephen Maguire

Ding Junghui v Xiao Goudong

Judd Trump v Chris Wakelin

John Higgins v Thepchaiya Un-Nooh

Barry Hawkins v Stuart Carrington

Mark Williams v Jimmy Robertson

Shaun Murphy v Jamie Jones

Kyren Wilson v Matthew Stevens

Neil Robertson v Robert Milkins

Marco Fu v Lyu Haotian

Stuart Bingham v Jack Lisowski

Luca Brecel v Ricky Walden

Anthony McGill v Ryan Day

Ali Carter v Graeme Dott

Mark Allen v Liam Highfield
I love Ronnie O’Sullivan. he is the best player. I just want to know when will be FANTASY SNOOKER 2019 start ???

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