It amazes me how in the light of massive evidence against an organisation in which he was a KEY official for years, he seems to be escaping all the worst of the criticism.
The gall he shows in not, for example, apologising to the German journalist, Hajo Seppelt, who he implicitly insulted for revealing some truths is by itself IMO sufficient to bar him from office. Although he was good guy at heart, the world in which he works seems to have converted a reasonable politician into a self serving high official.
Is Sebastian Coe a Fool or Regularly Economical with the Truth?
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as a Tory MP and chair of LOCOG he was of course never a self-serving high official
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As Martin Samuel of the Daily Mail puts it.
“The irony is that Lord Coe has lived his life, post-competition, in the corridors of the powerful. Governments, the Olympic movement, FIFA, the IAAF, Coe breaks bread with them all.
He is regarded as a man who gets jobs done, a politician, a mover and shaker. And yet what did he know about arguably the greatest sporting scandal of the modern age? Nothing.”
Sounds very Sepp Blatterish.
“The irony is that Lord Coe has lived his life, post-competition, in the corridors of the powerful. Governments, the Olympic movement, FIFA, the IAAF, Coe breaks bread with them all.
He is regarded as a man who gets jobs done, a politician, a mover and shaker. And yet what did he know about arguably the greatest sporting scandal of the modern age? Nothing.”
Sounds very Sepp Blatterish.
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Re: Is Sebastian Coe a Fool or Regularly Economical with the Truth?
at it...
and now tennis.
all at it
and now tennis.
all at it
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He's very much the Platini of the athletics world. Because he was so good when taking part everyone has cut him a monumental amount of slack when it comes to his sports administration and management career. Platini was obviously as corrupt and nasty as anyone including Blatter but somehow the 'Teflon' man always avoided the worst. He's been found out for possibly one of his many sins. Seb Coe seems to be a cut of the same cloth.foxinthebox2001 wrote:As Martin Samuel of the Daily Mail puts it.
“The irony is that Lord Coe has lived his life, post-competition, in the corridors of the powerful. Governments, the Olympic movement, FIFA, the IAAF, Coe breaks bread with them all.
He is regarded as a man who gets jobs done, a politician, a mover and shaker. And yet what did he know about arguably the greatest sporting scandal of the modern age? Nothing.”
Sounds very Sepp Blatterish.
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Well maybe you have to be at least a bit corrupt and nasty to get to the top of an organisation like this, and stay there... sports administration is just like politics, if not worse. To get anywhere I suspect you probably have to join in the culture or at least turn a blind eye to it.
Of course there's degrees of involvement, and degrees of corruptness in terms of different organisations, but nobody's whiter than white. FIFA appears to be/have been rotten to the core, full of people in it for their own personal gain. The IAAF and cycling were perhaps more concerned with protecting their sport's reputation, covering up doping's no better but it's more a self-preservation thing than anything I guess. We could all face "whistleblowing" scenarios that could threaten our own careers if we reported something a colleague or manager was doing, would we all do the right thing? Jacques Rogge got a lot of credit for "cleaning up" the IOC but it's still surely unrealistic to believe nothing dodgy goes on there these days. You can try and tackle the culture so it's less endemic in a particular organisation, but power will always corrupt people.
Of course there's degrees of involvement, and degrees of corruptness in terms of different organisations, but nobody's whiter than white. FIFA appears to be/have been rotten to the core, full of people in it for their own personal gain. The IAAF and cycling were perhaps more concerned with protecting their sport's reputation, covering up doping's no better but it's more a self-preservation thing than anything I guess. We could all face "whistleblowing" scenarios that could threaten our own careers if we reported something a colleague or manager was doing, would we all do the right thing? Jacques Rogge got a lot of credit for "cleaning up" the IOC but it's still surely unrealistic to believe nothing dodgy goes on there these days. You can try and tackle the culture so it's less endemic in a particular organisation, but power will always corrupt people.
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Some good points Forest and i tend to agree that realistically to advance in such a multi-national conglomerate of an organisation it would be nigh on impossible to not compromise and turn a blind eye at least some of the time. I suppose it's very difficult to judge where a line would be crossed, Blatter and Platini clearly have crossed wherever that line would be drawn but perhaps Seb is still just on the right side of it.
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I know several people that know him, either through competition or university, but no-one that likes him.
Just about white enough to give any investigation a veneer of respectability, but not quite white enough to do a proper job. Perfect front man for the job in many ways. Give the appearance of a good clean up without doing too much digging.
Just about white enough to give any investigation a veneer of respectability, but not quite white enough to do a proper job. Perfect front man for the job in many ways. Give the appearance of a good clean up without doing too much digging.
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