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Re: RE: Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Darbyand » 03 Aug 2016, 12:30

forestfan wrote:
thebillfella wrote:
Darbyand wrote:There's a lot of faith in Pep Guardiola out there.
You may see a lot of faith in Paul Pogba (leading to an edit from me at least) if that deal ever goes through...
Well, it's a "three-way coin flip" for me... United have improved most in the transfer market, but had the most ground to make up. City had perhaps the strongest existing squad, they should have the man to make it the sum of its parts as a team now, but need a couple more major signings to freshen things up.
I can't help think this is a punditry cliche which has become accepted wisdom when the facts don't really back it up. They finished level on points with a poor United squad managed by LvG in full retreat from his senses. After winning their first 5 games they took 51 points from their next 33 games with a load of gutless performances along the way and an ageing squad (more of this to follow) seemingly picking and choosing their games.

That squad, to my eyes looks like a classic case of a successful team from 4/5 years ago allowed to grow old together with poor replacements. Main weaknesses as follows:
Keeper who's been exposed as poor to his left - watch how many shots are placed there against him this season
All four full backs are now over 30
Kompany is still the central defensive lynchpin despite the fact he seems physically unable to play more than 20 games a season
Generally loads of players who are either just past their peak or in some cases well past it - just look at how many other players in the attachment are 30+ or close to it..all the aforementioned defenders, Fernandinho, Silva, Toure, Navas. You could make a case to include Nasri and Aguero in there especially with the latter's injury issues.

To my mind a perfect squad would be roughly a third 18-23 a third 23-28 and a third experienced pros. City seem very keen to bolster the first category with the likes of Sane, Gabriel Jesus and Stones which is good future planning but I think they're a bit short in the middle category. Only really the superb de Bruyne and Gundogan (if he can stay fit) are there. Maybe Mangala if he comes good.

So in summary, a lot of the City faith seems to be riding on Guardiola. He's obviously a great manager of great teams...... but in a new country when his team are just one in a pack rather than the standout team. Time will tell.
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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Moist von Lipwig » 03 Aug 2016, 12:36

Man City
Man United
Chelsea
Liverpool
Arsenal
Tottenham
Everton
Leicester
West Ham
Southampton
Stoke
Crystal Palace
Swansea
Middlesbrough
Watford
Sunderland
Bournemouth
Burnley
West Brom
Hull

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Vid » 03 Aug 2016, 21:48

Now 23 entries, Watford moving above Burnley into 18th is the only change in the consensus order

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   Pos   Team           total
    1    Man C           38
    2    Man U           59
    3    Arsenal         75
    4    Chelsea         78
    5    Tottenham       119
    6    Liverpool       122
    7    Everton         174
    8    West Ham        190
    9    Leicester       212
   10    Southampton     232
   11    Stoke           249
   12    Crystal Palac   313
   13    West Brom       322
   14    Sunderland      340
   15    Swansea         346
   16    Middlesbrough   352
   17    Bournemouth     376
   18    Watford         383
   19    Burnley         392
   20    Hull            458

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   pos     prev               entrant               score    correct  tie-break
    1       999              Consensus                0         20       999
    2       18                trampie                 6         15        18
    3       20               Dr Bunker                6         15        20
    4       14               forestfan                14        8         14
    5       15           TheBigLewandowski            16        7         15
    6        3                Maldini                 18        10        3
    7       16              thebillfella              18        9         16
    8        6                Backlash                20        11        6
    9        8                Darbyand                20        4         8
   10        4                  Vid                   22        7         4
   11       23            Moist von Lipwig            24        8         23
   12        9                 Mo Bot                 24        7         9
   13       11               bulgarche                24        7         11
   14        1              Spinynorman               24        5         1
   15        7                 Latic                  30        6         7
   16       22                juckster                30        3         22
   17       21               Ralfbergs                34        6         21
   18        5                Subsonic                34        4         5
   19        2                 robot                  36        7         2
   20       10               jeffersdn                36        6         10
   21       17                 Doogal                 38        3         17
   22       19             the triple c's             42        3         19
   23       13                morganb                 44        3         13
   24       12                 wahine                 44        2         12

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Vid » 06 Aug 2016, 16:58

any more? 1 week to go!

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by GregsEggs » 07 Aug 2016, 13:16

Man City
Man united
Spurs
Arsenal
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Liverpool
Chelsea
Leicester
West Ham
Stoke
Southampton
Everton
Watford
Burnley
Bournemouth
Crystal Palace
Sunderland
Swansea
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
West Brom
Middlesbrough
Hull

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Richt » 07 Aug 2016, 14:03

Man City 
Man Utd 
Chelsea 
Arsenal 
Tottenham 
Everton 
Liverpool 
West Ham 
Southampton 
Leicester 
Stoke 
West Brom 
Swansea 
Crystal Palace
Watford 
Middlesbrough 
Burnley 
Bournemouth 
Sunderland 
Hull

thank you for organising.

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Re: RE: Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by thebillfella » 07 Aug 2016, 17:38

thebillfella wrote:Manchester City
Manchester United
Chelsea
Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur
Liverpool
Leicester City
West Ham United
Everton
Southampton
Stoke City
Swansea City
Crystal Palace
West Bromwich Albion
Watford
Sunderland
Middlesbrough
Bournemouth
Burnley
Hull
Looks like Pogba is on his way so making the tweak as originally caveated!

Manchester United
Manchester City
Chelsea
Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur
Liverpool
Leicester City
West Ham United
Everton
Southampton
Stoke City
Crystal Palace
Swansea City
Middlesbrough
West Bromwich Albion
Sunderland
Watford
Bournemouth
Burnley
Hull

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Ard Viking » 07 Aug 2016, 21:14

OK I'm in for a chuckle :)

Man City
Liverpool
Man United
Chelsea
Tottenham
Arsenal
Stoke
West Ham
Leicester
Everton
Southampton
Bournemouth
Swansea
Crystal Palace
Watford
Middlesbrough
West Brom
Sunderland
Burnley
Hull

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Rookster » 07 Aug 2016, 23:58

Man City
Man United
Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool
Tottenham
Leicester
West Ham
Everton
Southampton
Stoke
Crystal Palace
Sunderland
Swansea
Bournemouth
West Brom
Burnley
Middlesbrough
Watford
Hull

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Sport Billy » 08 Aug 2016, 21:12

Man Utd
Chelsea
Man City
Arsenal
Liverpool
Tottenham
Everton
Stoke
West Ham
Leicester
Southampton
Bournemouth
Crystal Palace
Sunderland
Watford
Middlesbrough
West Brom
Swansea
Burnley
Hull

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Vid » 08 Aug 2016, 22:24

will pick up most resent entries after work tomorrow

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by topspur » 08 Aug 2016, 22:33

Man United
Man City 
Tottenham
Chelsea 
Arsenal 
Leicester
Everton 
Liverpool 
West Ham 
Southampton 
Stoke 
West Brom 
Crystal Palace
Bournemouth
Middlesbrough 
Burnley 
Sunderland 
Hull
Watford
Swansea 

Amended !

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Vid » 11 Aug 2016, 03:34

3am is not the time to be doing this! Will find who I've misplaced later for an update.

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by AkNotSpur » 11 Aug 2016, 05:33

Arsenal
Chelsea
Man City
Man United
Tottenham
Liverpool
Leicester
Everton
Southampton
West Ham
Stoke
Crystal Palace
Swansea
West Brom
Middlesbrough
Bournemouth
Watford
Sunderland
Burnley
Hull

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by flyingkillercob » 11 Aug 2016, 09:31

Man City
Man United
Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool
Tottenham
Leicester
West Ham
Everton
Southampton
Stoke
Crystal Palace
Swansea
Bournemouth
Sunderland
West Brom
Watford
Middlesbrough
Burnley
Hull

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by nigel1305 » 11 Aug 2016, 10:31

Man City
Man Utd
Arsenal
Tottenham
Liverpool
Chelsea
West Ham
Southampton
Everton
Leicester
Stoke
Crystal Palace
West Brom
Swansea
Sunderland
Bournemouth
Middlesbrough
Watford
Burnley
Hull

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Darbyand » 11 Aug 2016, 10:47

Edited my entry on page one.

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Vid » 12 Aug 2016, 10:34

caught up!

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   Pos   Team           total
    1    Man C           50
    2    Man U           73
    3    Chelsea         108
    4    Arsenal         111
    5    Tottenham       157
    6    Liverpool       163
    7    Everton         242
    8    West Ham        255
    9    Leicester       275
   10    Southampton     312
   11    Stoke           328
   12    Crystal Palac   410
   13    West Brom       445
   14    Swansea         472
   15    Sunderland      473
   16    Middlesbrough   484
   17    Bournemouth     487
   18    Watford         516
   19    Burnley         533
   20    Hull            616

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   pos     prev               entrant               score    correct  tie-break
    1       999              Consensus                0         20       999
   22       19                juckster                6         14        19
   21       17               Dr Bunker                10        11        17
    4       14                 Doogal                 12        9         14
    5       15                trampie                 14        10        15
   31       30               nigel1305                14        10        30
   23       13           TheBigLewandowski            14        9         13
   30       29            flyingkillercob             16        11        29
   27       26                Rookster                18        10        26
   10        4                Subsonic                18        9         4
   25       24              thebillfella              18        9         24
   16       22               GregsEggs                20        9         22
    9        8               jeffersdn                20        8         8
    8        6                 Latic                  22        9         6
    6        3                  Vid                   22        8         3
   32       31                darbyand                22        5         31
   19        2                Maldini                 26        7         2
   20       10                 wahine                 26        5         10
   14        1              Spinynorman               28        3         1
   15        7                 Mo Bot                 30        8         7
   28       27              Sport Billy               30        5         27
   17       21                 robot                  32        3         21
   29       28                topspur                 32        3         28
   26       25               Ard Viking               34        7         25
    3       20            Moist von Lipwig            36        5         20
    7       16             the triple c's             36        4         16
   18        5                Backlash                36        3         5
   12        9               bulgarche                38        7         9
   13       11                morganb                 42        3         11
    2       18               Ralfbergs                42        3         18
   11       23                 Richt                  44        6         23
   24       12               forestfan                48        3         12
okay, could have made the left hand column 1-32, not worth redoing it

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Vid » 12 Aug 2016, 21:03

last bump this year, you have until first kick off to enter/ edit

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Dennisthemenace » 12 Aug 2016, 21:29

Man City
Man Utd
Leicester
Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool
Tottenham
Everton
West Ham
Crystal Palace
Stoke
Southampton
Watford
Middlesbrough
Sunderland
Swansea
West Brom
Bournemouth
Burnley
Hull

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by blahblah » 12 Aug 2016, 22:02

Liverpool
Arsenal
Everton
Man City
Tottenham
West Ham
Man Utd
Chelsea
Southampton
Stoke
Crystal Palace
Leicester
Watford
Bournemouth
Burnley
West Brom
Middlesbrough
Sunderland
Swansea
Hull

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by pulpfiction » 12 Aug 2016, 22:05

Man City
Man Utd
Arsenal
Chelsea
Liverpool
Tottenham
Leicester
West Ham
Everton
Southampton
Stoke
Crystal Palace
Swansea
Sunderland
Watford
Bournemouth
Burnley
Hull
Middlesbrough
West Brom

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Spencer4 » 13 Aug 2016, 07:40

Man City
Man Utd
Liverpool
Chelsea
Tottenham
Arsenal
Everton
Southampton
Leicester
Stoke
West Ham
Swansea
West Brom
Watford
Bournemouth
Burnley
Crystal Palace
Sunderland
Middlesbrough
Hull

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by the pom » 13 Aug 2016, 08:01

Man City
Chelsea
Man Utd
Tottenham
Liverpool
Arsenal
Stoke
Leicester
West Ham
Everton
Southampton
Crystal Palace
Watford
Sunderland
Swansea
Middlesbrough
Bournemouth
West Brom
Burnley
Hull

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Malrom » 13 Aug 2016, 08:07

Man City
Arsenal
Chelsea
Liverpool
Man Utd
Tottenham
West Ham
Everton
Southampton
Leicester
Stoke
Bournemouth
Burnley
Crystal Palace
Sunderland
Middlesbrough
West Brom
Watford
Swansea
Hull

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by bluenosey » 13 Aug 2016, 10:59

Man City
Tottenham
Man Utd
Liverpool
Arsenal
Chelsea
Leicester
West Ham
Everton
Stoke
Bournemouth
Southampton
Crystal Palace
Middlesbrough
Sunderland
West Brom
Burnley
Swansea
Watford
Hull

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First and last?

Post by SamD » 13 Aug 2016, 12:28

Man Utd
Man City
Chelsea
Arsenal
Tottenham
Liverpool
Leicester
West Ham
Everton
Southampton
Stoke
Bournemouth
Crystal Palace
Sunderland
Middlesbrough
Watford
West Brom
Swansea
Burnley
Hull

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Vid » 19 Aug 2016, 13:17

We go with 39 entrants this season, 2 ties in the consensus table so gone with alphabetical for the places

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   Pos   Team           total
    1    Man C           62
    2    Man U           98
    3    Chelsea         142
    4    Arsenal         144
    5    Liverpool       197
    6    Tottenham       197
    7    Everton         305
    8    West Ham        321
    9    Leicester       338
   10    Southampton     393
   11    Stoke           409
   12    Crystal Palac   512
   13    West Brom       579
   14    Sunderland      596
   15    Bournemouth     602
   16    Swansea         602
   17    Middlesbrough   614
   18    Watford         637
   19    Burnley         668
   20    Hull            774
which would give

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   pos     prev               entrant               score    correct  tie-break
    1       999              Consensus                0         20       999
    2       19                juckster                10        11        19
    3       13           TheBigLewandowski            12        11        13
    4       26                Rookster                14        12        26
    5       29            flyingkillercob             14        12        29
    6       17               Dr Bunker                14        9         17
    7       30               nigel1305                16        10        30
    8        4                Subsonic                18        10        4
    9       31                darbyand                18        6         31
   10       14                 Doogal                 20        7         14
   11        7                 Mo Bot                 22        10        7
   12       15                trampie                 22        8         15
   13       39                  SamD                  22        8         39
   14        3                  Vid                   22        7         3
   15       22               GregsEggs                24        9         22
   16        2                Maldini                 24        7         2
   17        6                 Latic                  24        7         6
   18       27              Sport Billy               24        7         27
   19       34              pulpfiction               26        9         34
   20       24              thebillfella              26        7         24
   21        8               jeffersdn                26        5         8
   22        5                Backlash                28        7         5
   23       10                 wahine                 28        6         10
   24       36                the pom                 30        6         36
   25       37                 malrom                 30        6         37
   26       32            Dennisthemenace             32        6         32
   27       28                topspur                 32        3         28
   28        1              Spinynorman               32        2         1
   29       35                Spencer4                34        7         35
   30       20            Moist von Lipwig            34        5         20
   31       38               bluenosey                34        3         38
   32        9               bulgarche                36        7         9
   33       25               Ard Viking               36        5         25
   34       21                 robot                  36        2         21
   35       16             the triple c's             38        4         16
   36       23                 Richt                  40        7         23
   37       18               Ralfbergs                42        3         18
   38       12               forestfan                44        2         12
   39       11                morganb                 46        4         11
   40       33                blahblah                52        2         33

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Vid » 19 Aug 2016, 13:23

Table after Week 1

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   pos     prev               entrant               score    correct  tie-break
    1       10                 wahine                 84        4         10
    2       35                Spencer4                88        0         35
    3       22               GregsEggs                90        5         22
    4       15                trampie                 92        5         15
    5       24              thebillfella              92        2         24
    6       16             the triple c's             92        0         16
    7       14                 Doogal                 94        4         14
    8       12               forestfan                96        3         12
    9       31                darbyand                96        2         31
   10        6                 Latic                  96        1         6
   11        8               jeffersdn                96        0         8
   12       13           TheBigLewandowski            98        3         13
   13       17               Dr Bunker                98        3         17
   14       21                 robot                  98        3         21
   15       19                juckster               100        3         19
   16       32            Dennisthemenace            100        3         32
   17       999              Consensus               100        3        999
   18       29            flyingkillercob            102        3         29
   19        9               bulgarche               102        1         9
   20       11                morganb                102        1         11
   21       25               Ard Viking              102        1         25
   22       18               Ralfbergs               104        2         18
   23       34              pulpfiction              104        2         34
   24        4                Subsonic               104        1         4
   25        7                 Mo Bot                104        1         7
   26       27              Sport Billy              104        1         27
   27       30               nigel1305               104        1         30
   28       36                the pom                104        1         36
   29       39                  SamD                 106        4         39
   30       26                Rookster               106        3         26
   31       28                topspur                106        3         28
   32        2                Maldini                106        2         2
   33       20            Moist von Lipwig           106        1         20
   34        3                  Vid                  106        0         3
   35        1              Spinynorman              108        1         1
   36       37                 malrom                114        3         37
   37       23                 Richt                 116        2         23
   38       38               bluenosey               116        0         38
   39       33                blahblah               118        1         33
   40        5                Backlash               120        0         5

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Re: Final Table Prediction Competition 2016/17

Post by Vid » 21 Aug 2016, 18:33

after Week 2

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   pos     prev               entrant               score    correct  tie-break
    1        5              thebillfella              86        2         24
    2        2                Spencer4                90        6         35
    3       10                 Latic                  92        4         6
    4        6             the triple c's             92        1         16
    5        1                 wahine                 94        0         10
    6       11               jeffersdn                96        2         8
    7       19               bulgarche                98        2         9
    8        7                 Doogal                 98        2         14
    9        3               GregsEggs                98        2         22
   10       20                morganb                100        0         11
   11       16            Dennisthemenace            102        4         32
   12       34                  Vid                  102        2         3
   13       13               Dr Bunker               102        1         17
   14       14                 robot                 102        1         21
   15       31                topspur                102        1         28
   16        4                trampie                102        0         15
   17       32                Maldini                104        3         2
   18       12           TheBigLewandowski           104        3         13
   19       25                 Mo Bot                104        2         7
   20       15                juckster               104        1         19
   21       17               Consensus               106        2        999
   22       21               Ard Viking              108        3         25
   23       23              pulpfiction              108        3         34
   24       35              Spinynorman              108        0         1
   25        9                darbyand               108        0         31
   26       33            Moist von Lipwig           110        2         20
   27       18            flyingkillercob            110        2         29
   28       27               nigel1305               110        2         30
   29        8               forestfan               110        1         12
   30       22               Ralfbergs               110        1         18
   31       40                Backlash               110        0         5
   32       30                Rookster               112        2         26
   33       28                the pom                112        1         36
   34       24                Subsonic               112        0         4
   35       37                 Richt                 114        2         23
   36       36                 malrom                114        1         37
   37       26              Sport Billy              114        0         27
   38       29                  SamD                 116        0         39
   39       38               bluenosey               118        1         38
   40       39                blahblah               122        1         33

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