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forestfan wrote: 01 Sep 2019, 18:28
buu1333 wrote: 01 Sep 2019, 18:23 Nothing wrong with the way we playing now. Just so many errors
In other words “it’s all fine, apart from the fact we’re shit”? :wink:
Lol yes, we're still in the rebuilding since sir alex Ferguson left. Or from the previous manager which ever way you look at it

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If we weren't creating any chances I'd be worried. We are creating chances (xG right up there with Liverpool despite us being "shit"), just not hitting the target much / not clinical enough!

Most of those chances are being made through individual skill rather than a killer Beckham-esque pass. So yes, the stats back up my opinion that we are playing well in spells (and "controlling games / bossing midfields" - just not for 90 minutes) while lacking creativity and not taking our chances. Those two penalties go in and we have a completely different perception IMO.

Writing off after 4 games is lunacy / FIFA mentality. This isn't a quick fix - it took Liverpool 30 years, City 130 years (and £1bn!!!) and Arsenal still haven't fixed their problems after 15 years. But I think we are closer to fixing than Arsenal or Chelsea - it will probably take 2 seasons at least to get back to challenging for the title.
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Oh ok I understand , yh that a great thing compare to recent previous managers.And it would be even better with better creativity which we still need. I was really disappointed we didn't get felix or Erickson. But dispite all this we can still come short on attacks and get counter attack against us from stupid errors imo

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It's almost as if Gary Neville is reading my posts . Maybe I should apply for the Director of Football role?!

Gary Neville: "I think when you have a team that’s young like this Manchester United team is, it’s got a lot of players who are developing and trying to prove themselves. I think they’re going to get a lot of results like this where they do alright in the game. I actually though it was okay the performance (against Southampton), but they just don’t have that clinical element to see it off, to be able to sort of win the game. There is an element of frustration at the moment from Manchester United fans because obviously where the club have been, there’s still that recent history of big success under Sir Alex Ferguson, but there’s been six or seven years now and I think there’s an element of frustration building, real frustration, that they’re not on the right track. I think that they are on the right track in my opinion in terms of what they’re doing. Because the first thing that Manchester United have to do, you have to have a group of people in that changing room - it’s so important - who want to be there. Forget how talented they are...Sir Alex Ferguson came down from Aberdeen in ’86 and he got rid of some of the most talented players in the club to change the culture. He was given a long time, he was given two, three, four years. You think of Norman Whiteside that was let go, Paul McGrath was let go. They were some of the most talented players that were in the squad, but he culturally wanted to try and change what was happening. And I think Ole Gunnar Solskjaer in what he’s doing is trying to play the long game. To play the long game he’s going to need the support from up above and he’s going to need really strong leadership over the next two or three seasons to be able to have those four or five transfer windows that he needs. Not just to actually get people in the dressing room who are all facing in the same direction, but to get the quality that’s needed. You need the quality to go with the sort of alignment, if you like...And what I think to be fair Jurgen Klopp and Pep Guardiola have done at Liverpool and Manchester City is it took them two or three years. Well, it took Pep 12 months, two or three transfer windows because I think he had a better squad. It’s taken Klopp two, three, four years to affect the culture fully and get a team fully in what he would think is his style, his culture and what he wants to do. And that does just take some time, and I think Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is working more with a squad that Jurgen Klopp picked up [quality-wise] than the one Pep Guardiola picked up...So from that point of view I think it’s going to be a little bit of a long game, and it is going to be frustrating, and there are going to be results like Southampton and Crystal Palace along the way, but I think when you watch the team a lot of the principles are correct, they seem to be playing the right way...You see Daniel James score that goal, the way in which they’re trying to play, the style of it, it’s right. So the bones are there, but there is a long way to go and it’s going to be bumpy."

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It's ed fault were in the mess it the first place ,Not having a clue with no sporting director unlike Man city who have had a good one since 2012 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45344917. We have gone down while they have get better during the years

Hope I am wrong but people say two or three years before we challenge for league but I think it's 2 or 3 years before we get back in Cl. I think it will be very slow and hope we keep sol if we don't make CL

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City and Liverpool are much further ahead that everyone else. Spurs are just about holding onto 3rd best but not sure it's a totally happy camp at the moment so can't see them getting any better. After that I think we are in a slightly better position now than Chelsea or Arsenal so 4th is certainly attainable this season never mind 2 or 3 years IMO. A long way to go but this is the first time since Fergie that I have felt the direction of travel is in the right direction. #patience

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thebillfella wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 12:52City and Liverpool are much further ahead that everyone else. Spurs are just about holding onto 3rd best but not sure it's a totally happy camp at the moment so can't see them getting any better. After that I think we are in a slightly better position now than Chelsea or Arsenal so 4th is certainly attainable this season never mind 2 or 3 years IMO. A long way to go but this is the first time since Fergie that I have felt the direction of travel is in the right direction. #patience
I'm not sure I feel we're in a better position than Arsenal, nor Chelski (I'd say we're about in the same position as them), but I do agree with the DoT and #patience. I think this season will be rollercoasterish with some great performances and some awful ones. Right now, though, I'd settle for a 90 minute performance...

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Another weekend of fixtures and I have to say Bob that Chelsea is closer to us in terms of direction of travel and transitional improvement than Arsenal right now IMO. Arsenal still has greater frailties at the back than Utd - there is an extra reliance on Aubameyang and Lacazette to get Arsenal out of trouble and they don't seem to have a plan B (still!) under Emery.

At least Utd and Chelsea have the ability to vary their play and both seem to be giving youth an opportunity (Mount and McTominay are flourishing) which should be applauded IMO. Still all need improvements in midfield. I can see the 2 of us fighting for 4th place with Arsenal battling for 6th - who comes out on top may come down to key player injuries and how successful/ over-committed they both end up being in Europe.

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New contract for ddg

https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/d ... ter-united

Slightly surprised he didn't fancy a new challenge/guaranteed CL.... probably got a huge payrise.

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Ole Gunner slow start.

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I think we all think the same ?
thebillfella wrote: 15 Sep 2019, 23:00 Another weekend of fixtures and I have to say Bob that Chelsea is closer to us in terms of direction of travel and transitional improvement than Arsenal right now IMO. Arsenal still has greater frailties at the back than Utd - there is an extra reliance on Aubameyang and Lacazette to get Arsenal out of trouble and they don't seem to have a plan B (still!) under Emery.

At least Utd and Chelsea have the ability to vary their play and both seem to be giving youth an opportunity (Mount and McTominay are flourishing) which should be applauded IMO. Still all need improvements in midfield. I can see the 2 of us fighting for 4th place with Arsenal battling for 6th - who comes out on top may come down to key player injuries and how successful/ over-committed they both end up being in Europe.
dot. I think we all think the same ?

bill ,defensive wins titles attack wins games. Arsenal have always had a strong attack that can wins games, but have bad defence so they never challenge for title. Should emery have times to change that? I think we are behind arsenal , Chelsea I am not sure , I don't know

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Kind of funny now that even our own fans are taking part in the banter against Manchester United. At the moment we are playing like Leeds but even worst.

Arsenal next, I guess we have to hope for a Kolašinac or luiz mistake and then even after that who ever takes the shot has a bit of composure In the shot. But saying that arsenal style usually suits us.

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Despite our more attacking football we have scored only 17 goals in past 19 games since the PSG win only scoring more then once 3 times.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/wh ... -solskjaer

I think that was before yesterday game

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Beat Arse at the weekend and you're above them 😉

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blahblah wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 10:39 Beat Arse at the weekend and you're above them 😉
:D positive thinking and if we lose? its more of a must win for us or at least don't lose

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Hmm, 6 points behind Arse does sound a bit pants :oops:

On the plus side you did beat Leicester :D

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blahblah wrote: 26 Sep 2019, 10:50 On the plus side you did beat Leicester :D
The Europa League six-pointer? :wink:

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Pochettino claims his team are united... has he had the call from Red Ed then? :wink:

Seriously though, would be interesting to see what would happen if he did become available mid-season, with Real and Barca jobs also likely to hit the market before too long. If United got him in during the campaign it would give him a chance to get his feet under the table with little immediate pressure, as well as potentially work on a summer move for Kane.

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Poch loathes Barca and is probably (well hopefully) more into white than Fascism re Madrid.

My conspiracy theory side has me believing that he don't give a flying for Spuds this season and could even be trying to get sacked so he gets a signing on fee.

If he goes to OT I'll walk there....

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Is Martial likely to be playing any time soon?

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After the international break according to the pre-Arsenal press conference.

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Darbyand wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 21:56 After the international break according to the pre-Arsenal press conference.
That's the same as a month ago. Although it's a different international break.

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blahblah wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 20:43 Is Martial likely to be playing any time soon?
If he's anything like the rest of them, "playing" might be a little kind. "Turning up and collecting wages" might be a more accurate description to apply...

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Bob Newhart wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 22:00
blahblah wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 20:43 Is Martial likely to be playing any time soon?
If he's anything like the rest of them, "playing" might be a little kind. "Turning up and collecting wages" might be a more accurate description to apply...
Good point. What about wearing just kit and on the pitch when the ref blows the whistle to start?

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blahblah wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 22:02
Bob Newhart wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 22:00
blahblah wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 20:43 Is Martial likely to be playing any time soon?
If he's anything like the rest of them, "playing" might be a little kind. "Turning up and collecting wages" might be a more accurate description to apply...
Good point. What about wearing just kit and on the pitch when the ref blows the whistle to start?
I could go with that. Mind you, Martial is so fragile that even that degree of exertion could see him out for a month.

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Bob Newhart wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 22:03
blahblah wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 22:02
Bob Newhart wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 22:00
blahblah wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 20:43 Is Martial likely to be playing any time soon?
If he's anything like the rest of them, "playing" might be a little kind. "Turning up and collecting wages" might be a more accurate description to apply...
Good point. What about wearing just kit and on the pitch when the ref blows the whistle to start?
I could go with that. Mind you, Martial is so fragile that even that degree of exertion could see him out for a month.
I know where you're coming from. But he was scoring well enough for FPL for me...

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Why the reported interest in Longstaff of Newcastle? Can't say he's ever caught my eye. Is the super scout who recommended Fred at it again :shock:

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7lb claimer wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 23:48 Why the reported interest in Longstaff of Newcastle? Can't say he's ever caught my eye. Is the super scout who recommended Fred at it again :shock:
LongSTUFF.

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I was thinking more Sean of the dead average. he's an Englishman playing in the Premier league who hasn't been called up at any level. That's almost shameful. :(

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