ANYONE REMEMBER THE 40's and 50's ?

[mikeg13]

Back to the 40's and 50's. How about BRITTON CULLIS and MERCER ? Plus LAWTON and Stan of course.

One of my treasured possessions is Afc 1950 cup team photo all signed, think brother got it as I was only 3 at the time.
Game has changed so much since first started going (age 4 same as my son), but one thing never changed joy get from watching it.

[035robroy]

Following Mike's reply I youtubed the Movietone newsreel to get a bit of feel for the early 50's. Had just gone to serve HIS Majesty in furrin parts where the pictures were not available.
There was Joe Mercer, the man for all seasons and lots of different clubs being shouldered by the Compton brothers and his other team-mates. I didn't know that Arsenal played in a goldish coloured shirt that day. Who might have sponsored them then, if that was available. ? HOOVER.maybe.

[jimmy ching]

Photo. Bertie Mee and Wilf Mannion in Cairo.

Here's a good article about football during the war

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thread moved to football talk

[035robroy]

An abrupt transfer. Not even a capital letter or a full stop, but no matter, the oldies will soon locate us, Jimmy. Your wartime feature is excellent with a good picture of Bertie Mee and young Wilf. Bertie used to work in my village before going to Arsenal in the early 60's but had not realised he was originally from Bulwell, Nottingham.

Just after suggesting a shirt sponsor for Arsenal as possibly Hoover, even better would have been Brylcreem with the Compton connection. Could DUREX have been considered ?
Seeing the picture of Wilf Mannion reminded me of Raich Carter of Sunderland who came to Derby and helped winthe Cup in '46.

[035robroy]

If any FISOers want to join 83 SELECT for the Champions League event this may give a clue why it has that title. Tommymooney, the Hornets man could be my number one grandson and the long list of ages from both 2012 and 2013 was worth reading with my corn flakes.
Many of those names listed never offer anything on the site. To me FISO is required reading every day. More power to those who respond with more than a single word......

[tommymooney]

My grandads are 91 and 86. I'll be happy to match 'em!

[bluenosey]

For RobRoy

Interesting article on football and WW1, which will be very much in the headlines this year, being the 100th anniversary and all.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWfootball.htm

Asquith's Gov't of the day, with the famously hirsute Lord Kitchener at the helm, were having difficulty recruiting the average working man into the Army, especially football fans, until a brave bunch from Heart of Midlothian volunteered. This is covered in Jeremy Paxman's documentary on the Great War (Part 1) and also here :-

http://www.edinburghs-war.ed.ac.uk/syst ... FC_WW1.pdf

Compare that to today's primadonna's !

There's a very good article somewhere on how the losses of WW1 affected crowds but I can't find it. I'm sure up to 1914 Charlton and Millwall were very well supported - top 5 in the country - but the war decimated that.

[blahblah]

Women's football picked up during WWI, or so I remember from a history lecture, and apparently got decent crowds.

[bluenosey]

My grandads are 91 and 86. I'll be happy to match 'em!

is that at fantasy football ?

[Sport Billy]

Age of selection of FISO users

Arsenal

DixieDean 43
Razorback 39
Jagduracell: 35
Ashers 31

Birmingham City

bluenosey 39

Cambridge Utd

fancy dan 40

Celtic

Herc6 21

Chelsea

Vid 49
ctibbits : 35
Dixon 31

Coventry City

The Elkmaster : 54

Crystal Palace

Deppy 39

Hull

Aardvark 56

Leeds

Malrom 58
Surprised : 48
Spencer4 48

Liverpool

Murf 62 Eh?
sted 50
paisleypark 45
goldenballs 41
StarMan : 40
Gurn King 69 39
Zimmerman : 37

Luton Town

the dude abides 51

Man Utd


thelip 51
Flyman 49
Jester 48
thebillfella 47
Darbyand 38
mysteryshopper 30
Tacalabala 25

Newcastle

Moist von Lipwig 39

Nottingham Forest

Shaggy365 48
jpk 42
Tricky Tree 41
forestfan 33

Oxford United

bspittles 45

Partick Thistle

mowatson 35

Rangers

barry 34

Sheffield Wednesday

wiseowl65 47
bigsheff 31

Southampton

Knulpuk 42

Swansea

Jack72 39

Tottenham

Beerfuelledman 37
NuttyGeezer 25

Watford

tommymooney 34
gwancarl 32

West Ham

Richt 39

Wigan

Latic 37

Wolves

unc.si. 43
Dennisthemenace 40

Not Declared / Neutral

Joe Kerr 33

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Hey!! You missed me out of the Birmingham fans!! (42)

[murf]

Still not 62!

Had a recent 40 something birthday and have a few of them left!

[sted]

...and I'm a couple of years off 50

[thebillfella]

Age of selection of FISO users

Man Utd

thebillfella 47
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Where the eff has that guess come from. I'm still in my [late] thirties!!! I can barely remember the 70s and 80s never mind the 40s and 50s. Update please 39

[paisleypark]

Have to admit I am 65 not 45 - must have posted 45 somewhere in a moment of madness.
I watched my first Liverpool match in the 50s and was hooked straightaway.

[Spinynorman]

I was around for the 50's but the 60's wiped my memory clean.

[blahblah]

Age of selection of FISO users

Man Utd

thebillfella 47
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Where the eff has that guess come from. I'm still in my [late] thirties!!! I can barely remember the 70s and 80s never mind the 40s and 50s. Update please 39

[tommymooney]

don't shoot the messenger, man, someone needs to update the original thread!!

Anyone got some free admin time?

[035robroy]

I think it would be a good idea to start all over again. It seems that Darbyand began the original list in May 2012 which has been more or less repeated by Sport Billy this week. I watched FEVER PITCH on TV last night (first time I had seen it) so the events of 1988-89 will be recalled by virtually everyone. It was 3 years before the Prem began in '92.
Was there ever a listing before 2012 ?
Let's see how many clubs can be represented, not just the big names who we agonise over every week. Please make sure you give your true age, no leap year ages
How about JUNIORS.born after 1976. MIDDLES. born after we won the World Cup in '66.
SENIORS, any time before that.

How's that for a start Tommymooney ? My own is WYCOMBE WANDERERS the year they won the Amateur Cup. Look it up !

[035robroy]

maybe you do not and this is not the most relevant thread but I was at Trent Bridge yesterday..... need I say more. A unique day in cricket history

[dixiedalton]

That's when footballers where working class normal lads not like these tarts now adays !!!

[035robroy]

I thought I would give this another run out following the Queen's big day yesterday. Which FISOers were around in 1952 ? reading through the thread paisley park and Sam D for sure. murf maybe, who else ? There must be one or two among the newer FISOers who may be viewers but are among the silent majority. This 'ghetto' outlook is very disappointing because there is a distinct lack of chat and response in words and sentences. Exclude the perennial RMT's usually featuring jimborogers. which seems to be at least 50% of the total content.
You have all had your first break and will be flooding the wave lengths in the next 48 hours to rectify poor starts (I will be too especially in the Tiny League)
Next week it's the CL and EL group stages first matches. Dare I mention GOALS GALORE ?

[Knulpuk]

murf maybe

Unlikely he would have have been very young then, I can remember very little from when I was 3/4 yrs old.

[murf]

Oi!

I may be retiring in 3 weeks time but I'm not that old....

Never mind remembering the 40s or 50s I was still in nappies (small ones at that) when the 60s ended.

[Maldini]

Retiring?

You work!

[murf]

It won't be much of a change....

[tommymooney]

Is that proper, full on, take your pension retirement Murf?

[murf]

Is that proper, full on, take your pension retirement Murf?

I'm too young to take my pension (as I keep saying I don't remember the 40s or 50s OR 60s!) but if things go to plan I won't be working any more.

If things don't go to plan then I'll be asking if you want fries with that in a few years

[thelip]

On a not so fond note, one of my old bosses was from Bolton and even though he wasn't a Bolton fan, a relative of his was at Burnden Park when there was a pretty gruesome crush. He said the crowd were passing bodies over their heads, thinkjng they were still alive, as was common practice with youngsters years and years ago.. A lot had no idea how bad it was until after the game

Had never heard of this before. Quick Wiki check reveals the staggering fact that

"The dead and injured were taken from the railway end terrace, with those who had perished lain along the touchline and covered in coats. A little under half an hour after leaving the pitch, the game was restarted, with a new sawdust lined touchline separating the players from the bodies."

[paisleypark]

I did go to Anfield in the 50's with my dad. He always took me in the main stand as I was probably 9 or 10 at the time and standing wasn't an option.
The boys pen was in the corner next to the Kop and alongside the usual crowd roars there was often some high shrieking chants of encouragement from the boys pen - it was weird hearing it for the first time.
We used to park quite near the ground as some friend or distant relative kept us a space outside their house by putting a ladder on 2 buckets in the road - might have been a window cleaner!
Alan A'Court, Billy Liddell, Louis Bimpson, Jimmy Melia and Gerry Byrne stick in my memory and Bob Paisley was around as well at the time maybe as a trainer.