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Fantasy Racing: Stable Stars 2017-18 results * no 2018-19 game *

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The National Hunt game has been relaunched: https://www.stable-stars.com/
Stable Stars is free to play with one entry allowed per person.

Prizes:
  • £8,000 cash for overall winner; £2,000 for second; £500 free bet for third.
    Plus other awards down to tenth place and for five monthly winners.
Competition period: Sat 18 November 2017 to Sat 28 April 2018.
Entries open: Fri 3 Nov 2017.

This excellent, well-run game has attracted 18,000 and 14,000 entrants over last two seasons.
Rules have been amended following feedback, eg: weekly deadline 11pm Friday; three transfers per round.

A public Fiso mini-league is being set up, with a mug again on offer to the top scorer.
If interested in joining please post team name below.

League details will be forwarded by PM from 3 Nov.
The two most recent contests have been headed by topspur:
- first seven in 2015-16 Fiso Federation mini-league
  • 01 Paul Branigan, Topspurs Tips, 1,505 points; 112th overall
    02 Julian Ravilious, Pigeons, 1,490; 138th
    03 Sam David, Forever Changes, 1,465
    04 Liam Mannion, Polar, 1,460
    05 David Burch, Highclere House, 1,410
    06 Tim O'Sullivan, Ambercourt House, 1,377
    07 David Browne, A Pile of Horseshoes, 1,157
    thread: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=119227
- leaders in 2016-17 Fiso Federation mini-league
  • 1 Paul Branigan, Topspurs Ten, 2,127 points; 56th overall
    2 Ashley Bloodworth, Eli Jack, 2,097; 74th
    3 Diana Walker, Diana's Stable, 2,085; 80th
    4 Ian Brown, Allamoor, 2,069
    5 Chris Beard, Walkley, 1,869
    6 Sam David, Forever Changes, 1,850
    7 Julian Ravilious, Pigeons, 1,630
    thread: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=123066
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Stable Stars: rules

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2017-18 Competition Rules
Stable Stars Game Competition period: Saturday, 18th November 2017 to Saturday 28th April 2018.
Points Scoring begins: First race on Saturday 18th November, 2017.
Entries Open – Friday, 3rd November 2017
Entries Close – 9pm on 20th April, 2018.
 
Setting up your Stable
Players must create their own team/stable name upon submitting an entry.
A stable will comprise of 12 horses, 2 Elite Selections and 10 Main Selections and one horse will have to be selected as the “Stable Star”.
Stables set up after 11pm, Friday, 17th November, will not be eligible to win points in the first Game week, which runs from Saturday 18/11/17 to Friday 24/11/17.
Once the game has begun (18/11/17, 12-horse stables can only be created between 12.01am Monday and 11pm Friday each week. 
Stables set up in a defined “Game Week” will only be eligible to start winning points in the following “Game Week”. Each “Game Week” runs from 12am Saturday to 11.59pm Friday, e.g. a stable set up on Tuesday, 20th November, can only start winning points from the following Saturday, 25/11/17 (for Game Week 2 onwards). 

Stable Star
Players must nominate one horse to be their “Stable Star” each week. A horse must be selected as “stable star” upon submitting entry, which can be changed each week (if not changed, then that same horse remains the “Stable Star”).
Each player’s Stable Star scores double points for winning a race in that week (or finishing 2nd or 3rd in a bonus race).

Calculating scores
Horses winning National Hunt races under the Rules of Racing (hurdles, chases and NH flat races) in Great Britain or Ireland will receive a number of points for each win. The number of points gained for each win is determined by the total amount of prize money the winning horse receives (as listed below):

Non-Bonus Races value and points
Race worth £30,000/€33,500 or higher to winner = 30 points
Race worth £25,000 to £29,999 (€28,000 to €33,499) to winner = 25
Race worth £20,000 to £24,999 (€22,500 to €27,999) to winner = 20
Race worth £15,000 to £19,999 (€17,000 to €22,499) to winner = 15
Race worth £10,000 to £14,999 (€11,500 to €16,999) to winner = 12
Race worth less than £10,000/€11,499 to winner = 10
In the event of a dead-heat, points will be divided by the number of horses dead-heating with fractions rounded down. No points for a walkover. The official result on the day will be used for the calculation of points with any subsequent disqualifications disregarded.

Stable Star
A player’s Stable Star scores double points for winning a race in that week.
So if a player’s Stable Star, for example, was to win two races worth less than £10K that week (10pt score for winning each race), that player would receive 40pts instead of 20pts for those 2 wins.

Bonus Races
There will be a list of bonus races throughout the NH season, in which points can be earned for selecting the 1st, 2nd & 3rd. Players gain 50pts for selecting the winner of a bonus race, 25pts for second and 15pts for third. All horse that score points in bonus races will count as winners on the leaderboard. Click here to view the list of Bonus Races.
In the event of a dead-heat, points will be divided by the number of horses dead-heating with fractions rounded down. No points for a walkover. The official result on the day will be used for the calculation of points with any subsequent disqualifications disregarded.

Prizes
There is a £8,000 cash top prize for the player who finishes the Stable Stars Game on the highest points total. There will be also be prizes for the 2nd to 10th places in the Overall Game, the top points scorer in the months of December, January, February, March & April, details of which can be found on the Prizes Page.

Transfers
Players are permitted three transfers from the Main Selections List each Game Week, transfer window is open from 12.01am Monday to 11pm on Friday (please note that a transfer only affects your stable for the following game week and does not take immediate effect).
Players are permitted one Elite transfer each calendar month. The month in which the transfer is deemed to have been made is determined by the date of the Saturday on which the horse is added to the stable. The transfer is deemed to be made in the month in which that specific Saturday falls.
e.g. if a player decides to make an Elite Transfer on Tuesday, 28th November, the Elite Selection will be transferred into his/her stable on Saturday, 2nd December, so this will count as that player's one Elite Transfer for December.

Private leagues
All players can set up their own private league by clicking here, and can invite friends, family & colleagues to compete against them in the Stable Stars Game. All players can also join another players private league. To join a private league you will need the league administrator to send you the exact name of the league and the individual four digit code, you can then join via the Private League's page on Stable Stables.
At The Races is not responsible for any prizes offered by individuals operating Private/Mini Leagues through stable-stars.com.

Additional Horses
As the season progresses additional horses may be added to the game. You will be able to transfer these horses into your stable. Check the “Recently Added” tab on the transfer page, to see latest horses added to the Main Selections List.

Abandoned meetings
In the event that any fixture involving a horse you have selected is cancelled or postponed to fall outside the Game time period (18/11/17 to 28/04/18) this selection will not score any points.

Injuries/Retirements/Bereavements
If one of your stable selections is reported to be out for the season, you will be able to transfer the affected horse out of your stable as per the normal Stable Stars transfer policy.

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Stable Stars: teams

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Fiso Federation entries
1. Forever Changes, SamD
2.
3.
etc

[copy, add your team plus Fiso-ID and paste to receive league PIN in Nov]

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Re: Fantasy Racing 2017-18 * Stable Stars game begins 18 Nov *

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Name: johngooch

Horse List Name: Jumping Champions

I would like to enter the FISO League. I did enter last season and are hoping that the new rules will make things more competitive this time.

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Re: Fantasy Racing 2017-18 * Stable Stars game begins 18 Nov *

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Not sure if the three transfers will make a difference as there is still no reward for bigger field races.

The bonus races needed amending to other races.

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Ashers wrote: 21 Oct 2017, 19:17 Not sure if the three transfers will make a difference as there is still no reward for bigger field races.

The bonus races needed amending to other races.

It's not so much a question of rewarding big field winners but of rewards being related to probabilities. The fact that a 20/1 winner is worth no more than a 1/3 winner is strange, and results in a high similarity of managers' selections with everyone tending to favour hot favourites. This kills selection skill and favours those who manager their teams boringly efficiently. There's nothing wrong with that IF that is the intention of those operating the game.

Pushing the transfer deadline back to 11pm is a slight improvement and may marginally reduce the number of managers forgetting the deadline.

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Re: Fantasy Racing 2017-18 * Stable Stars game begins 18 Nov *

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johngooch wrote: 21 Oct 2017, 19:04 I did enter last season and are hoping that the new rules will make things more competitive this time.

To achieve maximum competitiveness, they should either have pushed the selection deadline to Saturday morning, quite close to the start of the first race, or allowed managers to change their transfers during the week with the teams as at their deadline being locked in. This would mean that one could make one's transfers at any time, and update them on Friday if you remember. In this way the cost of forgetting the easy to forget deadline would be mitigated.

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Stable Stars: Fiso prize league

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2017-18 Stable Stars NH game is now open for entries: https://www.stable-stars.com/

'Fiso Federation' mini-league has been set up. Please add your stable name to list of entrants below to receive PIN.
The league winner in April 2018 earns a Fiso Mug (as before, team must be set to public view to qualify for prize).

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Prize League

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Fiso Federation entries
1. Forever Changes, SamD
2. Jumping Champions, johngooch
3.
etc

[copy above, add your stable name and then re-post to receive league PIN by PM]

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Re: Prize League

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SamD wrote: 03 Nov 2017, 15:23 Fiso Federation entries
1. Forever Changes, SamD
2. Jumping Champions, johngooch
3. Bringbackthebiff wahine
etc

[copy above, add your stable name and then re-post to receive league PIN by PM]
Gosh SamD I havnt given National Hunt a thought since last season nice to see the top horses returning in the elite Group lets all hope they stay fit and well for the season, I think we were down to about 4 last season, make it a lot harder if the elite horses all stay in the game for the sake of differentials eh? Thanks for the invite, that mug just has to get to NZ one day :lol:

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You say that, but they have already taken a risk with two of them that may not be the same as before. I can easily see that list being reduced by two come January.

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Re: Fantasy Racing 2017-18 * Stable Stars game begins 18 Nov *

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Fiso Federation entries
1. Forever Changes, SamD
2. Jumping Champions, johngooch
3. Bringbackthebiff wahine
4 Paxtons Punts Topspur

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Re: Fantasy Racing 2017-18 * Stable Stars game begins 18 Nov *

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Fiso Federation entries
1. Forever Changes, SamD
2. Jumping Champions, johngooch
3. Bringbackthebiff wahine
4 Paxtons Punts Topspur
5. Yorkshire Dragon yorkshiredragon

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Re: Fantasy Racing 2017-18 * Stable Stars game begins 18 Nov *

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Fiso Federation entries
1. Forever Changes, SamD
2. Jumping Champions, johngooch
3. Bringbackthebiff wahine
4. Paxtons Punts Topspur
5. Yorkshire Dragon yorkshiredragon
6. Allamoor Harryhodge

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Re: Fantasy Racing 2017-18 * Stable Stars game begins 18 Nov *

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Fiso Federation entries
1. Forever Changes, SamD
2. Jumping Champions, johngooch
3. Bringbackthebiff wahine
4. Paxtons Punts Topspur
5. Yorkshire Dragon yorkshiredragon
6. Allamoor Harryhodge
7. Pigeons, Spencer4

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The game has not even started yet and we have lost Altior until at least March.

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oh sad, and I see Faugheen and Coneygree demoted to the other list, presume they are on the unsound list.

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wahine wrote: 16 Nov 2017, 03:09 oh sad, and I see Faugheen and Coneygree demoted to the other list, presume they are on the unsound list.

Coneygree has a minor problem, but Faugheen is supposed to be fully fit. We'll see on Sunday whether the "old" Faugheen is back or an inferior version. The stable claims that we'll see the "old" Faugheen.

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Fiso Federation entries
1. Forever Changes, SamD
2. Jumping Champions, johngooch
3. Bringbackthebiff wahine
4. Paxtons Punts Topspur
5. Yorkshire Dragon yorkshiredragon
6. Allamoor Harryhodge
7. Pigeons, Spencer4
8. stronger in europe - quizking

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Just to confirm that we have until 11pm tonight to finalize our teams?

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Just to confirm that we have until 11pm tonight to finalize our teams?

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Pin please Sam.

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Ashers wrote: 17 Nov 2017, 06:53 Just to confirm that we have until 11pm tonight to finalize our teams?
Yes

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Fiso Federation entries
1. Forever Changes, SamD
2. Jumping Champions, johngooch
3. Bringbackthebiff wahine
4. Paxtons Punts Topspur
5. Yorkshire Dragon yorkshiredragon
6. Allamoor Harryhodge
7. Pigeons, Spencer4
8. stronger in europe - quizking
9. Bloggie > bloggie

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The elite transfer is of no use this month then.

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Fiso Federation entries
1. Forever Changes, SamD
2. Jumping Champions, johngooch
3. Bringbackthebiff wahine
4. Paxtons Punts Topspur
5. Yorkshire Dragon yorkshiredragon
6. Allamoor Harryhodge
7. Pigeons, Spencer4
8. stronger in europe - quizking
9. Bloggie > bloggie
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Re: Fantasy Racing 2017-18 * Stable Stars game begins 18 Nov *

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Fiso Federation entries
1. Forever Changes, SamD
2. Jumping Champions, johngooch
3. Bringbackthebiff wahine
4. Paxtons Punts Topspur
5. Yorkshire Dragon yorkshiredragon
6. Allamoor Harryhodge
7. Pigeons, Spencer4
8. stronger in europe - quizking
9. Bloggie > bloggie
10. walkley - Jezza3
11. Three Lengths Clear - Striker

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Re: Fantasy Racing 2017-18 * Stable Stars game begins 18 Nov *

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Fiso Federation entries
1. Forever Changes, SamD
2. Jumping Champions, johngooch
3. Bringbackthebiff wahine
4. Paxtons Punts Topspur
5. Yorkshire Dragon yorkshiredragon
6. Allamoor Harryhodge
7. Pigeons, Spencer4
8. stronger in europe - quizking
9. Bloggie > bloggie
10. walkley - Jezza3
11. Three Lengths Clear - Striker
12. Eli Jack - Ashers

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Stable Stars game

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Fiso league PIN was sent by PM on Fri 3 Nov to last season's entrants.
Please post here asap if you need details. Deadline is 2300 GMT today.

Current entries (with Fiso moniker where it may not be obvious):
1 John Gooch, Jumping Champions
* 2 Ian Brown, Allamoor (harryhodge)
* 3 Liam Mannion, bloggie
4 Steve King, stronger in Europe (quizking)
5 Chris Beard, Walkley (Jezza3)
6 Sam David, Forever Changes
7 Paul Branigan, Paxtons Punts (topspur)
8 Diana Walker, Bringbackthebiff (wahine)
* 9 Dean Allen, Yorkshire Dragon
10 David Browne, Three Lengths Clear (Striker)
* 11 Ashley Bloodworth, Eli Jack (Ashers)
Spencer4 is also due to join.

* Four are set to 'private', which is fine. As usual, they're not eligible for token Fiso Mug award.
Good luck with picks.

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Re: Fantasy Racing 2017-18 * Stable Stars game begins 18 Nov *

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1 John Gooch, Jumping Champions
* 2 Ian Brown, Allamoor (harryhodge)
* 3 Liam Mannion, bloggie
4 Steve King, stronger in Europe (quizking)
5 Chris Beard, Walkley (Jezza3)
6 Sam David, Forever Changes
7 Paul Branigan, Paxtons Punts (topspur)
8 Diana Walker, Bringbackthebiff (wahine)
* 9 Dean Allen, Yorkshire Dragon
10 David Browne, Three Lengths Clear (Striker)
* 11 Ashley Bloodworth, Eli Jack (Ashers)
Spencer4 is also due to join.
12 DickysDonkeys Dickypick - Pin Please

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