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Ralfbergs wrote: As for Gibson - he is in the list, but on the second page, maybe that's why you missed him.
Cheers.

I've now written down everything I know in a separate thread. Will update with new info as people find it. :D

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Robot- Starsofthefuture
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Tacalabala - Old School Kane-Ings
MoSe - BetteroffMarioless
Maldini - Ham on Rye
Ashers - TBC
Robot- Starsofthefuture
Surprised - Stay in the EU
MorrisonDullforce - Dullta Force U21s
fred1266 - fred1266 FC
Ralfbergs - Filthy Raccoons
Moist von Lipwig - The Shy Teds
Stemania - LtsCatchUpWthVille
frattonender - frattonender
chris2k_11 - wFC11
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Tacalabala - Old School Kane-Ings
MoSe - BetteroffMarioless
Maldini - Ham on Rye
Ashers - TBC
Robot- Starsofthefuture
Surprised - Stay in the EU
MorrisonDullforce - Dullta Force U21s
fred1266 - fred1266 FC
Ralfbergs - Filthy Raccoons
Moist von Lipwig - The Shy Teds
Stemania - LtsCatchUpWthVille
frattonender - frattonender
chris2k_11 - wFC11
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Tacalabala - Old School Kane-Ings
MoSe - BetteroffMarioless
Maldini - Ham on Rye
Ashers - TBC
Robot- Starsofthefuture
Surprised - Stay in the EU
MorrisonDullforce - Dullta Force U21s
fred1266 - fred1266 FC
Ralfbergs - Filthy Raccoons
Moist von Lipwig - The Shy Teds
Stemania - LtsCatchUpWthVille
frattonender - frattonender
chris2k_11 - wFC11
jasonbek-Jomboy City
the triple c's - the treble c's
thebillfella - Ctrl Alt De Laet
Spencer4 - Young Pigeons
Wiseowl65 - Keane to get Kaned
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Tacalabala - Old School Kane-Ings
MoSe - BetteroffMarioless
Maldini - Ham on Rye
Ashers - TBC
Robot- Starsofthefuture
Surprised - Stay in the EU
MorrisonDullforce - Dullta Force U21s
fred1266 - fred1266 FC
Ralfbergs - Filthy Raccoons
Moist von Lipwig - The Shy Teds
Stemania - LtsCatchUpWthVille
frattonender - frattonender
chris2k_11 - wFC11
jasonbek-Jomboy City
the triple c's - the treble c's
thebillfella - Ctrl Alt De Laet
Spencer4 - Young Pigeons
Wiseowl65 - Keane to get Kaned
Subsonic-Berties Bassetts
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Tacalabala - Old School Kane-Ings
MoSe - BetteroffMarioless
Maldini - Ham on Rye
Ashers - TBC
Robot- Starsofthefuture
Surprised - Stay in the EU
MorrisonDullforce - Dullta Force U21s
fred1266 - fred1266 FC
Ralfbergs - Filthy Raccoons
Moist von Lipwig - The Shy Teds
Stemania - LtsCatchUpWthVille
frattonender - frattonender
chris2k_11 - wFC11
jasonbek-Jomboy City
the triple c's - the treble c's
thebillfella - Ctrl Alt De Laet
Spencer4 - Young Pigeons
Wiseowl65 - Keane to get Kaned
Subsonic-Berties Bassetts
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The deadline to join the knockout game is midnight tonight, just so I can sort it out on Tuesday before kick off on Wednesday.

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Tacalabala - Old School Kane-Ings
MoSe - BetteroffMarioless
Maldini - Ham on Rye
Ashers - TBC
Robot- Starsofthefuture
Surprised - Stay in the EU
MorrisonDullforce - Dullta Force U21s
fred1266 - fred1266 FC
Ralfbergs - Filthy Raccoons
Moist von Lipwig - The Shy Teds
Stemania - LtsCatchUpWthVille
frattonender - frattonender
chris2k_11 - wFC11
jasonbek-Jomboy City
the triple c's - the treble c's
thebillfella - Ctrl Alt De Laet
Spencer4 - Young Pigeons
Wiseowl65 - Keane to get Kaned
Subsonic-Berties Bassetts
Mo bot - Plastic Whistle
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Tacalabala - Old School Kane-Ings
MoSe - BetteroffMarioless
Maldini - Ham on Rye
Ashers - TBC
Robot- Starsofthefuture
Surprised - Stay in the EU
MorrisonDullforce - Dullta Force U21s
fred1266 - fred1266 FC
Ralfbergs - Filthy Raccoons
Moist von Lipwig - The Shy Teds
Stemania - LtsCatchUpWthVille
frattonender - frattonender
chris2k_11 - wFC11
jasonbek-Jomboy City
the triple c's - the treble c's
thebillfella - Ctrl Alt De Laet
Spencer4 - Young Pigeons
Wiseowl65 - Keane to get Kaned
Subsonic-Berties Bassetts
Mo bot - Plastic Whistle
1albert - Stokies
Hellcat - HC Heroes
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Tacalabala - Old School Kane-Ings
MoSe - BetteroffMarioless
Maldini - Ham on Rye
Ashers - TBC
Robot- Starsofthefuture
Surprised - Stay in the EU
MorrisonDullforce - Dullta Force U21s
fred1266 - fred1266 FC
Ralfbergs - Filthy Raccoons
Moist von Lipwig - The Shy Teds
Stemania - LtsCatchUpWthVille
frattonender - frattonender
chris2k_11 - wFC11
jasonbek-Jomboy City
the triple c's - the treble c's
thebillfella - Ctrl Alt De Laet
Spencer4 - Young Pigeons
Wiseowl65 - Keane to get Kaned
Subsonic-Berties Bassetts
Mo bot - Plastic Whistle
1albert - Stokies
Hellcat - HC Heroes
Droughton - Red Lorry
jpk - Falconhoof

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24 it is, good number. I'll be back later tonight with the fixtures...

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Tacalabala wrote:24 it is, good number. I'll be back later tonight with the fixtures...
Good number for 8 teams of 3 as well.... :wink:

Oh MoSe and MvL......you both like running competitions. :P

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I'm still an apprentice in their respect!

I couldn't find yet the time for the just ended season roundup stats...
____

besides, I'm still wondering hiow Taca will fillup the 8 missing spots for a full 32 bracket...
even considering "repechages" ... http://www.britishjudo.org.uk/sites/def ... /CKO32.pdf

he can't just give byes...
  1. on which basis
  2. we're here to play, we don't want to sit one round "idling"
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Knockout Competition draw

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Re. repechage, the first phase will see the losers from the first round matched up in mirror image of second round. Repechage second phase will see the winners of the first phase joined by the losers of the second round in a single MD winner-takes-all, who will qualify to the semi finals.

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sooo... R1 -> 12W to R2 + 12L to Rep1

R2 -> 6W to QF + 6L to Rep2
Rep1 -> 6W to Rep2

QF -> 3W to SF
Rep2 -> 1st score out of 12 (6 R2L + 6 Rep1 W) to SF

... I would count the score of the 3 SF Lossers in the Rep2 pool too... I find it unfair a team losing QF to get "overtaken" by onw who lost in previous rounds....

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I had to make the cut somewhere, I think this is the most straightforward way of giving the majority something to play for.

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MoSe wrote:QF -> 3W to SF
Rep2 -> 1st score out of 12 (6 R2L + 6 Rep1 W) to SF

... I would count the score of the 3 SF Lossers in the Rep2 pool too... I find it unfair a team losing QF to get "overtaken" by onw who lost in previous rounds....
Tacalabala wrote:I had to make the cut somewhere, I think this is the most straightforward way of giving the majority something to play for.
yes of course, mine wasn't a criticism, just a consideration "on the fly"
you had an excellent idea, plus you got the "Official" badge and I wouldn't dare to undermine it nor to enter in competition with it :wink:

I just meant to point out:
- those who lost Round1 KO (then got thru Rep1)
- the 6 who lost Round2
all get a side chance for a SF berth, based on MD3 score from a single winner-takes-all pool
WHILE
the 3 who lost QF don't, despite they won both R1 and R2
...they too lost just 1 KO match (as the 12 in Rep2 did), and against "stronger" opponents too

Thus:
as the 4th SF berth gets assigned on a purely score basis from a huge WTA pool,
I was "suggesting" the score of the 3 Losing QFists should take part in that pool too

or rather:
the score of the Rep2 WTA Pool Winner should also be higher than the best scoring QF loser,
or the latter would be "repeched" ahead of the other 12 losers, which would have been "worse losers" than the best losing QFist anyway...
(I hope I managed to make my idea clear enough :) )

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MoSe wrote:
Tacalabala wrote:I had to make the cut somewhere, I think this is the most straightforward way of giving the majority something to play for.
yes of course, mine wasn't a criticism, just a consideration "on the fly"
you had an excellent idea, plus you got the "Official" badge and I wouldn't dare to undermine it nor to enter in competition with it :wink:
keeping the above spirit well in mind,
only after I saw your brilliant and straightforward solution, I began to think of alternatives...

I came up with this possbile structure
  • UEFA U21 2015 - 24 players KO with 2 Repechage.gif
it's a bit more complex, I know,
and 1st round doesn't start with a proper KO, but with mini.pools of 3
  • which would tho allow to separate the 24 players in 3 groups of 8
    the R1 winners would advance to a proper KO bracket
    the we'd have two Repechage tiers of 8 for the R1 runnerups and for the 3rd placed
    each furtherly split in 2 pools of 4
I repeat, I'm fine with the official game and don't want to compete nor to distract from it
I could just run it in parallel as a "test", in case it could be considered as another option in future games :)
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Just in case people hadn't noticed:

The times on the UEFA website are CET not BST.

The first game kicks off at 5pm UK time (not 6pm) and the MD1 deadline in 16:45 UK time not 17:45. We should know the opening game CR vs Denmark lineups at just before 16:00 UK time.

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for the records, FISO MD1 halfway

Code: Select all

#	MDP	Team name	Manager
1	30	Red Lorry	samdroughton1989
1	30	England Wont win	Stu_team2004
3	28	Stokies	Albert
4	27	fred1266 FC	fred1266
4	27	FutureStars	Stive08
6	25	Dullta Force U21s	robert_a_hodges
7	24	HC Heroes	Hellcat
8	23	Starsofthefuture	Robot
8	23	Die_Jugend_U21	Dan
8	23	Keane to get Kaned	Wiseowl65
8	23	The Luckiest Team	BAZOVI
12	22	Ashley Young	NERONALDO
12	22	Plastic Whistle	particleman
12	22	FC WOLVES	Ricardo
15	21	Eurostars	mikes91166
15	21	zicostyle	zicostyle
15	21	In It To Win It	Simantas
18	20	petpet all stars	Pat Man
19	19	Future Lions	ashers23281
20	18	OldSchoolKane-Ings	Tacalabala
20	18	the treble c's	Andrew Hydon
20	18	Junior Pigeons	Spencer4
23	16	LtsCatchUpWthVille	Stemania
23	16	Falconhoof	jpk100
25	15	Filthy Raccoons	Ralfberg
25	15	Ctrl Alt De Laet	thebillfella
25	15	Harry The Pain	Zulumonkey
25	15	Shola on Tour	Scott Demba Moosa Graham
29	13	Eenog koning	Knulpuk
30	12	The Shy Teds	Moist von Lipwig
30	12	wFC11	chris2009
30	12	Jomboy City	Jasonbek
33	11	frattonender	frattonender
33	11	Ham on Rye	Tim Bisley
35	10	INTERMILITO	Stefano Nurse
36	8	BetteroffMarioless	MoSe62
37	6	Snjegotina	broofist7
38	4	Stay in the EU	Surprised
38	4	The Hellions	Calvert
38	4	Berties Bassetts	mrcreosote
[/size]
some have already put in their Manual Subs for today matches

for instance I have already sacrificed 3 of my hard earned 11p :oops:

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It's already taken account of my subs there too.

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yeah, it's interesting that in the league page I see you have 18p,
while if I look at your team the game of course does not allow me to "spy" your moves while the Changes Window is still open,
and still shows me your yesterday lineup with the "in progress" box at the top still crediting you 27p
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That table looks good :)

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Droughton wrote:That table looks good :)
and considering the KO sidegame too, amazing how Taca managed to pair the table leader with the bottom placed team... ;)
not much sweat for you today, subsonic will join in the Repechage bracket :mrgreen:

as for myself actually, this gives me a 0.01 hope
  • Image
one less arrow in wiseowl quiver :mrgreen:

he has 21p (after the subs) vs mine 8p, but I'll have 2 more to play
we both have Berardi and B.Silva, an then
  • wise: Redmond Garbutt Guerrero
    mose: Kane JWP Jenkinson Rugani Bardi
the only issue could be than you'll now captain Berardi, while I was thinking of Kane

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MoSe wrote:
Droughton wrote:That table looks good :)
and considering the KO sidegame too, amazing how Taca managed to pair the table leader with the bottom placed team... ;)
not much sweat for you today, subsonic will join in the Repechage bracket :mrgreen:

as for myself actually, this gives me a 0.01 hope
  • Image
one less arrow in wiseowl quiver :mrgreen:

he has 21p (after the subs) vs mine 8p, but I'll have 2 more to play
we both have Berardi and B.Silva, an then
  • wise: Redmond Garbutt Guerrero
    mose: Kane JWP Jenkinson Rugani Bardi
the only issue could be than you'll now captain Berardi, while I was thinking of Kane
Yeah, no sweat today. I do have a bias of group A players, so I expect people with group B bias will likely leapfrog me

I've gone for Kane. I'm happy to sacrifice 3 points from Volland

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