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So the pecking order is clearly WI > ENG > SL > SA then? Where do India and Australia fit in? :wink:

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forestfan wrote:So the pecking order is clearly WI > ENG > SL > SA then? Where do India and Australia fit in? :wink:
England beat India 4-1 and South Africa 2-1 so presumably above below SA and above Aus, but Sri Lanka lost to Aus so they should appear twice in the table.

Rankings are a joke anyway for me

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liquidfootball2 wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 09:27
forestfan wrote:So the pecking order is clearly WI > ENG > SL > SA then? Where do India and Australia fit in? :wink:
England beat India 4-1 and South Africa 2-1 so presumably above below SA and above Aus, but Sri Lanka lost to Aus so they should appear twice in the table.

Rankings are a joke anyway for me
Well they’re pretty meaningless at the moment because there’s nothing between the teams and anyone can beat anyone else, home teams generally have a big advantage but there’s still some unfathomable away successes amongst it all. No logic to it whatsoever.

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After such an outstandingly momentous and historic Sri Lankan series victory in South Africa, the first Asian side ever to win a series there, the celebrations are possibly only now subsiding, it will perhaps become a famous series to be remembered in years to come.

Most Sri Lankans may or may not drink alcohol but whatever the case the bubbles in the fizz might have truly popped for one of their most famed cricketers...

Sanath Jayasuriya, one of Sri Lanka’s finest ever players, has been banned for two years for failing to cooperate with anti-corruption investigators

Jayasuriya, a 1996 World Cup winner, is the first of a string of Sri Lankan cricketers to be sanctioned by the International Cricket Council after a two-year investigation which is still ongoing. (More announcements are expected soon.)

Jayasuriya is the biggest name to have been banned by the ICC since the Pakistan match fixing scandal of 2010. He refused to hand over two phones when asked to help with an anti-corruption investigation focussing on his time as chairman of selectors two years ago.

The ICC began investigating a one-day international against Zimbabwe in Hambontota in July 2017 when Jayasuriya was chairman of selectors. He handed over two phones at an interview with detectives in September 2017 but failed to mention two other devices.

At a follow up interview the next day he confessed to owning the two other phones but said they had been lost in Colombo in May 2017. He claimed the numbers had been disconnected but unbeknown to him, investigators had called one of the phones which turned out to still be in use. In later interviews he claimed he had damaged one of the phones, rather than lost it, and his driver had put the sim card in a new handset.

The ICC did not believe his explanation and he has been banned from any involvement in cricket after breaching two counts of the anti-corruption code.

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England scored 419-6 off their 50 overs including the world record for the highest number of sixes in an innings

Buttler 15p off 77 deliveries

Morgan also with a century

England replaced the injured Jason Roy with Alex Hales who sadly missed out with only 80 odd

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England won the fourth ODI by 29 runs after bowling West Indies all out for a brave 389 in reply to 418-6.

Adil Rashid finished it off with four wickets in five balls in the 48th over to complete a five wicket haul from his allotted 10 overs - 5-85 after earlier taking some stick from Chris Gayle.

Mark Wood took 4-60 from his ten and was the pick of the bowlers

Chris Gayle offered big hitting resistance with a mammoth 162 in only 97 balls

Without doubt the man of the match and match winning performance was Jos Buttler's 150 off 77 balls, only being out going for another big one (and missing) in the very last over.

England lead 2-1 with the last match on Saturday (one no result)

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England have now scored four scores over 400 in the recent past, 481-6 in 2018 against Australia at Trent Bridge being their highest

Second was 444-3 in 2016 vs Pakistan at Trent Bridge in 2016

Today's 418-6 is third 

408-9 against NZ at Edgbaston in 2015 is the other

No other side has ever scored more than one total over 400

Just to put it in context.

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Was a great game to watch - comfortable win I thought at half time! :shock:

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liquidfootball2 wrote: 27 Feb 2019, 22:15 England have now scored four scores over 400 in the recent past, 481-6 in 2018 against Australia at Trent Bridge being their highest

Second was 444-3 in 2016 vs Pakistan at Trent Bridge in 2016

Today's 418-6 is third 

408-9 against NZ at Edgbaston in 2015 is the other

No other side has ever scored more than one total over 400

Just to put it in context.
Actually it’s all other sides combined who have just one 400 total (since 2015 WC).

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Ravi Ashwin has been labelled a disgrace and an embarrassment following a highly controversial run out of Josh Buttler using despicably low sharp practice.


He's brought not only buckets of acrimony on himself, and unfortunately his team, but has by his outlandishly poor behaviour brought the whole IPL tournament into serious disrepute.

The headlines are all about him, the match and tournament is forgotten

Much the same as the disgrace of sandpapergate will forever tarnish the SA AUS test series, Ashwin's diagusting action, although technically within the law, has trampled on any notion of playing within the spirit of the game.

Jos Buttler stormed off the field fuming after he was the victim of a mankad for the second time in his career as the IPL season was ignited by controversy in Jaipur.

Buttler was seemingly in control of Rajasthan Royals’s run chase when he was run out backing up by R Ashwin, the Kings XI captain. Rajasthan were 108 for one at the time but collapsed losing eight wickets for 62 to be beaten by 14 runs. The incident completely overshadowed the IPL return of Steve Smith and reopened the debate about the spirit of cricket.

It was a marginal call with question marks over whether Buttler would have been in his crease at the point of delivery if Ashwin had gone through with bowling the ball. The law was changed last year to state the batsman has to be out of his crease at the moment the bowler would be “expected to release the ball.” Buttler looked to be in his crease when Ashwin paused briefly at the point of delivery before knocking off the bails.

Buttler was furious and exchanged words with Ashwin while the third umpire adjudicated, looking at just one replay before giving the England star out for 69 off 43 balls. Buttler shouted towards the Kings XI dugout and the team coach, Paddy Upton was angry after the game.


“I think R Ashwin’s actions tonight speak for him and represent him. When I looked in the eyes of his team-mates I’m not sure if it represented them and we will leave it up to the IPL fans to decide if that is what they want to see. We will leave it up to the cricket world to judge Ashwin’s actions,” said Upton.


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Jofra Archer, Buttler’s team-mate, said the incident showed Ashwin’s desperation: “You show no confidence in yourself or your bowlers to get the job done so you resort to that.”

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Maybe needs a new thread for the world cup, but personally seems clear to me the starting team should be:

Roy
Bairstow
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Stokes
Ali
Curran
Woakes
Rashid
Archer

I'd have thought the other three would be:

Vince
Wood
Willey
Edit - and Plunkett

But apparently more likely Dawson instead of Willey. That's reasonable for the squad but surely madness to let Denly not Dawson play the last odi(s) if that is the case?

If Ali is out for any reason, Vince should be in, as Root can do the part time spinning. Similarly if Curran is not in Vince should, but would be silly to drop Curran for a batter when his batting has been quite impressive.
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Would be harsh on Willey, who has been a regular for a number of years, and proved he could bowl at the end of the innings recently so isn’t just a new ball one-trick pony.

Wood is made of glass (not sure if we can replace injured players mid-tournament?) and not sure if we need him as well as Archer. Also not sure what Dawson brings really, I’ve never been sure quite what he brings in any format...

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Wood would be the replacement if f Archer got injured. Or I guess if it was a very fast pitch you could play both.

Willey being left arm would be useful.

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So Willey's out.

Personally, I would only have picked two from three of Wood, Archer and Plunkett, based on injury record, form and queue jumping. Willey has been the one constant over the recent period, and offers something different with fast left arm and good death bowling.

And Dawson?? Why pick Denly in the series versus PAK, but not give Dawson any time in the team? Especially as Denly barely got an opportunity in those games. Dawson is a better spinner, but Denly is one of the best English batsmen in limited overs. Didn't he top the T20 runs table last season?

Ludicrous mis-management again by England.

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So England still playing too few batsmen, and still not getting enough runs. Why is it so hard for the selectors to see the correlation?

4 specialist batsmen, when the best teams had 6. Couldn't make it up.

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hancockjr wrote: 25 Jul 2019, 20:53 So England still playing too few batsmen, and still not getting enough runs. Why is it so hard for the selectors to see the correlation?

4 specialist batsmen, when the best teams had 6. Couldn't make it up.
Because we haven’t got any to pick. There aren’t even four specialist red ball batsmen worthy of the description in England.

I would give up on specialist openers now and just send nightwatchmen out first. If they see off the new ball it’s a bonus, if not there’s nothing lost really.

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Very frightening...I assume that Sibley must be under consideration....

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Yeah, I can’t believe they would seriously consider someone like Ballance, who can’t play full pitched fast bowling, to face Australia whose biggest strength is, well, full pitched fast bowling. And there’s not many other candidates standing out. I would be tempted to bring in Morgan as captain though, even if he bats at 7 or 8, take the pressure off Root and let him get back to what he does best.

Playing our county red ball cricket largely in April, May and September has destroyed a generation of potential Test batsmen. Remember 10-15 years ago when nearly every batsman or keeper we picked seemed to be getting a century on debut? Now they look all at sea and are lucky to last out a series in the side.

Our strength is all-rounders and counter-attacking players. I think we just have to accept that most of our runs will probably come from numbers 5 to 9 in the order, and make the most of that.

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What happened to Baby Boiks? Some kid who had a few good matches and then got injured?

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blahblah wrote: 26 Jul 2019, 08:06 What happened to Baby Boiks? Some kid who had a few good matches and then got injured?
Hameed? Last seen being dropped to the Lancashire 2nd XI, when averaging less than 10... think he’s recovered a bit of form this year, but it’s a long way back.

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Malan? Foakes? Ali no longer an option - number 9 batsman now.

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hancockjr wrote: 26 Jul 2019, 08:22 Malan? Foakes? Ali no longer an option - number 9 batsman now.
Malan averages in the 20s, like most of the others we’ve tried. Could pick any number of county journeymen and the result would be the same.

Foakes, well, he’s a keeper, I thought you wanted specialists... may be worth a pick ahead of Bairstow in both senses at the moment though.

On current form Moeen doesn’t merit a place with bat or ball. Leach our spinning all-rounder now? Would send an appropriate message to the “batsmen” to open with him next week!

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forestfan wrote: 26 Jul 2019, 08:19
blahblah wrote: 26 Jul 2019, 08:06 What happened to Baby Boiks? Some kid who had a few good matches and then got injured?
Hameed? Last seen being dropped to the Lancashire 2nd XI, when averaging less than 10... think he’s recovered a bit of form this year, but it’s a long way back.
Blimey he has crashed that badly?

He was hyped big style off the back of a couple of Innings.....

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Root has to show a bit of steel as captain now and bat at 3. Has to stop that 2nd and 3rd wicket falling that sends us into panic.

Stokes looks like he should now be batting 4. At the moment we have no confidence in our openers and are then chucking some sub standard number 3 in as a make weight.

1. Burns
2. Roy
3. Root
4. Stokes
5. Bairstow
6. Buttler
7. Curran
8. Woakes
9. Ali
10. Archer
11. Anderson

Would like to see that XI next week....

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Root is out of form and hates batting at 3. How to turn him into an absolute passenger, in one easy step... if anything, he could do with dropping down to 5 for a while, as well as losing the captaincy (the latter of which which he will do after an Ashes humiliation anyway).

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forestfan wrote: 26 Jul 2019, 08:19
blahblah wrote: 26 Jul 2019, 08:06 What happened to Baby Boiks? Some kid who had a few good matches and then got injured?
Hameed? Last seen being dropped to the Lancashire 2nd XI, when averaging less than 10... think he’s recovered a bit of form this year, but it’s a long way back.
He was so good in the series against India. Seemed a proper throwback test batsman.
If the grandparents rule holds, can we have him? Not that we lack test openers, but ...
Though that way, we can have the whole of Pakistan and Bangladesh (and well, even Pakistan can have Virat :D )

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forestfan wrote: 26 Jul 2019, 08:54 Root is out of form and hates batting at 3. How to turn him into an absolute passenger, in one easy step... if anything, he could do with dropping down to 5 for a while, as well as losing the captaincy (the latter of which which he will do after an Ashes humiliation anyway).
Why do I feel that YJB at 3, Root at 4, Stokes at 5 and Buttler at 6 suits all the most. (And of course, handing the WK gloves over to Buttler). Unless you are Sangakkara, you cannot bat at 3 and keep. And even Sangakkara couldn't, really.

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I'm not sure trying to rationalise England's inconsistency is worthwhile. The 81 was far more :roll:. than 😱😱😱 imho.

Just enjoy them being the 2nd most entertaining team to follow after Pakistan :lol:

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forestfan wrote: 26 Jul 2019, 08:24
hancockjr wrote: 26 Jul 2019, 08:22 Malan? Foakes? Ali no longer an option - number 9 batsman now.
Malan averages in the 20s, like most of the others we’ve tried. Could pick any number of county journeymen and the result would be the same.

Foakes, well, he’s a keeper, I thought you wanted specialists... may be worth a pick ahead of Bairstow in both senses at the moment though.

On current form Moeen doesn’t merit a place with bat or ball. Leach our spinning all-rounder now? Would send an appropriate message to the “batsmen” to open with him next week!
Foakes as wicketkeeper brings Bairstow to the role of specialist batsman.

It’s futile to say we don’t have any other batsmen - that has been said for a long while now yet we’ve just had a player score 72 on debut. We’re treating this as a glorified practice match so it’s exactly when we should blood a player. None of the World Cup players should be playing anyway.

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hancockjr wrote: 26 Jul 2019, 09:53
forestfan wrote: 26 Jul 2019, 08:24
hancockjr wrote: 26 Jul 2019, 08:22 Malan? Foakes? Ali no longer an option - number 9 batsman now.
Malan averages in the 20s, like most of the others we’ve tried. Could pick any number of county journeymen and the result would be the same.

Foakes, well, he’s a keeper, I thought you wanted specialists... may be worth a pick ahead of Bairstow in both senses at the moment though.

On current form Moeen doesn’t merit a place with bat or ball. Leach our spinning all-rounder now? Would send an appropriate message to the “batsmen” to open with him next week!
Foakes as wicketkeeper brings Bairstow to the role of specialist batsman.

It’s futile to say we don’t have any other batsmen - that has been said for a long while now yet we’ve just had a player score 72 on debut. We’re treating this as a glorified practice match so it’s exactly when we should blood a player. None of the World Cup players should be playing anyway.
I guess pick and stick with people who can score runs.
Jason Roy apparently can score runs. Sehwag and Warner have done very well in test cricket - but the thing was, they were given a long leash by the national selectors, and allowed to fail. Sometimes you will see these guys get out to an atrocious shot, but that is part of their game.
Keaton Jennings was given what, 20 tests? Roy should be given 20 tests, and at the end of them if he has 3+ hundreds, 5+ fifties and a near-40 average, you keep.
Whatever happened to Ollie Pope? Why isnt he theoretically playing against the minnows and scoring a double hundred to build up his test-level confidence?

Also, where is the spinner who can win a match (and his batting be damned)? Where is England's best match-winning spinner? Is he the 20 years old who plays for Surrey? Why does he not get a chance in this match? For the matter, I think Leach too is a fine spinner (forget his 92, it does not matter). England will win only at home (and in New Zealand) if you don't have spinners who can take wickets.

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