Total Points Benched

[raoul]

Just looked to see I managed to bench 34 pts in the past 2 weeks combined, and 138 in total for 12 weeks.

How are others doing in this regard? Feels like I have a very high score in this regard

[Zimmerman]

61 benched points (plus 24 that I have managed to benefit from for auto subs).

34 does seem a lot.
Have you got a very strong bench or just freakish occurrences?

I’ve had 12 left on the bench on 4 occasions

[raoul]

My GK rotation from week 2 to 11. Playing GK score first, bench second.

1-2
3-5
1-3
2-3
11-11
3-3
2-3
1-2
1-6
1-1
5-10

In 3 weeks it was a tie. In the other 8 weeks I am pants every time

I think I need a bench made up of non-players for my own safety...

[raoul]

61 benched points (plus 24 that I have managed to benefit from for auto subs).

34 does seem a lot.
Have you got a very strong bench or just freakish occurrences?

I’ve had 12 left on the bench on 4 occasions

my bench tends to include AWB and Bennett quite a lot, but has also had Jimenez as first sub for the past 2 weeks. But as per my last post, it is GK points benched that are killing me it seems.

[Oxford NZ]

25 points benched in the last two
97 benched in total up to GW12
No GK rotation as I had Alison / Hamer GW3 to GW10. I planned a BB this week but canceled it due to Richarlisons flag. It would have got me another 15 points if I had played it.

[RomynPG]

135 for the whole season - and I have a green arrow when <10 and a red one >=10 ... spooky

[Aldershot Rejects]

113 for the season, but I've completely emptied my non-GK bench twice this season. 35 in the last two weeks, mainly due to Hart this week and Jiminez last week.

[raoul]

so my 138 is indeed high then (based on the limited sample in the thread at least).

I suppose this is largely because of my years of TFF play. Can't stop picking people who will play, even if in most cases they won't play for me. Not so much of a problem when it is cheapies like Bennett and AWB, but my current set up has 8 playing forwards and so far all 8 are starting games and all 8 have supplied points (or are heavily tipped to do so shortly).

[phrampton534]

75 points benched just between GW4-8. Benching the wrong keeper and defenders. Hurts to think about it!!

[phrampton534]

but my current set up has 8 playing forwards and so far all 8 are starting games and all 8 have supplied points (or are heavily tipped to do so shortly).

Gud./Rich/Sigs. -> Hojbjerg, Mane -> Sterling/Hazard problem solved!!?

[MoSe]

1. for once.... shouldn't this belong in the main FPL forum?
(as opposed to all topics regarding one's own team which have to be moved from Main FPL to this RMT subforum)
 
 
 

so my 138 is indeed high then (based on the limited sample in the thread at least).

2. you you want a larger sample, Mav3rick's GRID tool https://ratemyteam.uk/Fiso/GRID ,designed to help sidegame admins to gather their sidegame teams data,
has several sections to cater for hypothetical game format needs, including a PB one

you can find the online file link for Divisionals sidegame at the top of its topic viewtopic.php?f=82&t=128813
there in the rightmost GRID tab you can find updated data for a 133-teams strong sample

scroll down to find GW POINTS ON BENCH (rows by GW, cols by team ID) and further down OVERALL POINTS ON BENCH with the running totals by GW
currently after GW12 Divisionals 133 teams have average Total PB of 73.3, min 21 max 131 (your 138 would indeed be highest in that sample, and by some)

3. you can feed the GRID yourself with any team ID list (comma separated, no blanks, no trailing linebreak)
I just verified now, the Divisionals 133 IDs took about 30s now to produce (Mav had to artificially SLOW it down, as this season FPL introduced a request throttling limit!!! )
you might need to kick 2 or 3 attempts in case the tool returns you error (FPL fault), and you could ease it by breaking the list in smaller chunks
 
 

I know Tacalabala uses the GRID for his sidegames (it was his design, and then he asked Mav to implement the tool when FPL made .iqy excel queries unusable)
although he dosen't share the guts'n'bits of his tables
and I think TalkieToaster adopted it for FISO H2H leagues (6 divisions of 20 teams) and maybe for his excellent Swiss Cup too (132 teams)
(whilst RPG fetches only the data he needs for his 5AS 160 teams with his own developed Java scripts/functions)
without opening their engine hoods, they might have a peek in their grids and share the gross PB stats from their game as I did above (a good part of the teams might the same, playing in more than one game)

[ajcairns]

114 for me with an eye-watering 26 a few weeks ago which was also my only red arrow of the season.

[MoSe]

BTW I have 72p total PB (I'm not in the Divisionals sample), with a high of 17p in GW1 (!) and a 2nd high of 8p twice in GW8 & 12
minimum 2p and twice 3p
no visible correlation between my PB and the color of my arrows, so RPG might indeed be onto something in this team

As AR pointed out, the bigger sample might be biased by autosubs and BB chip
- in your history page, PB are the FINAL PB, i.e. after autosubs
  ► in case of a sub, the points are taken out of PB and the 0p who didn't play is counted for your bench
- also, when a team plays BB his PB are listed as 0

PS: I didn't try to feed the GRID with the Forum League over 1.3k ID (and I know a bit more non-leaguers, maybe up to 1.4k), as it could take several minutes and I fear it could be prone to errors and timeouts
I have all such data stored gw by gw tho (thanks to another Mav developed data aggregator for a league https://ratemyteam.uk/Fiso/SideGameData/14226/12 )
and if I can find time I might consolidate it and share it

[MoSe]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... RYY_HRLG8o

1381 teams

1321 are in the Forum League
  682 Fiso owners are known (regardless in our League or not)

total PB avg 77.9p, max 185
avg % of OP 11.4%, max 27.95%

FREQUENCY (how many teams for each total PB value)

FISO 18-19 Points on Bench GW12 - Frequency.png

the curve is not a true gaussian (bell-curve), it's an x^6 polynomial regression, off-the-shelf in excel
  
 
 
SCATTER (total PB vs OP for each team)

FISO 18-19 Points on Bench GW12 - Scatter vs OP.gif

(the red X is raoul)

[MoSe]

PS: team names in the file, if not in the Forum League might be not up to date

[Aldershot Rejects]

Interesting, to there is little correlation between total pts and benched points.

Is there a case for separating out GK pts benched and outfield pts benched? There are two distinct tactics in play with GKs, rotation and a non-playing GK - one will obviously have much lower bench than the other. To counter myself, I guess the same is true to some extent with outfield players with some picking a very weak bench and focusing their money on the starting 11 and others having much more cover on the bench.

[wonkypenguin]

50 total over the 12 GWs

[wonkypenguin]

Does that graph show two players with 180+ points benched so far this season? Yikes! Thats almost as many points as I have scored

[MoSe]

yes indeed, in the link above the graphs you find a google sheet with all the details, PB by gw and team IDs
185 PB https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/ent ... 08/history many came from Pickford (Wilson, Doherty, AWB...) once he benched Fabianski he got 11p! lol
180 PB https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/ent ... 33/history that's PNE4PREM fiso username

also notable https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/ent ... 24/history
who got 4.0m GK and 2 defs, and a 4.5m fwd on loan to QPR all season, and left them on bench never getting a single point (or minute) from them
unexplicable the GW6 transfer from Schelotto to Suttner, after both had already fallen to 3.9m, so he didn't even scrape 0.1m from it
he has less than 600 OP anyway, he allocated the most possible budget in his XI but evidently not making the optimal choices with it
 
 
 

Is there a case for separating out GK pts benched and outfield pts benched?

alas that's not a task for me, AR.
The data in GW History and fetched with Mav's tool does not separate bench info by positions....

viewtopic.php?p=3106984#p3106984
FPL does provide the lineup info in their drf pages/files

• for instance for a team and GW (your team GW12)
  https://fantasy.premierleague.com/drf/e ... t/12/picks
  and cross-referencing it with players info ("elements") you can reconstruct the single benched players and points
  https://fantasy.premierleague.com/drf/elements or
  https://fantasy.premierleague.com/drf/event/12/live for a GW scores and items (search for "elements", players info starts there: "1", "2", "3" etc. IDs)
  anyone could even look into it in more readable form with a JS viewer tool https://jsoneditoronline.org/

but to gather all that data in a table for a big set of teams, and all GWs,
and separate the data by fpl player positions G D M F and eventually bench position (1,2,3 or rather 13 14 15) and whether there were autosubs or BB played,
is a task for our resident developers, that's beyond me

[Bixer]

Only 32 so far this season, so not too bad. Only week I ever had more than 5 was in GW1, when Wan-Bissaka's 12 contributed to the 14 I left on the bench that week.

Majority of weeks though I've either had between 0-3 points.

[FP1990]

If my maths is correct 143 for me. Bad times.

[dod]

91 but that includes 26 in GW1 when I benched Schlupp and AWB but played PVA, Mendy and Robertson so I was never going to be getting those pts anyway. My Foster/Patricio rotation started well but I've had a couple of hiccups lately. Overall I've picked the right GK 9 out of 12 times.

I don't think benching pts is a necessarily a bad thing. If I can't have the pts in my team i'd rather they were on my bench rather than somebody else's. At least I benefit from price rises/avoiding drops.

[blahblah]

I'm not looking after the GW1 Fiasco when I had pondered the BB preseason but forgot about in the last few days or week

[gio]

102 here. My worst week was a totsl of 32 points for my first eleven and 18 points in the bench

[Lorenz94]

24 points between Wan-Bissaka and Neves only in GW 1
Around 150 in total I think

[SneakyOne]

49 in total after a quick look, I played my BB GW1 which netted me my highest bench points of 14 (so far).

[Vincent Black Shadow]

55 benched points.