Salah/Mane vs. Hazard

[ZeroRemorse]

Sterling deserves a mention too.

[goooner]

Salah isn't in form but is still scoring at a consistent rate, he's still the most threatening and creative player in the league statistically, his shot conversation rate is only at 10% which is bound to improve.

Hazard just had 1 shot in the box yesterday vs Bournemouth at home and scored. Looks in better form though and is on pens.

Tough call, but I think I'll stick it out with Salah in the thought that he will hit some form soon with those stats.


Salah stats

Goals 2
Assists 2
Shots 19
Chances created 13

Goal conversion 10.5%

Goal conversion last season
22%

Salah v Mane
Salah stats first

Goals 2 v 4
Assists 2 v 0
Shots 19 v 10
Chances created 13 v 6
Goal conversion 10.5% v 40%
Goal conversion last season 22% v 14%

Isnt that just a matter of time until Salah starts scoring more? He sure seems to be the man.

[ZeroRemorse]

Yes, I think so. He's definitely out of form at the moment, but that won't last. There's no way he will continue to be as wasteful as he has been.

[IceCreamFirm]

Stuck on this I want Hazard and don’t feel like I can drop Salah or Mane. With Mendy Robertson Alonso Aguero I have to downgrade someone I don’t want to lose.

DDG > 4.5 is almost a cert so I could afford Mane > Hazard but don’t know if it’s worth it.

[Britinus]

Have Salah but thinking of a 4 point hit to bring in Hazard especially after tonights game. Chelsea at home to Pool and then Southampton while Liverpool away to Chelsea and then City.
worth the swap?

[Pulpy]

Salah still looks very threatening and the goals will come but an early subbing and the fact he is yet to register a single bonus point this season don't bode well for a near 13 million investment.

It could also be argued that the likes of Vardy, Willian, Son, Sane and Sterling now offer upgrades elsewhere to re distribute the funds.

Tempted to lose him for Mane this week on my wildcard.

[blahblah]

Being the 1st one off when they needed a goal iced the cake of his departure for me.

Maddison rose last night, and Kane will soon?

[ZeroRemorse]

Still got Salah and sitting in the top 20k, I honestly just don't see a need to move him now with the easy fixtures coming up and the argument the money can be spent elsewhere isn't that convincing either since there are great budget options this season, I tinkered a bit without him and really didn't think the team was that much better or the money was being put to better use. If he doesn't fire after HUD, Cardiff and Fulham, then I will get rid of him, but so far he's really not been a problem for my team.

[PSA]

What are people doing with if you still have Salah and don’t have Hazard?

The last month has really opened he gap between those who stuck with Salah.

[Stu255]

I plan to get Salah in after next week.

[Resonare]

It's pretty ridiculous that Hazard has managed to score twice as many points as Salah and Mane combined since GW5, especially when comparing his stats to Salah's. In fact, Hazard's over-performance is so great that he'd break Salah's PL goal record at this rate

[Stu255]

Not long now and a £4m Crystal Palace defender will have higher ownership than Salah.

Who saw that coming?

[ZeroRemorse]

It's pretty ridiculous that Hazard has managed to score twice as many points as Salah and Mane combined since GW5, especially when comparing his stats to Salah's. In fact, Hazard's over-performance is so great that he'd break Salah's PL goal record at this rate

That's kinda expected when Liverpool have played Spurs, Chelsea and City.

[Resonare]

That's kinda expected when Liverpool have played Spurs, Chelsea and City.

Not at all, but you're clearly one of those people who just look at the fixture and nothing else

[blahblah]

Eden is Chelsea's main way of scoring and they look set for at least a solid 3rd, while Liverpool's goals will be spread about....

[abuhaneefah]

That's kinda expected when Liverpool have played Spurs, Chelsea and City.

Not at all, but you're clearly one of those people who just look at the fixture and nothing else

Other factors like Tough Champions league games with PSG and Napoli in the same time frame you mean?

[Resonare]

Eden is Chelsea's main way of scoring and they look set for at least a solid 3rd, while Liverpool's goals will be spread about....

That's interesting...

Hazard has 7 goals despite having an xG of 3.79.

Salah has 3 goals despite having an xG of 5.91.

How does spreading out goals apply to over-performance?

[blahblah]

All that tells me is that an average finisher would have 6 goals from Salah's chances and 4 from Eden's.

But then Eden doesn't get many tap ins?

[Resonare]

Have you actually looked at Hazard's conversion rate? It's not sustainable. Trying to use the argument that he's a better finisher doesn't work because then you also have to put him above players like Aguero and Vardy.

He is overperforming, simple as.

[jack1092]

I do think Hazard will score more freely under Sarri. It's partly a guess i won't lie, but if you look at Mertens improvement under Sarri numbers-wise you'd expect a upturn for Hazard as well. Years have gone by where Hazard hasn't performed to his abilities in my opinion (not FPL-wise) but this will be his year. Does that mean he will out perform Salah? Not necessarily, but he will have more advantages in his favour.

The team is purely focused on Hazard, whereas, LFC have more of a spread. The CL fixtures LFC have had have meant resting a front player has been harder, whilst Hazard gets a Europa League rest as he's "tired". Don't get me wrong Vs Red Star...there will be more of a chance of Shaqiri will play instead of one of the front men.

Hazard has the hard next few months ahead fixtures-wise, however, he will probably be fresh for them all, as he won't play midweek.

I have Hazard, and i also have banked the funds to maybe get Salah in now the fixtures have turned, however, it's still up in the air...

[raoul]

Captain Obvious alert.

Describe the ideal players to fill your front 8:

- presses forward
- scoring goals now
- confidence level high for player
- and same for team
- team tactics are not parking a bus
- top team likely to score almost every game
- not much competition from colleagues re goals
- fully fit
- set pieces and pens

Some forgiveness on the above if price is cheap. But only if money tight.

Hazard ticks every box right now. If Morata continues his hot scoring streak (...) then maybe a minor flag appears.

Laca ticks most perhaps all if Auba not a guaranteed starter. Richarlison ticks a few. Aguero has fitness, rotation and competition for goals issues but still ranks highly. Question marks over many others.

My rather amateur analysis method makes Murray look a steal. If Wolves scored a few more goals Jimenez too.

Hazard is currently miles ahead in my opinion. And for now I see little chance of his boxes unticking.

[ZeroRemorse]

That's kinda expected when Liverpool have played Spurs, Chelsea and City.

Not at all, but you're clearly one of those people who just look at the fixture and nothing else

Not at all, if I was one of those people, Salah would simply not be in my team at the moment, but it's clearly a factor in a players haul potential. Only a fool would think it's as easy to score vs Chelsea/City/Spurs than it is to the likes of Cardiff, Huddersfield, Bournemouth

[Resonare]

That's kinda expected when Liverpool have played Spurs, Chelsea and City.

Not at all, but you're clearly one of those people who just look at the fixture and nothing else

Not at all, if I was one of those people, Salah would simply not be in my team at the moment, but it's clearly a factor in a players haul potential. Only a fool would think it's as easy to score vs Chelsea/City/Spurs than it is to the likes of Cardiff, Huddersfield, Bournemouth

Then your words don't match your actions. If Salah is expected to blank in those 3 as you said in your first post (which he isn't BTW, check his expected scores on FFS or FFFix) then why do you still have him in your team then?

[ZeroRemorse]

Because he had SOTON between them?

[Smurphy Paw]

I’ve just spotted that Mané is injured. Broken thumb.
Do you think this’ll keep him out? For how long?

[raoul]

https://kopend.rollingstreet.com/2018/1 ... cal-staff/

I know nothing of the reliability of this as a source, but if true it appears that Salah (and Milner!) are available for Huddersfield. Whether Klopp would play them is another matter perhaps.

[No Way Jose]

https://kopend.rollingstreet.com/2018/1 ... cal-staff/

I know nothing of the reliability of this as a source, but if true it appears that Salah (and Milner!) are available for Huddersfield. Whether Klopp would play them is another matter perhaps.

Yeah fit doesn’t mean guaranteed to play but hopefully mane being out (surprising from a Physio perspective) makes salah more likely to play

[blahblah]

Falling to that side could make it worse if the protection doesn't hold up?

Also it is a good excuse to bench the selfish get?

[wonkypenguin]

I’ve just spotted that Mané is injured. Broken thumb.
Do you think this’ll keep him out? For how long?

As he isn't a goalkeeper, I'd expect him to play this weekend!

[Finisher1]

I’ve just spotted that Mané is injured. Broken thumb.
Do you think this’ll keep him out? For how long?

As he isn't a goalkeeper, I'd expect him to play this weekend!

What makes you think he can play with a broken thumb? Perhaps he can, but I'm just curious why you are so convinced.