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um09a2k wrote: 18 Jul 2018, 22:03 Jorginho has been added for only 5.0 :o :o

Definitely on the watchlist for pre-season. Has a good relationship with Sarri while at Napoli and was described by Sarri as a technical player, not physical. So hopefully he plays in front of Kante as a playmaker.
A massive swerve looks in order to me - from what I've read he'll play as the very deepest midfielder, just in front of the back 4 - bagan found a good article here - additionally, he's scored 2 league goals total in 5 seasons for Napoli!

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Wonder if they will sell Kante

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Kante just as important to the system, playing as the box to box mid I'd have thought. Unless Bakayoko is reborn.


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I always think of Kante as more Makele than Gerrard.

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Stemania wrote: 19 Jul 2018, 00:04 Unless Bakayoko is reborn.

As what? A professional footballer? :lol:

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Baker of Yoko records?

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Stemania wrote: 18 Jul 2018, 22:40
um09a2k wrote: 18 Jul 2018, 22:03 Jorginho has been added for only 5.0 :o :o

Definitely on the watchlist for pre-season. Has a good relationship with Sarri while at Napoli and was described by Sarri as a technical player, not physical. So hopefully he plays in front of Kante as a playmaker.
A massive swerve looks in order to me - from what I've read he'll play as the very deepest midfielder, just in front of the back 4 - bagan found a good article here - additionally, he's scored 2 league goals total in 5 seasons for Napoli!
I disagree and agree :lol: Although you are right about him being the deepest midfielder and on his goal stats etc I DONT think he's a massive swerve and here's why:
The deep midfielders arent going to score Eriksen points but they arent priced to. Jorginho is so pivotal to Sarri's 433 high press he was a condition of coming as manager - so is likely to be as nailed on as there is in the Chelsea side. Couple that with Napoli having had one of their highest scoring seasons ever and Jorginho is likely to score more than Kante this term; and Kante was the highest scoring 5.0m MF last season. He could be a very useful 4th/5th Mid.

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Kante himself is still 5.0m, and is likely to score more than Jorginho imo. For example, in the last few years, comparing Jorginho to Allan (the Kante-style ball winning box-to-box-er in Sarri's system at Napoli) in the league they mustered

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Jorginho 2 goals 4 assists
Allan 4 goals 5 assists

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Allan 1 goal, 5 assists

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Jorginho 0 goals, 4 assists
Allan 3 goals 5 assists

So in terms of the Chelsea 5m guys, I'd say Kante is potentially the one to watch - an emulation of Allan's numbers really would be good value for 5.0m incidentally!

Though it's the more expensive third 'Hamsik role' CM/ACM that really could be the gold-dust pick, Golovin/Fab/RLC, whoever gets it. :D

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I haven't paid any attention to Napoli....

Jorgieboy flounced around the pitch being given the ball by Allan, and then passes to the Assister?

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Jameselaprendi wrote: 18 Jul 2018, 21:19
No Way Jose wrote: 18 Jul 2018, 01:41 anyone know much about armstrong?

He’s a class act.
Maturity, composure, intelligence, great hair!

Something between an 8 and a 10. Good vision, able to pick a pass to unlock a defence. Can also play the flanks and deliver quality crosses. Likes to score from the edge of the box, I’d like to say his shooting accuracy is above average - but I think he main thing is he always seem to pick a good option, so seems less wasteful than most.

He’s maybe a bit understated, not particularly explosive - but he has a good engine. Dependable and consistent - the sort of player a manager will trust - if he gets the nod he’ll stay in the team all year. Had an injury last year that kept him out, before that he’d become one of the first names on Celtic team sheet had been signed as a fringe player.

I wish he’d been priced at £5m, he’d have been straight in my team case closed. I’d say He’ll be worth the £5.5m anyway. Would expect him to get 6-8 goals and same again in assists.
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No Way Jose wrote: 19 Jul 2018, 11:00
Jameselaprendi wrote: 18 Jul 2018, 21:19
No Way Jose wrote: 18 Jul 2018, 01:41 anyone know much about armstrong?

He’s a class act.
Maturity, composure, intelligence, great hair!

Something between an 8 and a 10. Good vision, able to pick a pass to unlock a defence. Can also play the flanks and deliver quality crosses. Likes to score from the edge of the box, I’d like to say his shooting accuracy is above average - but I think he main thing is he always seem to pick a good option, so seems less wasteful than most.

He’s maybe a bit understated, not particularly explosive - but he has a good engine. Dependable and consistent - the sort of player a manager will trust - if he gets the nod he’ll stay in the team all year. Had an injury last year that kept him out, before that he’d become one of the first names on Celtic team sheet had been signed as a fringe player.

I wish he’d been priced at £5m, he’d have been straight in my team case closed. I’d say He’ll be worth the £5.5m anyway. Would expect him to get 6-8 goals and same again in assists.
Thanks legend. One to think about! I’m on delofeu so far
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Stemania wrote: 19 Jul 2018, 10:17 Kante himself is still 5.0m, and is likely to score more than Jorginho imo. For example, in the last few years, comparing Jorginho to Allan (the Kante-style ball winning box-to-box-er in Sarri's system at Napoli) in the league they mustered

17/18
Jorginho 2 goals 4 assists
Allan 4 goals 5 assists

16/17
Jorginho 0 goals, 3 assists
Allan 1 goal, 5 assists

15/16
Jorginho 0 goals, 4 assists
Allan 3 goals 5 assists

So in terms of the Chelsea 5m guys, I'd say Kante is potentially the one to watch - an emulation of Allan's numbers really would be good value for 5.0m incidentally!

Though it's the more expensive third 'Hamsik role' CM/ACM that really could be the gold-dust pick, Golovin/Fab/RLC, whoever gets it. :D
Good point, though some rumours of PSG sniffing. Then there's William at 7.5m to play in front of Kante (Sarri likes a 433) in a possibly Hazard less side (Set pieces?). There could be some value in Chelsea this season - be interesting to see the pre season line ups.

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Watford tend to start strong and the fixtures seem to suggest they'll do it again this season. Doucoure and Delofeu are the two I'm eyeing atm, but the .5 proves to be critical in my drafts so I'm leaning toward the latter.

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What's that Hojbjerg chap from Southampton like?

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Stemania wrote: 19 Jul 2018, 10:17 Though it's the more expensive third 'Hamsik role' CM/ACM that really could be the gold-dust pick, Golovin/Fab/RLC, whoever gets it. :D
This! Totally agree with that, will be interesting to see who they sign or whether they stay internal

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cymbalrush84 wrote: 19 Jul 2018, 21:45 What's that Hojbjerg chap from Southampton like?
In and out of the team. This season I'd predict more out than in. 0 goals or assists last two seasons. Steer clear unless he starts playing in an attacking midfield role regularly.

I like Ralls at 5mn as he's on pens apparently. Though I wouldn't be surprised if he's not in which case he's poor value imo, even at 5mn.

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Sutter Kane wrote: 20 Jul 2018, 07:45
I like Ralls at 5mn as he's on pens apparently. Though I wouldn't be surprised if he's not in which case he's poor value imo, even at 5mn.
I think the new forward was on pens for Bristol City last year, so not sure if Ralls will continue

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In terms of Wolves I think Costa is the best value. Neves is very popular but plays very deep. Jota will likely score more but is £1.5m more expensive. Costa for me.

ATM I'm looking at 3 premium mids with 2 cheap mids who can rotate. 3-4-3 or 4-3-3 formation

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Ricardo81 wrote: 21 Jul 2018, 21:07 In terms of Wolves I think Costa is the best value. Neves is very popular but plays very deep. Jota will likely score more but is £1.5m more expensive. Costa for me.

ATM I'm looking at 3 premium mids with 2 cheap mids who can rotate. 3-4-3 or 4-3-3 formation
Im contemplating Costa as well
saw something on twitter from a FPL writer and Wolves season ticket holder who rates Costa highly

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Anyone know much about Danny Ward for Cardiff? he looks like an OOP striker classed as a 4.5m?

Seemed to be a regular for Cardiff last year before missing the second half of the season with an injury. Back now and scored 4 goals in two pre season games.

Any reason why I shouldn't pick him as my 5th mid?

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I'm no Cardiff expert, but going on his appearances on football lineups, he's more a sub than a starter for Cardiff.

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Mav3rick wrote: 22 Jul 2018, 10:03 I'm no Cardiff expert, but going on his appearances on football lineups, he's more a sub than a starter for Cardiff.
yes, looks like you might be right - thats a very handy website, hadn't seen that before - looks like he might be back up for Kenneth Zohore and/or Bobby Reid but might squeeze in on the left of a front three.....or might just stay on the bench.....will watch over the rest of pre-season but there are quite a few "mights" to get past yet...

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My guess is zahore up front ward and Reid either side but it's a guess, Madine is a big fella but not very good imo

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Billy Bongo wrote: 22 Jul 2018, 11:16 My guess is zahore up front ward and Reid either side but it's a guess, Madine is a big fella but not very good imo

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I remember when Claudio Ranieri said he had Danny Drinkwater in MIdfield with N'Golo Kante either side :lol:

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Snodgrass would fit into this price bracket, providing he moves to somewhere like Cardiff or Brighton. Might be worth a gander.

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Any love for Kenedy? A decent attacking asset for Newcastle last season, established in the Premier league now, with a steady manager, and at 5m a perfect 4th mid?

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They start with:
TOT H
CAR A
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MCY A
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CPL A
LEI H
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So maybe a 2 GW punt then out until CP, otherwise wait of this lot, which is next:
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BobMem wrote: 25 Jul 2018, 21:57 Any love for Kenedy? A decent attacking asset for Newcastle last season, established in the Premier league now, with a steady manager, and at 5m a perfect 4th mid?
There's has been yeah, dino posted about him. I think he's a great pick, but there will always be a debate about a 8th attacker over base price.

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From my point of view Cairney and Hughes are the stand out between 4.5-5.5. There's a great wolves guide on reddit from a season ticket holder who says dispite being good value costa is a rotation risk and due to potential for oop jota is the best bet. But since he's technically out of this price range I won't go into detail here.

Ciarney is effectively their Gross from what I've read online and even if he gets half the returns he's worth the investment. He's also on all set pieces I believe?

Hughes had promising returns from his limited game time last year and if he stays fit and can continue that form will be great value. At 0.5 less than Deulofeu I think he'll be the more consistent of the two and that 0.5 can go a long way.

Additionally for those planning an early WC for returning world cup players they rotate quite well early on.

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It might be worth watching Adama Diakhaby. He scored 2 goals for Monaco last season despite only having 10 starts and is now at Huddersfield. He is a left winger but apparently can also play up front. Listed as a midfielder at just £5m and could have some attacking threat if he gets regular game time.

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