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A forum for general discussion on Gardening issues and topics
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Photography
A forum for Photography discussion.
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FISO Super/Mini Leagues & Side Games 18/19 onwards

Last post by Malrom « 03 Aug 2023, 13:38
Posted in FISO 'Champion of Champions'
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by Vid » 29 Jul 2018, 16:57 » in FISO 'Champion of Champions'
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A reminder to everyone regarding the Forum Rules regarding Leagues and Side Games, especially where cash and/ or prizes are involved!

FPL - ML &...

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and there is also:

FISO Goals! Season 2023/24 Open for entries!

The fixtures are now entered and available to predict!

Admin will put up a...
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03 Aug 2023, 13:38
FISO Forum Rules

Last post by Vid « 16 Aug 2020, 11:01
Posted in FISO Forum News
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by Vid » 10 Jan 2014, 09:52 » in FISO Forum News

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Forum Rules – updated 10th January 2014

These rules supersede the previous Forum Etiquette and come into force immediately and are linked to...

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FPL's 2020-21 T&CS has included this new rule

12. Players (and Players on behalf of others and organisations) can establish mini-leagues in...

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UK SIC Codes?

Last post by Mystery « 29 Apr 2011, 16:40
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by Richt » 26 Apr 2011, 16:02

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Does anyone have a free PDF version to hand? (Or know where I can get one this afternoon/evening)?

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Look up SIC codes at the web site of the Jersey (or Guernsey - can't remember which) Financial Services Commission.

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Last post by Mystery
29 Apr 2011, 16:40
A problem with the boss

Last post by stuboy « 31 Mar 2011, 01:05
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by Shaggy365 » 05 Apr 2009, 12:05
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As some of you may or may not know, I was made redundant at the end of the year. I was very lucky and managed to get another job as finance manager...

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Must be a great feeling being able to look back now and realise you did the right thing. At least this wasn't your mess and you've now found an...
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Last post by stuboy
31 Mar 2011, 01:05
New Job - Pay/Holiday questions

Last post by Chuck Taylor « 29 Mar 2011, 16:09
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by Chuck Taylor » 17 Mar 2011, 08:41

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Hi all,

Started a new job about 4 weeks ago (22nd Feb to be exact)

My first pay packet should have only been for a weeks work (4 days plus...

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sorry missed these replies

Is there an experienced colleague you can ask?

that would be the site manager who as I said has said its 28 including...

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Last post by Chuck Taylor
29 Mar 2011, 16:09
Salary Expectations

Last post by SamD « 24 Mar 2011, 11:42
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by CanaryYellow » 23 Mar 2011, 18:45

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What do you answer if someone asks for salary expectations?

I do a job that less than 100 people in England probably do so i cant really find out...

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Salary is a key factor when accepting a job, of course, but look also to the future. Some people might start at a good wage but then go without a...

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24 Mar 2011, 11:42
Being over experienced for a role?

Last post by Richt « 17 Mar 2011, 20:32
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by Richt » 09 Mar 2011, 20:36
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Evening Gents (and ladies), maybe a bit late posting this, but I have a few concerns about a 2nd interview that I have tomorrow (all day trial day,...

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I'm at least 20 years away from retiring so hopefully something will come up before then! :shock:

Its bad times in the Groomy household though...
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Last post by Richt
17 Mar 2011, 20:32
Growth sectors

Last post by Tacalabala « 13 Mar 2011, 15:20
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by Tacalabala » 13 Mar 2011, 14:54

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I know this is going to sound incredibly naive, but does anyone know, or know where to find info regarding to biggest growth sector in the economy? I...

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I think manufacturing is on the way up again, if that helps?

Really? I thought we didn't make anything any more :lol:

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Last post by Tacalabala
13 Mar 2011, 15:20
law degree - work experience

Last post by Tom QC « 04 Mar 2011, 13:06
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by tardelli » 17 Mar 2010, 20:06

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Hi guys, hoping some of you bright sparks out there are able to help me.

Girlfriend is currently in her last year of her law degree and is looking...

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How's she doing? Assuming you're still together. I work in medical law.

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Last post by Tom QC
04 Mar 2011, 13:06
Becoming a Driving Instructor

Last post by Digsby « 27 Feb 2011, 08:04
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by Digsby » 16 Jan 2008, 10:07
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With the arrival of young Digsby jnr 2, the need has arrived for some extra money in the Digsby household. Mrs Digs will not be going back to work as...

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Question for Digsby (or anyone who may know)

Mate has just failed his test.

Says he was asked to turn right and put indicator on. Moved slightly...
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27 Feb 2011, 08:04
Vacancy for a Senior PR Account Director

Last post by Richt « 18 Feb 2011, 10:48

by Richt » 18 Feb 2011, 10:48

Vacancy for a Senior PR Account Director in the South West. Upto £40pa onclick= window.open(this.href);return false; #jobs #wiltshirejobs

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18 Feb 2011, 10:48
Furniture sprayer / finisher required

Last post by Richt « 16 Feb 2011, 17:52
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by Richt » 16 Feb 2011, 16:51

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Job is in North Wiltshire pm for details, should anyone be actually interest in it. Not sure FISO is really working for these ads :lol:

SALARY =...

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I am honoured that people have replied to the post, a lot more than usual :lol:

If anyone knows of anyone suited then I am sure I could make it...

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Last post by Richt
16 Feb 2011, 17:52
Vacancy for an experienced Cabinet Maker

Last post by blahblah « 15 Feb 2011, 15:10
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by Richt » 15 Feb 2011, 15:06

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apply within

Job description - Cabinet Maker

My client is looking to recruit an experienced Cabinet Maker for a successful business, specialising...

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Try Tony Blair?

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Last post by blahblah
15 Feb 2011, 15:10
IT Hardware internal sales executive vacancy in Swindon.

Last post by Richt « 09 Feb 2011, 12:46

by Richt » 09 Feb 2011, 12:46

An enthusiastic Sales person with self motivation to work as part of a small team developing new business within a computer hardware company….Product...

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Last post by Richt
09 Feb 2011, 12:46
Employment Law Advice

Last post by Groomyd « 04 Feb 2011, 19:29
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by Alchemist » 04 Feb 2011, 18:47

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Anybody shed any light on the following scenario re legality.....

Company hires Team Leader A
Company hires Technician B who reports to Team Leader...

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Are the companies actions legal?

Yes. But they need to apply it equitably.

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Last post by Groomyd
04 Feb 2011, 19:29
Vacancy = Internal Sales Exec (North Wilts / Gloucestershire

Last post by Richt « 31 Jan 2011, 16:41

by Richt » 31 Jan 2011, 16:41

apply within

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31 Jan 2011, 16:41
Any antqiues experts? Anywhere to get a free valuation?

Last post by SUZYKINS « 19 Jan 2011, 11:54
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by Chrisharry12345 » 16 Jan 2011, 17:24

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need some help finding how much something is worth that was given to us... Its called a 'Lubcrication and Friction Machine' by R.M Deeley

The only...

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cheers ray, there the sort I want to get in touch with :)
onclick= window.open(this.href);return false;
Birmingham or Yorkshire might be best...

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Last post by SUZYKINS
19 Jan 2011, 11:54
Project manager - Tablets expert required - BBC job

Last post by quizking « 06 Jan 2011, 16:27

by quizking » 06 Jan 2011, 16:27

Friend of mine is hiring;

onclick= window.open(this.href);return false;

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06 Jan 2011, 16:27
Female Business Traveller

Last post by stuboy « 04 Jan 2011, 09:46

by stuboy » 04 Jan 2011, 09:46

The lovely Mrs stuboy to be, has just started a new business and was hoping you would be able to send this link to as many females as you know.

It's...

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Last post by stuboy
04 Jan 2011, 09:46
Tutoring in a House Conversation - is it ok ?

Last post by grob « 19 Dec 2010, 22:07
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by The Bear » 18 Dec 2010, 19:39

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Ive got a friends who owns a Flat in a House Conversation - does 3 hours tutoring every evening and prob 4/5 hours on sat and sun!
Doesnt have a good...

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Sorry let me clarify - its a house which has been coverted into 3 flats .
What im asking is if you tutor for say 30hours aweeks is that a problem...

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Last post by grob
19 Dec 2010, 22:07
Graphic artist required

Last post by MarquisMark « 12 Dec 2010, 13:04
Replies: 9
by AKNel1 » 29 Nov 2010, 21:27

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Basically, I am starting work on a project for a Sports comic. I have found a company willing to publish a bumper summer special for 2011 with a view...

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yeah good shout, or even funnily enough your local Gumtree may yield results

or as a long shot freelancer.co.uk

no joy from this end. was awaiting...

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Last post by MarquisMark
12 Dec 2010, 13:04
17 years of working nightshift.....

Last post by Beerfuelledman « 03 Dec 2010, 19:22
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by The Elkmaster » 18 Jul 2010, 23:26

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....and I start on dayshift in the morning :shock:
What a change to the system this is going to be, sleeping with the wife for 7 nights a week.

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40hrs per week. 8-4 & 14-22. One weekend on a month. Rostered On Call 7 times in 4 weeks. Add another 3 for overtime & covering others being off....

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Last post by Beerfuelledman
03 Dec 2010, 19:22
Vacancy for an experienced Web Developer

Last post by MarquisMark « 02 Dec 2010, 13:54
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by Richt » 30 Nov 2010, 16:41

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Good web developers required. Must have experience of OO Php, mysql and hopefully zend.

Salary between £23k and £35k pa (depending one experience)....

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Afraid not - I don't think they've invented an ethernet cable long enough to stretch that far yet - unless you boys have finally got you own...

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Last post by MarquisMark
02 Dec 2010, 13:54
Would you really put this on your CV?

Last post by Richt « 02 Dec 2010, 11:57
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by Richt » 02 Dec 2010, 10:00

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Other Information

i play rugby for a local rugby club at a resonable level i ply for XXXXXXX i enjoy going to the gym with mates and having a good...

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I might be exaggerating when I say they are far from ethical, but definitely some tactics that you wouldn't want to use......

I'll give you one...

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Last post by Richt
02 Dec 2010, 11:57
Claiming Benefits Query

Last post by MarquisMark « 02 Dec 2010, 11:14
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by MarquisMark » 02 Dec 2010, 08:53

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Forgive the lack of details - I am just going off a conversation in memory, and I'm not sure I've been passed the right info!

My uncle made a...

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the way its going at the minute his claim will never get through :D

he just wanted a few weeks to ease the pressure, but seems as tho by being...

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Last post by MarquisMark
02 Dec 2010, 11:14
Accountancy Recruitment

Last post by Richt « 24 Nov 2010, 21:37
Replies: 11
by The Bear » 25 Aug 2010, 10:03

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Not my area but I know Accountants seemingly make the best FF players so there are loads on Fiso!

My cousin has just come back from 3 months...

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I am a recruitment consultant, for an independent firm. You are much better off using an independent as they tend to have access to more jobs.

PM me...

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Last post by Richt
24 Nov 2010, 21:37
Give me some interesting career ideas!

Last post by scribbles « 24 Nov 2010, 18:05
Replies: 19
by tommymooney » 05 Feb 2008, 21:05

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I'm 30, been working for about 9 years in a variety of public sector jobs including audit (gave up when I failed the accountancy exams), Business...

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You seem unmotivated at best, and lazy at worst. You can decide for yourself which you are, but neither is attractive to prospective employers;...

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Last post by scribbles
24 Nov 2010, 18:05
Photography

Last post by The Womble « 30 Sep 2010, 17:41
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by AKNel1 » 30 Sep 2010, 16:37

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My youngest has just started studying Photography as one of his GCSE's (I know, crazy huh). Anyway, he's going to need a 'proper' Camera, however, me...

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If it is a digital SLR then a second hand one is definately the way

These days the major companies upgrade all the time and a top of the range...

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Last post by The Womble
30 Sep 2010, 17:41
What's the worst job you've ever had?

Last post by Knulpuk « 21 Sep 2010, 19:55
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by Richt » 21 Sep 2010, 18:09

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And no I am not referring to the Peter Cook and Dudley Moore sketch :lol:

I am inbetween jobs at the moment so am making do with the occasional...

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Egg collecting at a chicken farm every holiday from aged 16 to 20 + a year off after uni - I once did 16 weeks from the Saturday I came back from uni...

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Last post by Knulpuk
21 Sep 2010, 19:55
Field Sales Jobs?

Last post by Richt « 13 Aug 2010, 17:24

by Richt » 13 Aug 2010, 17:24

Don't suppose anyone knows of any vacancies for a road based business to business salesman? Earlier this week it was decided by the new MD of my...

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Last post by Richt
13 Aug 2010, 17:24
I need a job - IT

Last post by RomynPG « 02 Aug 2010, 16:19

by RomynPG » 02 Aug 2010, 16:19

Hi,

(I hope my contributions in FPL have built up enough karma points that this appeal to my fellow IT inclined FISOers is not against any T&Cs)....

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Last post by RomynPG
02 Aug 2010, 16:19
Claiming back mileage for self employed

Last post by blahblah « 25 Jun 2010, 12:17
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by Spencer4 » 25 Jun 2010, 10:08

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Quick question for any tax bods.

I need to go to the Open (for my job) and live in sunny Sussex. It's going to cost me £150 to go by train, and as...

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Not sure they care, how you get there. While they might be interested in your reasons, you could claim for a hotel and sustinence, but you would need...

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Last post by blahblah
25 Jun 2010, 12:17
Vote for my cousin!

Last post by The Ledge « 09 Jun 2010, 10:03
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by The Ledge » 27 May 2010, 09:52

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One of my cousins has made the last three in a Dragon's Den stylee competition for the Shropshire Star. His business model is to home deliver decent...

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He's expecting the website to be live next week - was hoping for this week but things never run to plan. If you are interested in using the company...

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Last post by The Ledge
09 Jun 2010, 10:03
personal business call

Last post by mad dog « 25 May 2010, 17:57
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by Nick_The_Game » 25 May 2010, 11:42

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had this twice now :lol: . strangers calling me saying hi, im from Preston, im calling on a personal business call , then proceed to ask me to...

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Some scamming bustards.... :evil:

On a side note nick, I've come into a bit of money and thought I'd send you a couple of grand... if you PM me...

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Last post by mad dog
25 May 2010, 17:57
CVs and Cover letters

Last post by unc.si « 19 May 2010, 13:44
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by djuicer » 11 Oct 2009, 12:39

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Hello Everyone.

I'm in the middle of doing job applications and rather than just internet forms (which I've previously had) asking for your details...

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actually, that seems to have been just about djuicer's last post on FISO, so maybe he did get the job...

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Last post by unc.si
19 May 2010, 13:44
Yer old da's leaving the bagel factory

Last post by muzzinho « 02 Apr 2010, 13:09
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by muzzinho » 01 Apr 2010, 09:32

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After nearly 8 years working in the bagel factory after uni, yer old da will be serving his one months notice and will be departing for pastures new....

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To be fair my comment there was crass, which I retract. Anyway, nothing further from me on this thread. What a hilarious rinse it would have been...

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Last post by muzzinho
02 Apr 2010, 13:09
Interview for a job

Last post by bspittles « 01 Apr 2010, 09:24
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by Hotpot » 19 Mar 2010, 18:05

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If 2 people are being interviewed for a post, and are to be interviewed on the same day one after the other, is there any advantage to be gained in...

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I was seen first of four candidates and got an offer. So I'll say first :-)

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Last post by bspittles
01 Apr 2010, 09:24
Renting a Shop - pointers needed

Last post by MarquisMark « 22 Mar 2010, 21:32
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by MarquisMark » 22 Mar 2010, 16:53

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I've sent off some emails to some estate agents and have a couple of people i know who rent a shop who i should probably speak to, but thought a...

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you can be my first customer 8-)

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Last post by MarquisMark
22 Mar 2010, 21:32
Horse Racing Course Bookmaker

Last post by Ashers « 22 Mar 2010, 19:34
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by Ashers » 22 Mar 2010, 19:12

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I was wondering if anyone had any knowledge on becoming a bookmaker at horseracing courses.

I would love to get into this, but have no idea where to...

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Notice that at Cheltenham last week.

One bookmaker would take a £1,000 bet and then just put the bet on with another bookmaker. Suppose this covers...

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Last post by Ashers
22 Mar 2010, 19:34
Make Money in the Foreign Exchange Market

Last post by Kdub « 18 Mar 2010, 15:22

by Kdub » 18 Mar 2010, 15:22

Buy Chinese RMB and it will rise steadily in the next 3-6 months.

That's all the information you need... Hope to hear a few success stories come...

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Last post by Kdub
18 Mar 2010, 15:22
This guns for hire.

Last post by blahblah « 12 Mar 2010, 11:33
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by Hotpot » 12 Mar 2010, 08:39

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Request -

Evidence in support of your application.

Please ensure that the evidence supplied is directly relevant to the person specification and...

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This guns for hire.

Thoughts?

I can't help with the photo,but if you want to be taken seriously,you should include the missing apostrophe ! This...

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Last post by blahblah
12 Mar 2010, 11:33
Unfair Dismissal ?

Last post by Shaggy365 « 02 Mar 2010, 18:53
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by andycoull » 01 Mar 2010, 20:32

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Completely out of the blue, I was invited to meet the boss today. I had thought we were about to discuss a presentation I had to deliver in Paris on...

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Under what circumstances can they withdraw this ?
They can't.

Unless you beat up the MD, or similar, then because you've got a piece of paper...

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Last post by Shaggy365
02 Mar 2010, 18:53
Leaving your job without working your notice?

Last post by Shaggy365 « 23 Feb 2010, 19:59
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by Ashers » 23 Feb 2010, 18:26

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My brother is looking to quit his current job, but does not want to work his notice.

What would happen if he hands his notice in and then refuses to...

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Legally speaking, you don't have to work your notice. Your employer can't refuse to pay you any accrued holiday pay, up to the time you leave.

As...

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Last post by Shaggy365
23 Feb 2010, 19:59
Astronomy

Last post by bloggie « 12 Feb 2010, 13:42
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by Zimmerman » 11 Feb 2010, 14:15

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Any amateur star gazers amongst us?

Apparently its possible to see the space station at the moment (although from sifting the net, its quite a...

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Here's a few snapshots someone has made shown in one over about 20 seconds so must be moving at quite a rate:

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Last post by bloggie
12 Feb 2010, 13:42
Limited Company/Partnership

Last post by thelip « 08 Dec 2009, 17:43
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by thelip » 08 Dec 2009, 15:39

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If I wanted to start up a company/partnership with a friend how would I go about it? How much does it cost and what legal implications are there?...

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Well, I want to buy a taxi and start it as a business with a friend that I'll go 50-50 with on the cost (c £60k). As I am the one with the taxi...

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Last post by thelip
08 Dec 2009, 17:43
Help needed to make some money for Children in Need.

Last post by Ashers « 25 Oct 2009, 19:42
Replies: 17
by Ashers » 06 Aug 2009, 21:39

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I am donated 50% of any money made from the 2 below links for Children in Need

Free News Letter

onclick= window.open(this.href);return false;...

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Got it wrong - Just checked and it is £1 each. Won't make me rich, but will help out with a few bills. If everyone can register for the newsletter...

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Last post by Ashers
25 Oct 2009, 19:42
35mm Film developing

Last post by Carpet « 01 Oct 2009, 08:33
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by Fuzzy Logic » 26 Sep 2009, 21:06

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Hi all,

I've recently got back into film photography and would like to know where you go to get your films developed, my first batch went to the...

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I used Snappy Snaps as they're one of the few places that will do matte prints with a white border.

I think they are a franchise operation so their...

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Last post by Carpet
01 Oct 2009, 08:33
Taking A Holiday Without Giving Notice

Last post by Bob Newhart « 16 Sep 2009, 07:28
Replies: 26
by Razorback » 19 Aug 2009, 10:10

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My cat (Bobby) has had health problems for the last couple of months, took him to the vet a while ago & was given some medicine which seemed to do...

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...nothing good ever came of religion :(
What he said, definitely!

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Last post by Bob Newhart
16 Sep 2009, 07:28
My new Job

Last post by Carpet « 15 Sep 2009, 22:26
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by pokergod » 15 Sep 2009, 18:49

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Hello Fiso,

A few months back I posted saying I was looking for a new job in Manchester. I have since starting working for a great company, with...

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Good to hear.

I did have a look for you as we have an office in Manchester and the bonus for reffering a new employee is nice, but we had nothing...

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Last post by Carpet
15 Sep 2009, 22:26
Business Continuity Plans

Last post by Carpet « 14 Sep 2009, 19:50
Replies: 12
by Surprised » 28 Aug 2009, 14:38

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The organistion I work for doesn't have a Business Continuity/Disaster Recovery Plan and I want us to implement one.
I have never drawn one of these...

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I'm a consultant for a commercial insurance firm and this is one of the many things we're always recommending our clients do. I'll do a proper look...

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Last post by Carpet
14 Sep 2009, 19:50
HGV courses

Last post by TheTon « 11 Sep 2009, 18:06
Replies: 68
by TheTon » 03 Jul 2008, 13:50
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Afternoon all.

I have been looking into some info on HGV courses. Are there any FISOers that have any extra driving quals? What did you pay? Was it...

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Thanks for your thoughts guys.

Your right Vid, there is a lot of work in Brum at the mo. I've just got in from my first 'night out'. Enjoyed it a...
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Last post by TheTon
11 Sep 2009, 18:06
Norwich fans........

Last post by mad dog « 11 Sep 2009, 11:01
Replies: 6
by mad dog » 10 Sep 2009, 10:55

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Ever since the girlfriend moved in i've been losing more and more of my possesions. You now almost can't tell I even live in MY house. The latest...

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whoa.....might have made the misses sound a bit of a dragon - but she's alright really. Don't worry lads i'm not pu$$y whipped, and yes tricky I do...

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11 Sep 2009, 11:01

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