Having glanced over monthly leagues...drinking me homebrew...weeklys..golden boot challengers and all the mini-leagues I'm in... comparing my scores with others...thinking about what I did to achieve the same scores...drinking me homebrew...tossing several coins and dividing by the first team I thought of..drinking homebrew... my considered opinion is if you are around 560 points you're pretty nearby... any thoughts?

ps. guess where my 5 are in the region of...mmm did I factor that in?

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This is interesting and looking at the leaderboard as it stands. There is a team named sweet fa 6 times in the top 100 with 4 different manager names Dean Prosser,Eric Falconer,John Prosser, LucieVictoria Prosser. So obviously we have the same player playing with 4 different names, aunts, unlces, brothers, sisters names etc etc.....

Back to Inglebongas's point. 560 would put you around the 3400 mark and about 200 points off the current leader who is on 777 points and who im sure has used at least 10 transfers by now. I think the "real lead" as you put it could be around 630 - 670 mark with say 9+ transfers still left.

I've also been working with an assumption that 75/80 points a week average will keep you in the hunt... so as you say 640ish looks pretty good

I guess the 'real lead' is probably around 680 or so?



Looks like Mr Prosser has got the mini-league prize wrapped up already. By disqualifying the same person mini-leagues they're just encouraging this kind of thing really

Don't forget Lilbeth Prosser in 42nd place, although not under the same team name (although she uses that team name in 31st place in TFF).

Perhaps worth dropping the Mail a line to remind them of their own terms and conditions:

"Participants found to have registered more than five teams may be removed from the MailOnline Game, disqualified and not be eligible to win prizes. If you do not provide your real name when registering, you may not be able to claim any prize for which you otherwise would be eligible. Entries must not be submitted by agents or third parties and such entries will be deemed void."

Proving multiple entries is the problem, even if they logged IP's/passwords you could still get round it. One possible way (too late this year I suppose) could be that you would have to register payout through a matching bank account or paypal address. Still not foolproof though.

Wonder if they could lock your computer to your login far an hour before first scheduled kick off - that would make things harder for them....

I ramble... too much homebrew fumes. I think 680-700 is the real lead (based on my highest score compared with the gaping obvious improvements (with a little hindsight) I could have made)

[quote="Art Vandelay"]I guess the 'real lead' is probably around 680 or so? quote]

With this in mind how many transfers would you say a team on and around 680 would have to have left at this stage to be deemed the "real leader"?

OK, I've given it a bit of thought and going on comparison to my best side I'll go with 700 points with ten transfers.

My best side is around 600 points, the things I'd change are Malouda from the start, Lampard out early, Cech instead of Reina. I don't think I could have done anything else significantly better and those three changes would give me about an extra 90-100 points.

If it's of interest the year I won it I was 100-200th at this stage with 8 transfers left.

Lets wait until the guy wins something and then hundreds of fiso-ites bombard them with phone calls, e-mails etc. The result could be that even if they fail to disqualify him this year, that they will be more vigilant themselves from then onwards.

Anyone else who has played this game or the old Metro game for the last couple of seasons feeling a bit dispondent as they are a bit off the pace in this game no what they are doing. Ive still got a reasonable amount of transfers left in my teams but this is the stage in the season where I start to like to see myself appraoching the leaderboard. As things stand thats looking quite a distance off.

Think this (and Metro) game has always been more like a war of attrition. This year has been an uphill struggle unless you had Chelsea blocks and Malouda instead of Lampard. Doesn't help that a lot of teams have been over/under performing to what you would have expected....

All part of the fun though if it was simple we'd get bored!

Yeah, I'm close to giving up. Every week I'm lucky if I have 9 players playing. I haven't had 12 all season and only put out 11 once and that was week one. I had Bent as my captain today thinking at least you know he's always going to play......

Yeah im getting a little desperate. Have an average of 8 transfers left per team and around 140 points off the current leader. Getting concerned now with that type of gap. I know there is a long way to go but its just not happening this season so far. Missing out on Nolan last week hurt a lot.

If I do not hit the leaderboard by December then I think I will have to give up. This Prosser guy with about 50 teams in the top 100 is sure to have a couple of teams at least finish within the top 10.

Andy Edwards, since you won the competition last year I just wanted to know at what stage you hit the leaderboard last year and also what position is your best placed team this season?

Seriously this is turning out to be the worse week ever

Same here, although it must be a pretty low scoring weekend all round. I think I might have set a new record low with the same team that got 9 the other week

I was hoping this was going to be a big week for my top team with two games from Bent and two from Fabregas both as captain. So four good captain games (on paper at least) have barely made double figures. I was hoping to hit the top 500 after this weekend but I'll be lucky to still be top 2500

Hello mate

Last season my best team made the top 100 towards the end of October

This year my highest placed team is just inside the top 400

Andy

Not doing too shabby this season then are you Andy

For some reason it feels like I am taking one step forward and two steps back in the game this season. And the points I am away from the top 10 is already looking daunting. I'm something like 140 points off the pace of the front runner at the momentand would think to harbour any thoughts of winning this season would need to get this gap down to below 100 before the next transfer allocation.

I wonder what peoples thoughts are now on what the real lead is. To me the "Real Lead" could actually be what the current leader is on now. Its obvious that a lot of the top teams have a Chelsea block with a few obvious chelsea midfielders and strikers as well and with 8 games remaining until the next transfer allocation i suggest that if Chelsea manage to keep at least 5 clean sheets in this time then it will take something very special to close the gap.

I'd have thought anyone on the leaderboard at christmas has got to be in with a chance. I'm suffering from a bit of ebb and flow as well, but despite going downwards positionally over the last 2-3 weeks I have still gained 160 points on the leader and 140 points on the top 100.

As you say 8 games till refilling the tanks, good luck and a following wind I feel even in 1900thish it's not entirely in the realms of fantasy to be near the top 100 by crimbo

Good luck all!

Time to burn that stash of transfers!

Notice you had a stab at the weekly prize last week Inglebongas or was that just coincidence?

Never attempt weeklies...esp those with only the one weekly prize all season.... nice to see my name so high up a table tho'

Ps see that my teams all seem to be behind one of yours..could you get a shift on up the table I seem to be attached...some of my teams are running on fumes!

Fumes are not coming from me I hope. Nosebleed here, by all means strap your red braces to my bumper and catapult yourself forward but prepare to disengage as tis only temporary methinks.

Andy Edwards "Bacon" has hit the leaderboard. Everyone Beware

58th my best position in any season long game ever

Andy who?..................

my transfers have been amazing , my captains have been dire

Andy Edwards a bit of a legend in these parts

How many transfers/captains do people have left?

seems sarcasm is lost on you i've been on the fantasy circuit long enough to be aware of the great Mr Edwards

not many/not many

Sorry didn't realise you had a sense of humour (is that how sarcasm works?)

Between 3 and 6/4 in most teams!

Wilbert you saying you have 4 captain changes in most teams?

I think I have an average of 4 trannies and 2 captain changes in my teams with particular reference to the 2 teams I have lurking just outside the top 100.

Just been one of those seasons so far. Just haven't been able to get going the I would have liked.

Yes 4 captain changes in 3 out of 4 teams much to my shame. I'm doing well (by my own humble standards) with a team in 309th and one in 235th.

Both these teams have 4 captain changes and 6 and 5 trannies respectively just feeling a little pressure to make the right decisions between now and the 28th to maximise my good start.

Yeah to be honest you are in a really strong position with that many transfers and captain changes still left. With the right moves you certainly could be looking at having both teams comforatbly within the top 100 by the 28th. Good luck.

Hey Wilbert,

How are the transfers and subs looking at this moment in time. Im personally running out of gas big time Need a full tank of refuelling come December 28th.