The Mother of all RMTs

Oatfedgoat · **Posted:** 25 Jul 2010, 12:08

That looks a good team.

I like that you have Rooney, I think that due to a poor world cup it seems many are staying away from him. SAF seems to be making all the noises that he will start compared to what he was saying just a few weeks ago.

Anelka makes sense now that the Drog is out (how long have I been banging on about avoiding him at the start though

)

Arshavin-I am starting to warm to the idea of having him but I have plans which I can easily tinker to get him in after GW1 if needed.

Alacaraz I know nothing about. Mouyokolo seems ok for a 4.0 but some who seem to be in the know about the Wolves team on here cast doubt on him starting due to him just being cover for an injury last year. That is a minor issue though because you have Dann who will probably be in your starting 11 more often than not I assume.

owens_2k · **Joined:** Fri Aug 14 2009 **Posts:** 920

Any thoughts on my team below? Its bound to change a bit between now and the start of the season, but I like the look of it except for 2 chelsea defenders and no Arsenal which is a bit risky.

Ironfist · **Posted:** 25 Jul 2010, 14:33

@owens_2k - You might have been misled by the amount of posts in this thread and its name, but this is MY RMT thread and not just a general one.

Get your own turf for an RMT job.

However I am a hospitable person and thus allow your shameless imposition to get away with it. :wink:

Here what I think of your team;
GK - Good choice, solid.
Def - Far, FAR too expensive. 2 chelseas defs is an overkill and warnock is not great VFM. The other two are alright.
Mid - I think Valencia is too expensive now and Bale could be subject to a price drop once the masses see he doesn't score as much when classified as a MF (the same for Ferguson). FFL and Nzog are alright.
Att - Rooney is good, Ameobi is untested in EPL level and Rod is too risky.
Overall - you MUST redice your spending in defence and invest more in Att.
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Oatfedgoat wrote:

That looks a good team.
I like that you have Rooney, I think that due to a poor world cup it seems many are staying away from him. SAF seems to be making all the noises that he will start compared to what he was saying just a few weeks ago. I hope he'll vent some frustration on poor Newcastle. I'll probably swap him for Drog asap.
Anelka makes sense now that the Drog is out (how long have I been banging on about avoiding him at the start though

) If Drogba pouts hard enough when not playing, it might just give Anelka the boost he requires to perform well, like he did two seasons ago.
Arshavin-I am starting to warm to the idea of having him but I have plans which I can easily tinker to get him in after GW1 if needed. Yet another chance foir the wee Russian... I hope he at least does well against Liverpool.
Alacaraz I know nothing about. From what I read, he loves to run forward and get involved in att. No other Wigan defenders are very good at it. Mouyokolo seems ok for a 4.0 but some who seem to be in the know about the Wolves team on here cast doubt on him starting due to him just being cover for an injury last year. That is a minor issue though because you have Dann who will probably be in your starting 11 more often than not I assume. Most people went for Foley, but I checked out the Wolves sources and they seem to link excitment over Hunt in midfield as much as to Mouyokolo in defence. If Dann takes over, it is indeed alright.

I thought of doing what you did and reducing in a few places to have Fabregas and bent instead of my Arshavin and Anelka, but it felt too constrained.
I'm still unhappy about Arteta who doesn't feel right and N'Zog who might just leave to France... if this happens, I'll bring in a cheaper midfielder like Hunt perhaps and upgrade one of the 4.0m defenders,... to something like this;

baganboy · **Posted:** 25 Jul 2010, 15:33

Ironfist wrote:

Hey Ironfist, long time! It indeed is the mother of all RMTs, considering the # of comments etc

Very good team, and I believe if I change my build-from-the-back mentality, I would end up with a team like yours... here are a few thoughts:

Defence - Blackburn had a pretty poor first few fixtures. Have you thought of bringing Givet in after a few GWs? Also, Bramble will, I suspect, have enough minutes by the End of season, but in the firt few matches, Bruce might choose the old hands....; Mouyokolo - I hear Foley might be a better choice, as he is a first teamer too, and plays in midfield. I have Foley FTM, and if he isn't 1st team, I will change over to MKolo too. What to the Wolves fans say?
Too much orange methinks. What formation do you plan to play? 3-5-2 or 3-4-3? If it's the former, you might think of downgrading Doyle and getting in NZog for Hunt, atleast for the first match. I think NZog will improve this season.

Ironfist · **Posted:** 25 Jul 2010, 16:07

baganboy wrote:

Hey Ironfist, long time! It indeed is the mother of all RMTs, considering the # of comments etc

Long time indeed good to see you back

Of course it is 'The Mother of all RMTs'... after all... it's MY team! :wink:

Very good team, and I believe if I change my build-from-the-back mentality, I would end up with a team like yours... here are a few thoughts:
Defence - Blackburn had a pretty poor first few fixtures. Have you thought of bringing Givet in after a few GWs? Givet & Blackburn ... I know what you mean and am contemplating their role in my team, it might very well change. Also, Bramble will, I suspect, have enough minutes by the End of season, but in the firt few matches, Bruce might choose the old hands. Bramble is NOT in my team. He is merely there as a demonstration of a 4.5m compared to the 4.0m one I got there now.; Mouyokolo - I hear Foley might be a better choice, as he is a first teamer too, and plays in midfield. I have Foley FTM, and if he isn't 1st team, I will change over to MKolo too. What to the Wolves fans say? I certainly hope mouyokolo plays. He gets lots of support in the Wolves ranks lately. I wouldn't have minded at all to pick Foley, but if he doesn't play or do well, it'll be one of the cruelest bandwagons.
Too much orange methinks. What formation do you plan to play? 3-5-2 or 3-4-3? If it's the former, you might think of downgrading Doyle and getting in NZog for Hunt, atleast for the first match. I think NZog will improve this season. In my current team, as it appears in the previous page, this is exactly the case... Doyle & N'Zog are in. However there are rumours that N'Zog is leaving so Hunt could definitely become an option.

Thanks for your comments. I'm sure we'll do this many times over this season.

softcoal · **Joined:** Wed Aug 12 2009 **Posts:** 415

Obviously, a work in progress. Quite a few changes from your post of July 21 to the current team posted July 25th. Please give me your thoughts in making the latest revisions:

Robinson for Jaask
Bramble, Dann and Alcaraz for Evans, Fig, and Baptiste/Alex
FFL, Arsh and Hunt for Malouda/Essien, Fab and Ferguson
Rooney and Anelka for Drogs and Tevez

I know news of Drogba's status prompted much of this.
Bottom line, I have Evans, Figuerua, Ferguson, and Tevez, and now you have established doubt.

Finally, you favor Arsh, Rooney and Anelka (30.5) over Malouda, RVP and Tevez (30.0). What do you see as the advantages?

Thanks, immensely enjoying your thread!

checkii · **Posted:** 25 Jul 2010, 17:26

Ironfist wrote:

i like it. the only thing i would do diffterently is to swap out alcaraz for taylor or another 4.0 defender and then change Hunt to Etherington or N'Zog. I dont think Hunt will have as good of a fantasy season as last. That, and he is a gigantic prick and i'd hate having to see him on my squad.

owens_2k · **Joined:** Fri Aug 14 2009 **Posts:** 920

Ironfist wrote:

@owens_2k - You might have been misled by the amount of posts in this thread and its name, but this is MY RMT thread and not just a general one.

Get your own turf for an RMT job.

However I am a hospitable person and thus allow your shameless imposition to get away with it. :wink:

Here what I think of your team;
GK - Good choice, solid.
Def - Far, FAR too expensive. 2 chelseas defs is an overkill and warnock is not great VFM. The other two are alright.
Mid - I think Valencia is too expensive now and Bale could be subject to a price drop once the masses see he doesn't score as much when classified as a MF (the same for Ferguson). FFL and Nzog are alright.
Att - Rooney is good, Ameobi is untested in EPL level and Rod is too risky.
Overall - you MUST redice your spending in defence and invest more in Att.
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Oatfedgoat wrote:

That looks a good team.
I like that you have Rooney, I think that due to a poor world cup it seems many are staying away from him. SAF seems to be making all the noises that he will start compared to what he was saying just a few weeks ago. I hope he'll vent some frustration on poor Newcastle. I'll probably swap him for Drog asap.
Anelka makes sense now that the Drog is out (how long have I been banging on about avoiding him at the start though

) If Drogba pouts hard enough when not playing, it might just give Anelka the boost he requires to perform well, like he did two seasons ago.
Arshavin-I am starting to warm to the idea of having him but I have plans which I can easily tinker to get him in after GW1 if needed. Yet another chance foir the wee Russian... I hope he at least does well against Liverpool.
Alacaraz I know nothing about. From what I read, he loves to run forward and get involved in att. No other Wigan defenders are very good at it. Mouyokolo seems ok for a 4.0 but some who seem to be in the know about the Wolves team on here cast doubt on him starting due to him just being cover for an injury last year. That is a minor issue though because you have Dann who will probably be in your starting 11 more often than not I assume. Most people went for Foley, but I checked out the Wolves sources and they seem to link excitment over Hunt in midfield as much as to Mouyokolo in defence. If Dann takes over, it is indeed alright.

I thought of doing what you did and reducing in a few places to have Fabregas and bent instead of my Arshavin and Anelka, but it felt too constrained.
I'm still unhappy about Arteta who doesn't feel right and N'Zog who might just leave to France... if this happens, I'll bring in a cheaper midfielder like Hunt perhaps and upgrade one of the 4.0m defenders,... to something like this;

Many apologies, i did not mean to hijack the thread! Thanks for the response anyways

Ironfist · **Posted:** 26 Jul 2010, 19:17

I apologise for the late reply but my day was rather hectic.
Here are a few answers and issues I wanted to raise with you esteemed lot.

A.

owens_2k wrote:

Many apologies, i did not mean to hijack the thread! Thanks for the response anyways

Pleasure mate

Where your own RMT thread?... so we might dispense some more advice there.
I'm sure we'll all regret it later. :wink:

B.

checkii wrote:

i like it. the only thing i would do diffterently is to swap out alcaraz for taylor or another 4.0 defender and then change Hunt to Etherington or N'Zog. I dont think Hunt will have as good of a fantasy season as last. That, and he is a gigantic prick and i'd hate having to see him on my squad.

Well, the 4.0m defender choices are rather poor this season and until we know better, I'm trying to avoid (any more of) them. I also believe that Alcaraz might be a pleasant surprise and fit right in with N'Zogbia's style. I did pick N'Zogbia over Hunt, if N'zog stays of course in Wigan. But I also believe that Hunt will have an even better season than last, once he's back from his injury tour. He and Doyle could become a very dynamic duo this season.

C.

softcoal wrote:

Obviously, a work in progress. Quite a few changes from your post of July 21 to the current team posted July 25th. Please give me your thoughts in making the latest revisions:

Robinson for Jaask So far in pre-season games Jaask was picked man of the match, ie in top form. Also, since I'm planning only for the first 3-4 GWs, Bolton have much better fixtures than Blackburn.
Bramble, Dann and Alcaraz for Evans, Fig, and Baptiste/Alex Bramble is not really in my team, he was there just representing a 4.5m defender. Dann and Alcaraz are in for obvious reason, its the ousting of EvansJ which is most noticeable in my team which was done as I decided to keep the cheap defensive line without exceptions. If I had more money, I would pick EvansJ for sure.
FFL, Arsh and Hunt for Malouda/Essien, Fab and Ferguson Not an exact science but now that the picture is changing with Drogba's injury FFL become s a must, Arshavin seems interesting against Liverpool and with Drogba's injury, Kalou might play (alongside Anelka) pushing Malouda back.
Rooney and Anelka for Drogs and Tevez Drog is out, Rooney will probably come back with a vengeance thus Anelka in and Tevez (my favourite) will wait for the first wildcard.

I know news of Drogba's status prompted much of this.
Bottom line, I have Evans, Figuerua, Ferguson, and Tevez, and now you have established doubt. Evans is a great choice and Figueroa is too. Ferguson might also come good but the huge percentage of people picking him will make any gains very unlikely. Tevez... the hardest working man in the EPL, but Citeh's fixtures only get better from GW3 onwards.

Finally, you favor Arsh, Rooney and Anelka (30.5) over Malouda, RVP and Tevez (30.0). What do you see as the advantages? Arshavin Vs Liverpool potential and could always be replaced for Malouda once Drogba is back. Rooney I believe will decimate Newcastle stricken defence - missing their two central defenders and Anelka... he'll do great until Drogba sidelines him in GW3-4.

Thanks, immensely enjoying your thread! Thank you and it is my pleasure.

D. I must stress again that I believe that I'll carry out my 1st wildcard during the 1st international break between GWs 3 and 4. Thus I am planning only 3-4 GWs ahead with these specific fixtures in mind. I also believe that these initial GWs will allow all the injured players to get back, eg Drogba, Fabregas and others and the necessary swaps would be made, eg Arshavin :arrow:

Malouda and (for Oatfedgoat's sake :wink:

) Arteta

Cahill/Valencia/Nani.

Thus, I have currently have 2 options in mind presented here below.
Option A - playing a 3-4-3 formation and no promoted team defender in sight.
Option B - playing a 3-5-2 formation with N'Zog in and Doyle warning the bench.

Advantages and shortcomings for both options. What do you gentlemen think?... ohh, and blahblah, what do you think too? :wink:

blahblah · **Posted:** 26 Jul 2010, 19:24

Adam in B ?

Frees up a few bob for the defence? Cheap is one thing but basers is another. IMHO.

Ironfist · **Posted:** 26 Jul 2010, 19:34

blahblah wrote:

Adam in B ?
Frees up a few bob for the defence? Cheap is one thing but basers is another. IMHO.

I think that Routledge represents far more value than Adam, being cheaper and in a better team.
I agree with you regarding the freeing of more funds to upscale the defence a bit, I might just go that way eventually, but it also means I'll have to go with a 3-4-3 and let Doyle play... although Wolves' initial fixtures aren't too bad.

BTW, for 5.0m there are other interesting choices from Lucas :shock:

to YayaToure

... ...

checkii · **Posted:** 26 Jul 2010, 20:40

I like team A quite a bit. Arshavin seems like a gamble, but could pay out well.

Simon. · **Posted:** 26 Jul 2010, 20:54

I agree, team A looks very strong, but lacking a bit in defense. Why Routledge over Ferguson?

Ironfist · **Posted:** 28 Jul 2010, 21:42

I've gone off Arteta and decided that;

Essien + EvansJ > Arteta + 4.0m Defender

Thus my current team look like this...

Ideas? ...other than comments about Mouyokolo :roll:

Beerfuelledman · **Posted:** 28 Jul 2010, 21:59

Its fine Ironfist. Defence is the weak point, but you know that as you've taken this path to boost the MF & STR - and chosen well amongst the cheaper defenders. Relax for a while and see if any bargains arise - i.e. Figueroa to Liverpool.

Ironfist · **Posted:** 28 Jul 2010, 23:30

Beerfuelledman wrote:

Its fine Ironfist. Defence is the weak point, but you know that as you've taken this path to boost the MF & STR - and chosen well amongst the cheaper defenders. Relax for a while and see if any bargains arise - i.e. Figueroa to Liverpool.

Cheers

But 'fine' isn't quite enough. Of course there'll be further changes alongside news and transfer updates, but I enjoy the tinkering so much :oops:

The things which still bother me are:
1. EvansJ+Mouyokolo :arrow:

Craddock+Figueroa (if he moves)
2. Petrov who has lots of potential might become a dead-duck just like others Bolton has sucked the life out of... today's defeat at Oldham doesn't help.
Hmm...

Special1 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 16 2010 **Posts:** 187

I was having a dilemma as to whether to pick Petrov or not too.

He will be one of Bolton's best players, I don't think there is any doubt about that.. but does he have the support to be able to perform at his maximum potential week in week out.. I don't think so =/

My other options were Lee who even though is from the same team is .5m cheaper

Hitzlsperger from West Ham is an interesting idea aswell, but I guess has the same problems as Petrov does at Bolton? - who knows (he is.5m cheaper though)

My team looks very similar at the moment, but instead of Doyle I am taking a gamble with Boselli - atleast for the first game. But I'm hoping he will be a gem this season.

From4corners · **Joined:** Mon Aug 24 2009 **Posts:** 3225

Well, N'Zogbia is most probably leaving quite soon as he is not there with the team today... cue Moses

(ifyou didn't think of him anyways already).

Ironfist · **Posted:** 29 Jul 2010, 15:16

From4corners wrote:

Well, N'Zogbia is most probably leaving quite soon as he is not there with the team today... cue Moses

(ifyou didn't think of him anyways already).

Yeah, I've seen a few stories about Nzog leaving but nothing concrete or today. I'll look it up thanks

I have taken notice of Moses, I'm only wondering where he has the maturity or consitution to be a proper Nzog replacement. I might have to consider several other options too.

softcoal · **Joined:** Wed Aug 12 2009 **Posts:** 415

I've followed your thread closely, and my squad is very similar to your current roster. Go figure.
Not trying to copy, but once you get the thought process in your mind it's hard to break the pattern.
However, a few questions to ponder:

1. Would Schwarzer add any value for the .5 price differential over either Foster or Jassk?
2. Is Arshavin the best choice to score points for Arsenal? He seems risky at 9.5.
3. Is Rooney's fitness a concern at 12.0? That's a lot of firepower sitting on the sidelines.
4. If N'Zog does leave, any thought on who you would replace him with?
5. Since you already have Anelka and FFL, does Essien really add anything, or is that overkill?

My latest change was to add N'Zog and all of the other pieces fit together. But if he goes, I'm afraid it would be back to the drawing board unless I can find another midfielder at 6.0 or less that I would make me feel as confident. Also, that gave me three Wigan players-Fig, N'Zog, and Rod. That spells trouble. Also, if N'Zog goes, how does that affect Rod and Boselli?

Ironfist · **Posted:** 30 Jul 2010, 12:49

softcoal wrote:

I've followed your thread closely, and my squad is very similar to your current roster. Go figure.
Not trying to copy, but once you get the thought process in your mind it's hard to break the pattern.That is absolutely correct. Whenever I see a heavy defence team or some other strategy, I wonder whether I have been fixiated in my own strategy too much.
However, a few questions to ponder:

1. Would Schwarzer add any value for the .5 price differential over either Foster or Jassk?
Only if he moves to Arsenal which I doubt he will.
2. Is Arshavin the best choice to score points for Arsenal? He seems risky at 9.5.
I hope he can recreate his Anfield fortunes and if not. will be replaced quickly. No sentiments.
3. Is Rooney's fitness a concern at 12.0? That's a lot of firepower sitting on the sidelines. So far it seems he will come back on time and with a burning agenda. Am keeping my eyes and ears open.
4. If N'Zog does leave, any thought on who you would replace him with?
I think Wigan are an awful team and should have been relegated ages ago, but like you I also have 3 of their players in my team. If Figueroa doesn't go to Liverpool he's out and Rodallega is definitely not one of m favourites. If Nzog goes away, the'll be even worse, also without Bramble... very dodgy
5. Since you already have Anelka and FFL, does Essien really add anything, or is that overkill? It was Essien+Craddock or Arteta+4.0m defender... I picked the former.

My latest change was to add N'Zog and all of the other pieces fit together. But if he goes, I'm afraid it would be back to the drawing board unless I can find another midfielder at 6.0 or less that I would make me feel as confident. Also, that gave me three Wigan players-Fig, N'Zog, and Rod. That spells trouble. Also, if N'Zog goes, how does that affect Rod and Boselli?Nzog is the whole engine of that team, without him they will be far worse.

Special1 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 16 2010 **Posts:** 187

Rooney is in the squad to play in Dublin on August 4th and is said to be most likely featuring.

This is a good sign for those who have Rooney in their teams, If he is in the squad to go to Dublin then he must be pretty close or ready to play =/

Ironfist · **Posted:** 02 Aug 2010, 19:37

My two latest inventions... Drogba is back in and a bit more emphasis on strikers.

Option A has a much better defence but is quite limited in Midfield without Arsenal potential
Option B hasa great attack yet crappy defence and subs.

What do you boys think?

blahblah · **Posted:** 02 Aug 2010, 19:41

B, not convinced about Nasri as he is very fragile :wink:

Ironfist · **Posted:** 03 Aug 2010, 14:21

The current lack of Arsenal players in my team really bothers me.
I can't decide whether this is good gaming practice avoiding them until after the Liverpool game or,... getting one of them in early, now, saving a transfer from later misuse.

It boils down to two options, disregarding all others;

Essien & Petrov OR Nasri & Lee
......Robust..........V.......Attacking...

What do you gents think?

Special1 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 16 2010 **Posts:** 187

I'd have to say Essien and Petrov - both guaranteed to play.. and despite Essien being slightly holding against some of the teams that they have in the first few rounds I am sure he will be able to get up.. especially against the ones who are pinned back in their own half all game.

Petrov will be an important player for Bolton and will probably get right up and create/score goals when the strikers aren't firing.

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I have my doubts as to how Nasri fits into the Arsenal team, is he expected to partner Fabregas in the middle.. with song behind and then RVP (Left) and Arshavin (Right) with Chamakh upfront? surely the likes of Diaby and Denilson will come in sometime =/

Lee is a good player and I feel is good VFM, but Petrov I think will have a greater impact

Ironfist · **Posted:** 05 Aug 2010, 20:28

As explained in Oatfedgoat's RMT thread; I've gone off Drogba for now. This pushed me to do a few more changes, mostly in the attack and defence parts. I am constantly trying to forget about favourites and fads and concentrate on fixtures and preseason performance.

This is my current team;

What do you bushdogs think of it?

blahblah · **Posted:** 05 Aug 2010, 20:30

Nearly as good as mine, now :lol:

Ironfist · **Posted:** 05 Aug 2010, 21:08

blahblah wrote:

Nearly as good as mine, now :lol:

I aim to please :wink:

So... pray tell...

roneilc · **Joined:** Tue Dec 23 2008 **Posts:** 594

1 question, how sure are you that Alex will be the regular CB, if so, when is he back?

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