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Gareth · **Joined:** Sat Aug 12 2006 **Posts:** 1327

lampard opening day brace and 3 BPS and you'll be scrambling ways to transfer him in before chelseas next mauling of wigan especially when essien only comes out of west brom with a booking a bonus point and a limp

Ironfist · **Posted:** 21 Jul 2010, 12:22

Gareth wrote:

lampard opening day brace and 3 BPS and you'll be scrambling ways to transfer him in before chelseas next mauling of wigan especially when essien only comes out of west brom with a booking a bonus point and a limp

This is a possibility of course, but... I managed over 25 rounds last season sans FFL and did pretty well. You might be even more correct this season with Chelsea's somewhat depleated centerfield, but Frank was only mediocre early last season and I have a gut feeling he is still depressed about the WC and having served under the Captaincy of MeMe.
On the other hand Essien is rearing to go and early season might just be his time.
Obviously more will be clear a couple of days before the season opens...

Gareth · **Joined:** Sat Aug 12 2006 **Posts:** 1327

Ironfist wrote:

Gareth wrote:

lampard opening day brace and 3 BPS and you'll be scrambling ways to transfer him in before chelseas next mauling of wigan especially when essien only comes out of west brom with a booking a bonus point and a limp

This is a possibility of course, but... I managed over 25 rounds last season sans FFL and did pretty well. You might be even more correct this season with Chelsea's somewhat depleated centerfield, but Frank was only mediocre early last season and I have a gut feeling he is still depressed about the WC and having served under the Captaincy of MeMe.
On the other hand Essien is rearing to go and early season might just be his time.
Obviously more will be clear a couple of days before the season opens...

lol what ever you need to tell yourself to keep off the transfer page

as far as im concerned my team is lampard then i go from there

Ironfist · **Posted:** 21 Jul 2010, 17:44

@Gareth - The best thing about FPL is the transfer page! I go there every few hours to play around and am definitely not trying to avoid it. If you believe in Lampi then by all means bring him on board, but I shall be avoiding him for now. BTW, where is your FPL link button?
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Here I tried to present the three different approaches I'm struggling with right now.
Compulsory note: Yes, I know I'll tinker plenty more before the season starts, these formations are for discussion purposes only.

The Concepts:

Squad A - Three Chelski players (Drogba, Essien & Alex) and currently all too popular Petrov

Squad B - Essien :arrow:

Malouda and Petrov :arrow:

Hiltzsperger - only 2 Chelski players

Squad C - No Fabregas and only 2 Chelski players but... Malouda & Arshavin & Arteta & Nani

The floor is yours...

Beerfuelledman · **Posted:** 21 Jul 2010, 18:01

Of a Frontline of Tevez, Drogba & Doyle in all 3 teams why does Drogba need to be ringed?

Oatfedgoat · **Posted:** 21 Jul 2010, 18:07

Definately prefer B and C. Alex is not certain enough to start for that price for me.

I know that you have stated your love for Drogba compared to FFL and I shall not try to talk you into any different selections with those two!

Would a slightly cheaper striker such as Bent or Agbonlahor at 8.5 be an option for you to have option C with Alex? That would be my favoured (all be it slightly tweaked non-Ironfist) option if you are happy to go for Alex.

(I do agree though that there is minimal quality in defense for 6.0 this season)

Ironfist · **Posted:** 21 Jul 2010, 18:09

Beerfuelledman wrote:

Of a Frontline of Tevez, Drogba & Doyle in all 3 teams why does Drogba need to be ringed?

He is Not! It's the FPL Transfers page midfield natural circle.
Err,... it's not even the same colour as the other discussed players above.

...and now your view of the squads?

Ironfist · **Posted:** 21 Jul 2010, 18:16

Oatfedgoat wrote:

Definately prefer B and C. Alex is not certain enough to start for that price for me.
I know that you have stated your love for Drogba compared to FFL and I shall not try to talk you into any different selections with those two!

Would a slightly cheaper striker such as Bent or Agbonlahor at 8.5 be an option for you to have option C with Alex? That would be my favoured (all be it slightly tweaked non-Ironfist) option if you are happy to go for Alex.
(I do agree though that there is minimal quality in defense for 6.0 this season)

The fact that I love Drogba and prefer him over FFL does NOT mean I am not open to hear other opinions, especially one respected (by me!) as yours.
Drogba's hernia Vs FFL's lackluster... general being?

Also, do you really think that Alex might not feature in Chelsea's opening XI?

Beerfuelledman · **Posted:** 21 Jul 2010, 18:18

Ironfist wrote:

Beerfuelledman wrote:

Of a Frontline of Tevez, Drogba & Doyle in all 3 teams why does Drogba need to be ringed?

He is Not! It's the FPL Transfers page midfield natural circle.
Err,... it's not even the same colour as the other discussed players above.

That was a genuine laugh out loud moment for me there, you know I did notice the ring was different, just not that it was the centre circle :lol:

Oatfedgoat · **Posted:** 21 Jul 2010, 18:36

Ironfist wrote:

Oatfedgoat wrote:

Definately prefer B and C. Alex is not certain enough to start for that price for me.
I know that you have stated your love for Drogba compared to FFL and I shall not try to talk you into any different selections with those two!

Would a slightly cheaper striker such as Bent or Agbonlahor at 8.5 be an option for you to have option C with Alex? That would be my favoured (all be it slightly tweaked non-Ironfist) option if you are happy to go for Alex.
(I do agree though that there is minimal quality in defense for 6.0 this season)

The fact that I love Drogba and prefer him over FFL does NOT mean I am not open to hear other opinions, especially one respected (by me!) as yours.
Drogba's hernia Vs FFL's lackluster... general being?

Also, do you really think that Alex might not feature in Chelsea's opening XI?

Oh please, don't be so silly with the compliments. I had one lucky season. There are many more peoples views on here who make much more sense and have years of good results to back that up.

With regards to Alex, we should know much more after more pre season friendlies.
The only other 6.0 defenders I can think of off the top of my head worth considering are the Villa ones such as Warnock. Currently none of these tempt me for the price and therefore Alex does not really offer a good "marker" if you should choose not to pick him due to the lack of identical alternatives.

I feel more confident playing a cheaper alternative and upgrading a midfield player as there are a glut of decent mid fielders in the 6.0-9.5 price range who are much more likely to start and also have even higher points potential than Alex.

As crazy as it sounds as I say this to myself, I think your front pairing of Drogba and Tevez is the part of your team which you should consider changing maybe.
Doing so would offer you alternatives of Malouda, Arteta, Fabregas in midfield with oodles of cash to spend elsewhere. Of course the probelm is that if Drog or Rooney comes out firing (which I don't think they will) it requires a point hit to get them in as a matter of urgency if you wish to.

Damn it's tricky to offer advice and suggestions/alternatives without pushing you in the direction of copying my team!

Ironfist · **Posted:** 21 Jul 2010, 18:53

Oatfedgoat wrote:

Oh please, don't be so silly with the compliments. I had one lucky season. There are many more peoples views on here who make much more sense and have years of good results to back that up.
My compliments are a measure of friendship and based on the way you dispense your advice, not necessarily your luck last season. :wink:

With regards to Alex, we should know much more after more pre season friendlies.
The only other 6.0 defenders I can think of off the top of my head worth considering are the Villa ones such as Warnock. Currently none of these tempt me for the price and therefore Alex does not really offer a good "marker" if you should choose not to pick him due to the lack of identical alternatives.
Indeed, we'll know more before the season starts and there is a very strong case for taking on a 5.0-5.5m defender instead for an added weight in midfield. I was thinking of Dawson (too popular), Samba, Hughes, Ridgewell... yet again... we'll see.

I feel more confident playing a cheaper alternative and upgrading a midfield player as there are a glut of decent mid fielders in the 6.0-9.5 price range who are much more likely to start and also have even higher points potential than Alex.
True and might very well be the case eventually.

As crazy as it sounds as I say this to myself, I think your front pairing of Drogba and Tevez is the part of your team which you should consider changing maybe.
Doing so would offer you alternatives of Malouda, Arteta, Fabregas in midfield with oodles of cash to spend elsewhere. Of course the probelm is that if Drog or Rooney comes out firing (which I don't think they will) it requires a point hit to get them in as a matter of urgency if you wish to.
While I love Drogba (when fit and firing) I simply adore Tevez. He is the key to the entire Citeh attack and I'm not letting him go. I might consider taking out Drogba but no one seems like a viable option. Rooney is knackered, RVP is in very poor form, Bent... boring, one of the newcomers - Chamakh/Hernandez... ... ... Drogba still seems like the best option for now.

Damn it's tricky to offer advice and suggestions/alternatives without pushing you in the direction of copying my team!
Ethically - God forbid we have the same team. Psychologically - I won't allow myself to have a similar team, make your comment private if you want but... ... for heaven's sake... stop tormenting me :roll:

blahblah · **Posted:** 21 Jul 2010, 19:03

Beerfuelledman wrote:

Ironfist wrote:

Beerfuelledman wrote:

Of a Frontline of Tevez, Drogba & Doyle in all 3 teams why does Drogba need to be ringed?

He is Not! It's the FPL Transfers page midfield natural circle.
Err,... it's not even the same colour as the other discussed players above.

That was a genuine laugh out loud moment for me there, you know I did notice the ring was different, just not that it was the centre circle :lol:

Ironfist · **Posted:** 22 Jul 2010, 08:41

I have 14.0m for TWO midfield positions;

Basically there are two ways to go about this;

One expensive (8-9m) plus one cheap (5-6m)
or
Two mid range (6-7.5m)

eg
Arteta/Cahill/Nani plus Hilzsperger/Parker/Barerra/Ethers/N'Zog/Petrov...
or
2 of: Dunn/Dempsey/Kranjcar/Essien/AJohnson...

Well then...?

blahblah · **Posted:** 22 Jul 2010, 09:14

I have been sitting those three plus Dempsey and Essien(I think) for a while now.

The transfers could be starting soon, so I will log in again, then.

Oatfedgoat · **Posted:** 22 Jul 2010, 10:25

Arteta and Petrov and your team will be even closer to mine

blahblah · **Posted:** 22 Jul 2010, 10:27

Oatfedgoat wrote:

Arteta and Petrov and your team will be even closer to mine

Guess who I took out for Dempsey..........

Oatfedgoat · **Posted:** 22 Jul 2010, 10:57

Del Horno? I heard he might be injured!

Ironfist · **Posted:** 22 Jul 2010, 11:02

blahblah wrote:

Oatfedgoat wrote:

Arteta and Petrov and your team will be even closer to mine

Guess who I took out for Dempsey..........

Three names I am mightly worried about...

Arteta - When fit he's great.

He's fit only 15% of the time.

Petrov - Lots of potential.

Who is he going to play with? Kevin Davies?

Dempsey - The real Fulham target man.

Now No Jol and not much in the rest of the team.

One way to solve this is the defence line.
Currently I have four 4.5m defenders and one 4.0m defender.
If I could find just one more 4.0m defender I'm happy about...

problem is that they are all from the promoted sides and I have little confidence in them.
Any recommendations?

blahblah · **Posted:** 22 Jul 2010, 11:03

Oatfedgoat wrote:

Del Horno? I heard he might be injured!

Funnily enough, no.

Arteta/Petrov became Dempsey and Essien.

Oatfedgoat · **Posted:** 22 Jul 2010, 11:04

Ironfist wrote:

blahblah wrote:

Oatfedgoat wrote:

Arteta and Petrov and your team will be even closer to mine

Guess who I took out for Dempsey..........

Three names I am mightly worried about...

Arteta - When fit he's great.

He's fit only 15% of the time.

Petrov - Lots of potential.

Who is he going to play with? Kevin Davies?

Dempsey - The real Fulham target man.

Now No Jol and not much in the rest of the team.

One way to solve this is the defence line.
Currently I have four 4.5m defenders and one 4.0m defender.
If I could find just one more 4.0m defender I'm happy about...

problem is that they are all from the promoted sides and I have little confidence in them.
Any recommendations?

I reckon our teams are almost identical now!

blahblah · **Posted:** 22 Jul 2010, 11:04

Ironfist wrote:

blahblah wrote:

Oatfedgoat wrote:

Arteta and Petrov and your team will be even closer to mine

Guess who I took out for Dempsey..........

Three names I am mightly worried about...

Arteta - When fit he's great.

He's fit only 15% of the time.

Petrov - Lots of potential.

Who is he going to play with? Kevin Davies?

Dempsey - The real Fulham target man.

Now No Jol and not much in the rest of the team.

One way to solve this is the defence line.
Currently I have four 4.5m defenders and one 4.0m defender.
If I could find just one more 4.0m defender I'm happy about...

problem is that they are all from the promoted sides and I have little confidence in them.
Any recommendations?

Are you copying my cheap defender team? :shock:

Ironfist · **Posted:** 22 Jul 2010, 11:21

blahblah wrote:

Ironfist wrote:

blahblah wrote:

Oatfedgoat wrote:

Arteta and Petrov and your team will be even closer to mine

Guess who I took out for Dempsey..........

Three names I am mightly worried about...
Arteta - When fit he's great.

He's fit only 15% of the time.

Petrov - Lots of potential.

Who is he going to play with? Kevin Davies?

Dempsey - The real Fulham target man.

Now No Jol and not much in the rest of the team.

One way to solve this is the defence line.
Currently I have four 4.5m defenders and one 4.0m defender.
If I could find just one more 4.0m defender I'm happy about...

problem is that they are all from the promoted sides and I have little confidence in them.
Any recommendations?

Are you copying my cheap defender team? :shock:

Surely you are the only one with a 'cheap defenders team' idea. Ohh the sheer brilliance

The question is who have you got in yours...

In mine are: @4.5m - Faye/Figueroa/Givet/Dann plus @4.0m - Mouyokolo

I'd like to replace Dann with another 4.0m defender... and am stuck.

blahblah · **Posted:** 22 Jul 2010, 11:28

View player info Dream team Foster BI 37 0 4.5 4.5 4.5 SU (A)
View player info Dream team Hahnemann WW 102 0 4.5 4.5 4.5 SC (H)

View player info Dream team Givet BR 107 0 4.5 4.5 4.5 EV (H)
View player info Dream team Jones BR 34 0 4.5 4.5 4.5 EV (H)
View player info Dream team Pantsil FU 68 0 5 5 5 BW (A)
View player info Dream team Sagna AR 105 0 6 6 6 LI (A)
View player info Dream team Evans J MU 68 0 5.5 5.5 5.5 NU (H)

View player info Dream team Fabregas AR 214 0 12 12 12 LI (A)
View player info Dream team Essien CH 64 0 7 7 7 WB (H)
View player info Dream team Ferguson BI 106 0 4.5 4.5 4.5 SU (A)
View player info Dream team Dempsey FU 120 0 7 7 7 BW (A)
View player info Dream team Malouda CH 169 0 9.5 9.5 9.5 WB (H)

View player info Dream team Drogba CH 242 0 12.5 12.5 12.5 WB (H)
View player info Dream team Zamora FU 110 0 6.5 6.5 6.5 BW (A)
View player info Dream team Rodallega WA 149 0 6.5 6.5 6.5 BL (H)

More markers at the back tbh

Ironfist · **Posted:** 22 Jul 2010, 11:39

blahblah wrote:

View player info Dream team Givet BR 107 0 4.5 4.5 4.5 EV (H)
View player info Dream team Jones BR 34 0 4.5 4.5 4.5 EV (H)
View player info Dream team Pantsil FU 68 0 5 5 5 BW (A)
View player info Dream team Sagna AR 105 0 6 6 6 LI (A)
View player info Dream team Evans J MU 68 0 5.5 5.5 5.5 NU (H)

err,... that is NOT a 'cheap defenders team'...

Besides... Sanga? :shock:

2 Blackburn defenders?

...and where's the recommendation for a 4.0m defender? Sheesh... :roll:

blahblah · **Posted:** 22 Jul 2010, 11:50

They are all markers, to be honest, but I like the cash allocation.

Depending on transfers I can pick the defence near the season start.

Ironfist · **Posted:** 24 Jul 2010, 14:43

I can't make my mind up between;

Nani - wonderful fixtures, in great form, super team, c/would be rotated heavily.

Arteta(/Cahill) - no rotation, score well, central to his team, but mediocre fixtures, (Arteta-) prone to injury

I can fit one of them in... which one?

Oatfedgoat · **Posted:** 24 Jul 2010, 14:48

LOL I know which one you will end up with. It will be the same as me just to make your team that little bit closer to mine

For similar reasons to my long thread in the main forum I would steer clear of Nani. As well as attempting to guess potential price rises/drops it goes hand in hand I believe with picking "safe" options to start with.
This means minimal, preferably no rotation risk to force your hand into a transfer.

Ironfist · **Posted:** 24 Jul 2010, 15:02

I don't know why but Arteta gives me the shivers. He seems flimsy, flighty and easily distracted by Fellaini's hair-do.
Yes, he plays well and much of Everton's game goes through him, but Cahill is more of a poor man's FFL. Isn't he?

...actually one more thing... since the first international break is just before GW4, and Everton's 3 first fixtures are awful compared to ManU's, I see a valid reason to do pick Nani over the Evertonians, perhaps just for the first three fixtures. What!

Goldstonemr · **Posted:** 24 Jul 2010, 20:09

Arteta for me and if he proves lightweight, flimsy, etc, I will swap him for Cahill.

Nani is a rotational no go, he is inconsistent and I prefer proven points scorers till the cobwebs of the close season have been blown away. 8-)

Ironfist · **Posted:** 24 Jul 2010, 20:23

What about the fact that Everton are notorious slow starters?
On top of the fact that the current team will last only for the first 3 GWs until the approximate time of the first wildcard?

As it stands right now, the midfield combination of having Nani or Arteta will influence another midfielder thus presenting the options of;

Nani & Bale
V
Arteta & N'Zogbia

I'm torn...

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