You'll just have to wait until you get home tonight then,and check in your own time !

None yet predicted to fall tonight, and though CtC hasn't updated today,I've drawn DP's attention to this.

If you're referring to Torres,FT have him at only 10% towards a drop at present.

- FT

I'd assumed Oatfedgoat would have checked the FPL site while eating his cornflakes,and would be aware of Torres' first fall last night - if not,it's time he started taking this game more seriously !

I'm pretty sure he eats wheatabix

If so,that would explain why he's not keeping up with events,as that Torres fall you quoted actually occurred on Sunday night/Monday a.m., not last night (maybe he's got someone else in mind though ? )

5am is too early even for me to eat Oatabix!

You were right, I hadn't had a chance to check the site since Sunday evening and was wondering if Torres had fallen in price.

How silly of me to confuse my cereals and not realise it's OATabix that keeps you going !

Perhaps you could organise your early morning rushhour better by having your OATABIX the previous night - as an Oatabix supperfast instead ? (always remember to have your oats at bedtime )

bedtimes currently consist of no oats, just me staggering through the door (non-alcohol induced!) at about 9pm and falling face down on the bed until the alarm goes off next morning.

With this weeks transfers I am one relieved goat as it has been planned for ages (naturally ) and I no longer need to monitor anything.... until I see robin's thread spring into action no doubt if more DGW get announced.

He makes it oats so simple.

There is a grain of truth in what you say...

Yeah, I can barley believe it.

nicely done

Will Collins rise tonight ?

Probably not. This is getting very very tiring. Seriously - do you have the CTC bookmarked?

At this second:

James Collins 75.6%

so no! Do you not know how to read ??

I'm kind of new here, and yes RSS is a bit tiresome sometimes, but I think you guys should go easier on him. CTC has been down all day so it might not have been quite as stupid a post as it appeared.

Don't worry we are not always mean. Real Slim Shady has been here for a while but with many different names yet he never seems to learn. For example, he asked the same question 2 days ago: -

Its like you posting a RMT thread in the main forum. We will tell you nicely to post it in the RMT forum, but if you consistently don't (or make pointless/duplicate threads) then we will get annoyed.

CtC had been working perfectly all evening,having been restored to action by DiamondPlus following a router problem.

Ideally, I think there should be two CTC threads. (1) for technical matters relating to rise/fall thresholds, protection issues, stuff concerning the way the CTC algorithm tracks the FPL source, NTI data (especially unusual rises and falls that inform our knowledge of how things might work), that kind of thing, and (2) a CTC banter thread, for all the "is X rising/is Y falling tonight?" and "What's happening to Z?" stuff, and where all the people who can't be arsed to read the NTI tables can happily try to get answers to their queries without fear of getting dumped on by people who can be arsed... People can then read either or both (or none!) according to taste... worth thinking about for next season?

It's a good idea, Mr.C. We shall look at this in the pre-season.

You mean there's someone else,apart from RSS ?

Really,the technical issues you refer to are what this thread used to be all about,alleviated occasionally by some light hearted banter.
Those who can't be bothered to look at CtC themselves,and instead expect others to spoonfeed them would probably continue to ignore reasonable requests to take their queries to another thread,where they would probably just be ignored.

I disagree!! Maybe the actual maths of it could be complicated to some but being able to read the CTC table is definitely not! If you find it hard to read tables then you surely not going to be good at playing FPL!

Lets look at the table: -


NTI means NET Transfers In. There is a NTI target! When the NTI reaches this target, a player rises!

The percentage shown is how much the NTI has accomodated the target! (i.e When target is reached, % = 100)

Players are listed in order of % (highest to lowest)

It shows today's NTI so if when the CTC stops at 10pm and someone is on 95% and their today's NTI was 40%. You can strongly assume he will rise!

....How is that complicated

Oh dear... I'm afraid to say that I don't find it complicated at all, so if your explanation was aimed at me, it was wasted. I'm not trying to blow my own trumpet in this respect, but that's how it is. My observation was based on the fact that there are a number of people who do post requests for what to others seems like fairly trivial interpretations of data, and sometimes it seems to me that the responses show a little irritation. So I was trying to suggest a way in which those who found themselves wound up by the apparently trivial would no longer have to subject themselves to it. However, I now withdraw my suggestion completely and actually wish I hadn't bothered to make it at all. Hey ho..., I should have know better...

The explanation wasn't aimed at you! - just to those who want to be "spoon-fed"
It was a lil Pink_Elephantz Tutorial

I thought it was a good idea...

A few seasons ago I suggested that those of us who were mathematically inclined attempt to 'Crack The Code'. We did - by and large, anyway!

In the following years the thread has developed into a major asset to all FISO FPLers due to the hard work of comparatively few. I think it understandable that many wish to see the CTC free of unproductive posts - bar occasional bouts of banter.

However, the ethos of our forum has always been one of helpfulness to all members - 'from each according to his ability, to each according to his need', to quote old Mr. Marx.
This approach has, in the past, given our particular forum a stellar reputation amongst the whole membership and is something worth protecting and maintaining. If a 'Technical CTC thread' and a 'CTC Questions' thread helped maintain the peace then perhaps it should be considered?

May I ask that we now leave this discussion for the time being as this season is drawing to a close, and revive it come June/July?

In the meantime ..... What about Collins?

As Pink_Elephantz has stressed, he certainly wasn't aiming his "tutorial" at yourself Mr Clarinet, but was just trying to simplify the interpretation of CtC for the benefit of those who appear to have difficulty understanding how to use it.

It's all there on Page 1 of this thread in much greater detail,but some people have expressed difficulty understanding it.

All Pink_Elephantz was trying to do was to help such individuals to be able to read CtC themselves,thus eliminating their need to ask unnecessary questions on this thread, which I thought he did rather well.

Your own experience in these matters is recognised by the regular posters here, who understand your suggestion was well intentioned,but Pink_Elephantz was seeking to address the root cause of the recent problems which have arisen.

OK, I apologise to you and to PE and to everyone else whom I inadverantly offended. I'll stop posting for a while. Really, I didn't mean any harm.

You don't owe me or anyone else an apology,Mr Clarinet as you've done nothing wrong at all ! - except to assume Pink_Elephantz was providing his "tutorial" for you !

Just a case of crossed wires between the two of you,so don't go away,Fiso needs you !

I agree, just a little misunderstanding. I didn't find your post offensive at all! - don't leave us!