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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2009, 12:01 
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I think he needs twice the threshold to rise again. If threshold is 25k, he needs to get to 75k for the second rise i.e another two time 25k = 50k.


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
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PlayerId, DateAdded
478 2009-08-10 15:00:09.133
475 2009-08-10 15:00:09.867
477 2009-08-10 15:00:10.523
476 2009-08-10 15:00:11.070
479 2009-08-13 22:02:03.113
480 2009-08-13 22:02:03.863
481 2009-08-13 22:02:04.443
482 2009-08-13 22:02:05.193
492 2009-08-17 07:51:30.250
489 2009-08-17 07:51:30.890
495 2009-08-17 07:51:31.343
502 2009-08-17 07:51:31.983
486 2009-08-17 07:51:32.733
485 2009-08-17 07:51:33.407
488 2009-08-17 07:51:34.000
507 2009-08-17 07:51:34.797
503 2009-08-17 07:51:35.513
506 2009-08-17 07:51:36.140
484 2009-08-17 07:51:36.670
496 2009-08-17 07:51:37.233
497 2009-08-17 07:51:37.810
493 2009-08-17 07:51:38.280
504 2009-08-17 07:51:39.000
487 2009-08-17 07:51:39.953
494 2009-08-17 07:51:41.610
483 2009-08-17 07:51:43.437
498 2009-08-17 07:51:44.577
500 2009-08-17 07:51:45.500
505 2009-08-17 07:51:46.060
499 2009-08-17 07:51:47.140
501 2009-08-17 07:51:47.687
490 2009-08-17 07:51:48.093
491 2009-08-17 07:51:48.593



Thanks, that's exactly what I need. Off the top of my head I think I can get away with using this information rather than using the full data extract.


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2009, 12:55 
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Koumas is currently less than 20% towards another rise, however when his threshold is dropped to 25k along with everyone else tonight he'll be 40%+ towards one.

He lost a load of residual transfers when his price changed last night.

Player, Price, Target, GWTransfers, AdjustedTransfers, PercentageToRise
Koumas 5.10 50000.00 61096 9386 18.77


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2009, 12:59 
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blahblah wrote:
I think he needs twice the threshold to rise again. If threshold is 25k, he needs to get to 75k for the second rise i.e another two time 25k = 50k.

Since we cross a gameweek barrier tonight, his threshold is reset to 25k and he keeps any NTI made since his price rise last night, yes?

He rose on 51290 NTI and is currently on 61096 NTI now (13.57) so needs another 15K and a bit before the price change kicks in at 2am-ish tonight. Based on a linear calculation, he will fall short by 5K; he has risen 10K in the last 12 hours and therefore could/should rise another 10K before 2am. Dodgy assumption but the best I can give you.

If he scores or assists tonight, I reckon there's a good chance he'll do it.


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
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If it 25k, rather than say 22.5k. Could be close as the pre match transfers kick in.


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
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snout wrote:
blahblah wrote:
I think he needs twice the threshold to rise again. If threshold is 25k, he needs to get to 75k for the second rise i.e another two time 25k = 50k.

Since we cross a gameweek barrier tonight, his threshold is reset to 25k and he keeps any NTI made since his price rise last night, yes?

He rose on 51290 NTI and is currently on 61096 NTI now (13.57) so needs another 15K and a bit before the price change kicks in at 2am-ish tonight. Based on a linear calculation, he will fall short by 5K; he has risen 10K in the last 12 hours and therefore could/should rise another 10K before 2am. Dodgy assumption but the best I can give you.

If he scores or assists tonight, I reckon there's a good chance he'll do it.


Koumas will make it. I just checked transfers in for him and the phone rang. After a brief conversation with a client I refreshed the page and the difference was +600 :shock:

People are piling on him and I think he'll deliver tonight both on the field and in the transfer market 8-)


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2009, 14:09 
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Sorry if this takes up too much room, it'll be easier when CTC is back working tonight hopefully as I feel as though I'm spamming the thread at the moment, however...

Risers

ID PlayerName Form Price PriceRiseThreshold GWNetTransfers GWAdjustedTransfers PercentageToRise
374 Modric 5.00 7.50 25000.00 26971 26971 107.88
16 Fabregas 22.00 10.50 25000.00 25211 25211 100.84
395 Noble 14.00 6.00 25000.00 18511 18511 74.04
293 Rooney 9.00 11.00 25000.00 17097 17097 68.39
379 Defoe 2.00 8.50 25000.00 15983 15983 63.93
380 Bent 6.00 7.00 25000.00 15339 15339 61.36
195 Zamora 9.00 5.50 25000.00 15036 15036 60.14
276 O'Shea 6.00 5.50 25000.00 14602 14602 58.41
233 Gerrard 7.00 12.50 25000.00 13455 13455 53.82
388 Upson 12.00 5.50 25000.00 13180 13180 52.72

Fallers (Quite a few)

ID PlayerName PriceFallThreshold GWNetTransfers GWAdjustedTransfers FallTarget PercentageToFall YellowFlagged RedFlagged
242 Zabaleta 10.00 -1259 -1259 1000.00 -125.90 False False
42 Agbonlahor 10.00 -23402 -23402 19010.00 -123.10 False False
398 Savio 10.00 -194 -194 160.00 -121.25 False False
412 Watson 10.00 -188 -188 160.00 -117.50 False False
136 Alex 10.00 -3466 -3466 3020.00 -114.77 False False
451 Tevez 10.00 -22176 -22176 19350.00 -114.60 False False
20 Wilshere 10.00 -4950 -4950 4370.00 -113.27 False False
40 Young A 10.00 -26682 -26682 24230.00 -110.12 False False
466 Delph 10.00 -1833 -1833 1680.00 -109.11 False False
468 Kalinic 10.00 -354 -354 330.00 -107.27 False False
110 Davies 10.00 -8953 -8953 8410.00 -106.46 False False
98 Steinsson 10.00 -4644 -4644 4370.00 -106.27 False False
157 Sturridge 10.00 -711 -711 670.00 -106.12 False False
439 Jones 10.00 -167 -167 160.00 -104.38 False False
101 Gardner 10.00 -2596 -2596 2520.00 -103.02 False False
251 De Jong 10.00 -1869 -1869 1850.00 -101.03 False False
279 Tosic 10.00 -332 -332 330.00 -100.61 False False
41 Sidwell 10.00 -1519 -1519 1510.00 -100.60 False False
163 Lescott 10.00 -24350 -24350 24900.00 -97.79 False False
246 Onuoha 10.00 -803 -803 840.00 -95.60 False False
160 Baines 10.00 -10771 -10771 11270.00 -95.57 False False
8 Silvestre 10.00 -2214 -2214 2350.00 -94.21 False False
391 Stanislas 10.00 -149 -149 160.00 -93.13 False False
274 Ferdinand 25.00 -37556 -37556 40375.00 -93.02 False True
9 Gibbs 10.00 -1559 -1559 1680.00 -92.80 False False


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2009, 14:29 
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Thanks,

It's just what we need until CTC is up and running.


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
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I cannot see SEB on your list for falls, what is the prognosis?

Not sure whether I need to bin him after 7:30 tonight to avoid the pts hit and the price drop :?:

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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
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12k to go, based on 25k threshold.


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
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I think this is a goer 8-)


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
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Could well be.

I am assuming that the 25k threshold is a guesstimate.


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
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jacksosi wrote:
I cannot see SEB on your list for falls, what is the prognosis?

Not sure whether I need to bin him after 7:30 tonight to avoid the pts hit and the price drop :?:

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He's red flagged so he's about 50% of the way to a drop.

I'm moving him out after the deadline tonight just in case he drops overnight.


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
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Murder1 wrote:
jacksosi wrote:
I cannot see SEB on your list for falls, what is the prognosis?

Not sure whether I need to bin him after 7:30 tonight to avoid the pts hit and the price drop :?:

Cheers


He's red flagged so he's about 50% of the way to a drop.

I'm moving him out after the deadline tonight just in case he drops overnight.


Thanks.

I am now thinking SEB to Jerome (may drop vs may rise), 4 point hit, then Kuyt to Fab after 7:30 with the extra £1m, and then Fab rises too, probably more than once before POR :mrgreen: ...possibly I am starting to get addicted to this trading :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
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10k


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
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It seems very possible that Arshavin's price will drop today. :shock: Currently he stands at some ~27,000 NTO, a few thousand more Arshavin --> Gerrard/Modric/Kuyt and he'll be priced 10.9 tomorrow... Meanwhile, Fabregas will rise to 10.6... Which one to pick for GW3...


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
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Dumb question time.

I've read things through but would like to just check.

Fabregas will go up TONIGHT (as in, early hours of tomorrow) for certain now?

But he will NOT go up at the 7:30pm deadline, correct?

Deadlines affect the NTIs etc, but NOT when the changes occur. Am I understanding this correctly?

Thanks in advance.

:shock: :D


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Bernie Steak wrote:
Dumb question time.

I've read things through but would like to just check.

Fabregas will go up TONIGHT (as in, early hours of tomorrow) for certain now?

But he will NOT go up at the 7:30pm deadline, correct?

Deadlines affect the NTIs etc, but NOT when the changes occur. Am I understanding this correctly?

Thanks in advance.

:shock: :D


I'd say yes, you have the correct picture. The system is rather daft, mind, it would be much more logical if the price changes occured at the deadline, not at some random point during the following night.


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Then we would be complaining about the points not updating during the match etc...


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
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Thanks for clearing that up.

At least it's possible to watch and see if Fabregas lives through the CL match tonight with a "slight" hamstring issue before taking the plunge and bringing him in.


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8.5k, starting to feel confident about the rise, now.


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Keep up the real-time monitoring, blahblah. I'm gonna give you a high five at the deadline when the 0.1m is secured 8-)


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
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Hoping someone may be able to point me in the right direction. When using the Code Thread link at the very top of page one of this thread, I am directed to what looks like last seasons stats. Feel like I am missing something obvious. Where is the best place to find the up to date link.


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
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It'll be up sometime soon. Please bear with us.


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 Post subject: Re: The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes (The Code Thread) 09/10
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murur0a wrote:
It seems very possible that Arshavin's price will drop today. :shock: Currently he stands at some ~27,000 NTO, a few thousand more Arshavin --> Gerrard/Modric/Kuyt and he'll be priced 10.9 tomorrow... Meanwhile, Fabregas will rise to 10.6... Which one to pick for GW3...


29,000 NTO at the moment, some ~2,400 short of the assumed treshold for the drop...


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Sorry guys,

I was planning on getting CTC up and running tonight but I'm going to have to defer 'til tomorrow instead. I've just had a go and it's not working for the new arrivals (i.e. Bassong). I'm going out soon so I won't have the time tonight.


Many, many sorrys!


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No worries D+ thanks for trying.

Here's the top 10 risers although I have more if people require:

Risers
ID PlayerName Form Price PriceRiseThreshold GWNetTransfers GWAdjustedTransfers PercentageToRise
374 Modric 5.00 7.50 25000.00 30869 30869 123.48
16 Fabregas 22.00 10.50 25000.00 25928 25928 103.71
395 Noble 14.00 6.00 25000.00 19572 19572 78.29
293 Rooney 9.00 11.00 25000.00 19056 19056 76.22
379 Defoe 2.00 8.50 25000.00 18333 18333 73.33
276 O'Shea 6.00 5.50 25000.00 16965 16965 67.86
380 Bent 6.00 7.00 25000.00 16882 16882 67.53
195 Zamora 9.00 5.50 25000.00 16208 16208 64.83
233 Gerrard 7.00 12.50 25000.00 15406 15406 61.62
67 Jerome 2.00 4.50 25000.00 15105 15105 60.42

415 Koumas 10.00 5.10 50000.00 67900 16190 32.38


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...and fallers upto 90% towards the drop. Any particular players let me know and I'll do my best to post them up.

ID PlayerName PriceFallThreshold GWNetTransfers GWAdjustedTransfers FallTarget PercentageToFall YellowFlagged RedFlagged
42 Agbonlahor 10.00 -25844 -25844 19010.00 -135.95 False False
242 Zabaleta 10.00 -1359 -1359 1000.00 -135.90 False False
398 Savio 10.00 -217 -217 160.00 -135.63 False False
412 Watson 10.00 -207 -207 160.00 -129.38 False False
451 Tevez 10.00 -24462 -24462 19350.00 -126.42 False False
40 Young A 10.00 -29934 -29934 24230.00 -123.54 False False
20 Wilshere 10.00 -5366 -5366 4370.00 -122.79 False False
136 Alex 10.00 -3698 -3698 3020.00 -122.45 False False
466 Delph 10.00 -2031 -2031 1680.00 -120.89 False False
98 Steinsson 10.00 -5133 -5133 4370.00 -117.46 False False
110 Davies 10.00 -9828 -9828 8410.00 -116.86 False False
468 Kalinic 10.00 -385 -385 330.00 -116.67 False False
439 Jones 10.00 -181 -181 160.00 -113.13 False False
41 Sidwell 10.00 -1686 -1686 1510.00 -111.66 False False
101 Gardner 10.00 -2798 -2798 2520.00 -111.03 False False
157 Sturridge 10.00 -741 -741 670.00 -110.60 False False
279 Tosic 10.00 -363 -363 330.00 -110.00 False False
251 De Jong 10.00 -2010 -2010 1850.00 -108.65 False False
163 Lescott 10.00 -26323 -26323 24900.00 -105.71 False False
274 Ferdinand 25.00 -42300 -42300 40375.00 -104.77 False True
160 Baines 10.00 -11801 -11801 11270.00 -104.71 False False
246 Onuoha 10.00 -871 -871 840.00 -103.69 False False
31 Davies 10.00 -11638 -11638 11440.00 -101.73 False False
8 Silvestre 10.00 -2390 -2390 2350.00 -101.70 False False
9 Gibbs 10.00 -1692 -1692 1680.00 -100.71 False False
391 Stanislas 10.00 -161 -161 160.00 -100.63 False False
27 Vela 10.00 -1624 -1624 1680.00 -96.67 False False
259 Robinho 10.00 -12769 -12769 13290.00 -96.08 False False
105 Taylor 10.00 -9822 -9822 10260.00 -95.73 False False
265 Jo 10.00 -6324 -6324 6730.00 -93.97 False False
96 O'Brien A 10.00 -1577 -1577 1680.00 -93.87 False False
288 Gibson 10.00 -150 -150 160.00 -93.75 False False
14 Diaby 10.00 -1078 -1078 1170.00 -92.14 False False
463 Shevchenko 10.00 -771 -771 840.00 -91.79 False False
441 Surman 10.00 -302 -302 330.00 -91.52 False False
156 Di Santo 10.00 -908 -908 1000.00 -90.80 False False
460 Riise 10.00 -1059 -1059 1170.00 -90.51 False False
221 Agger 25.00 -6085 -6085 6725.00 -90.48 False True
443 Ebanks-Blake 25.00 -28836 -28836 46275.00 -62.31 False True

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