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PostPosted: 08 May 2007, 15:56 
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AK & I are trying to establish the best plan for tournaments when double/treble points are up for grabs.

Do you load with 6 players or split in a 5:1, 4:2 or 3:3 format.

What are your thoughts? :?:


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PostPosted: 08 May 2007, 16:15 
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I think you load up unless you have a player who is particularly in form/likes the course in the single-pointer - perhaps the defending champ - ideally you want to be leaving out an out-of form player from the double/triple pointer - but sod's law has it (and if often occurs-such is the fun of FG) that this will be the week he decides to make it back into the top 5 and thereby outscore the other anyway.

Would be interesting to hear others thoughts as I am far from an expert, this being only my 2nd season.


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PostPosted: 08 May 2007, 16:23 
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Just had a look at the way the pts works, and 11th in a double-pointer =3rd in a single-pointer - pretty sure you have to go for the former on that basis. Would have to be a VERY strong favourite in the single-pointer (which is unlikely as they would usually be playing in the double pointer) to make it worthwhile IMHO.

In the case of a triple-pointer I don't think the question arises - 11th= 1st! The argument about best-rounds doesn't really hold-up either I don't think, since best-rounds are often tied affairs (haven't done the analysis to back this up - wonder if anyone has?), and therefore it is not unlikely that more than one of your players will get a best-round.

Proceed with caution....


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PostPosted: 08 May 2007, 20:47 
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As per my post on another thread:

I've gone for a 5/1 split in both my teams (not that I can win anything of course!) and that's only because I've got the in-form Simon Dyson - any lesser player and I would opt for all six in the double-pointer.

It depends largely on the players, but the only circumstance I'd favour playing someone in the single pointer is if your choice is between an in-form player in the single pointer against an out-of-form golfer in the double-weighted event.


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PostPosted: 08 May 2007, 21:01 
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Mr Green wrote:
As per my post on another thread:

I've gone for a 5/1 split in both my teams (not that I can win anything of course!) and that's only because I've got the in-form Simon Dyson - any lesser player and I would opt for all six in the double-pointer.

It depends largely on the players, but the only circumstance I'd favour playing someone in the single pointer is if your choice is between an in-form player in the single pointer against an out-of-form golfer in the double-weighted event.


Don't listen to Mr. Green! It is a devious attempt to make FISOers score less :twisted:

Every time I drop an out-of-former I can guarantee he will have a stormer :lol:


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PostPosted: 08 May 2007, 21:14 
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Two choices in my book

    1. Go with your gut feel
    2. Stick to the percentages

Don't know about you lot, but my gut feelings have been wrong more than a few times already :lol:

Therefore, you've got to stack all the x 2 players in that you can, as IF they have a good week they're going to score double.

Having said that I'm benching Rich Beem in about half my teams, as he's playing poop at the moment, so just watch him rack up those points!


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toffeelover wrote:
Two choices in my book

    1. Go with your gut feel
    2. Stick to the percentages
Don't know about you lot, but my gut feelings have been wrong more than a few times already :lol:

Therefore, you've got to stack all the x 2 players in that you can, as IF they have a good week they're going to score double.

Having said that I'm benching Rich Beem in about half my teams, as he's playing poop at the moment, so just watch him rack up those points!



The flipside is that in a heavily weakened field in Europe the chances of having a high finish are vastly improved for instance I have Gonzalo Fernandez-Castano & Damien McGrane playing in Andalucia this weekend. I fancy both for a top 20 finish.

I also have 9 eligible for Sawgrass, some are no-brainers but I'm in a real quandary as to whether the likes of Karllson, Casey, DiMarco & Baddelay warrant places above my Europeans


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PostPosted: 09 May 2007, 00:58 
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point in question....Howell III, played brill start of season, I've stuck with him and he's done sod all...time to get rid. Watch him win this week :cry:


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I will load for the x2 as I am too far back to really make a difference if my single tourney players do well.


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PostPosted: 09 May 2007, 16:38 
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well after a very poor start, all my hopes of bettering last years overall position , f/e league position are smashed :cry:

i think that the 5-1 split or even 4-2 is definately an option for this weekend purely because of the poor field in europe, plus the size of the field in the players allows for all sorts of possibilities with unknowns or un fancied players having a good weekend.

well at least the only way is up ......hopefully :shock:


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el_pappje wrote:
Mr Green wrote:
I've gone for a 5/1 split in both my teams (not that I can win anything of course!) and that's only because I've got the in-form Simon Dyson - any lesser player and I would opt for all six in the double-pointer.

It depends largely on the players, but the only circumstance I'd favour playing someone in the single pointer is if your choice is between an in-form player in the single pointer against an out-of-form golfer in the double-weighted event.


Don't listen to Mr. Green! It is a devious attempt to make FISOers score less :twisted:

Every time I drop an out-of-former I can guarantee he will have a stormer :lol:


Well, in the end I listened to Mr Green and put in the "in form" Simon Dyson in favour of Robert Allenby. Dyson is currently last after 3 rounds and Allenby missed the cut! :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: 12 May 2007, 17:58 
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Still think a 6-0 split is best (In spite of a complete disaster for a week in 2 teams).
Third team ok at present if Mickleson , els & Goosen score.


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Switched to a 6-0 split on the advice of the forum, kidding myself that GFC wouldn't have 2 hot weeks in a row :oops:

Wait until I see that Mr Green :twisted: :wink: :lol:


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PostPosted: 13 May 2007, 01:07 
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Yep. I put Dyson in as my only european in the team too.
Dyson is currently last with one day to go. :shock:

I don't mind that, but the american player I decided to take out (purely so I could have an interest in the golf on TV) was....

.....Sean O'Hair!!! :shock:
currently leading the Players Championship with a day to go.

You'll also be pleased to know I was the only person in the whole of the fantasy league who rated Jeff Quinney enough to put him in my team from the beginning.
He's third.

Pity I took him out last week.


(And if you noticed; Yes I'm the same poor sod with the story of the crazy bad luck over in the withdrawals/injuries section!!) :roll:

Oh happy days....


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I had 8 possible eligible players this week, with the Japanese guy, is it Imada, being the obvious one to leave out. Had a look at the stats and Baddeley has never performed well before at the Players as far as I could see, so I left Allenby in. Doh!

Still a long way to go judging by today's scores, but I may only have one scoring player, unless the Goose gets his act together. :cry:


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PostPosted: 14 May 2007, 09:17 
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Confident that a 6-0 split is right now. In spite of it not working.

If you fancy one player in the other comp then go shove a tenner on them and pay for another 6 teams if they win!

Not an easy week to get it right with most of the top guys falling just outside the top 20.

Best possible to pick out there?

Mickleson
Garcia
Cink
Scott
Olazabal
Johnson

I have 3 teams and had 5 of 18 make cut but I only had 3 of those guys and they typically were in different teams.

BMW in 2 weeks is next opportunity to test the theory! and get it wrong again :wink:


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Thank goodness for Stuart Cink! :lol:


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& I had looked at previous performances and nearly took him out!


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