Sun Dream Team Season Diary 2009/2010 (Transfer Windows etc)

Zarch · **Posted:** 14 Jul 2009, 09:22

After the success of last seasons attempt, here's this seasons fixture diary in relation to the Sun Dream Team dates.

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16/07/09 : UEL Second Qualifying, 1st Leg (does NOT count for DT)
23/07/09 : UEL Second Qualifying, 2nd Leg (does NOT count for DT)
28/07/09 : CL Third Qualifying, 1st leg (does NOT count for DT)
30/07/09 : UEL Third Qualifying, 1st Leg (does NOT count for DT)
05/08/09 : CL Third Qualifying, 2nd leg (does NOT count for DT)
06/08/09 : UEL Third Qualifying, 2nd Leg (does NOT count for DT)
12/08/09 : International Matches (World Cup Qualifying for Scotland, friendlies for England, Wales, Rep.Ireland and N.Ireland)
15/08/09 : Premier League Starts
18/08/09 : CL Play-offs, 1st Leg (DO count for DT)
20/08/09 : UEL Play-offs, 1st Leg (DO count for DT)
25/08/09 : Carling Cup Round 2
25/08/09 : CL Play-offs, 2nd Leg (DO count for DT)
27/08/09 : UEL Play-offs, 1st Leg (DO count for DT)
05/09/09 : International Matches
09/09/09 : International Matches
15/09/09 : CL Group Stage, Matchday 1
17/09/09 : UEL Group Stage, Matchday 1
22/09/09 : Carling Cup Round 3
29/09/09 : CL Group Stage, Matchday 2
01/10/09 : UEL Group Stage, Matchday 2

06/10/09 : **** Dream Team Transfer Window 1 Opens ****
10/10/09: International Matches
14/10/09: International Matches
19/10/09 : **** Dream Team Transfer Window 1 Closes ****

20/10/09 : CL Group Stage, Matchday 3
22/10/09 : UEL Group Stage, Matchday 3
27/10/09 : Carling Cup Round 4
03/11/09 : CL Group Stage, Matchday 4
05/11/09 : UEL Group Stage, Matchday 4
24/11/09 : CL Group Stage, Matchday 5
01/12/09 : Carling Cup Round 5
02/12/09 : UEL Group Stage, Matchday 5
08/12/09 : CL Group Stage, Matchday 6
16/12/09 : UEL Group Stage, Matchday 6
02/01/10 : FA Cup Third Round
05/01/10 : Carling Cup Semi Final, 1st Leg
10/01/10 : African Cup of Nations Starts (4 league games between start and end of tournament)
19/01/10 : Carling Cup Semi Final, 1st Leg
23/01/10 : FA Cup Fourth Round

28/01/10 : **** Dream Team Transfer Window 2 Opens ****
31/01/10 : African Cup of Nations Ends
08/02/10 : **** Dream Team Transfer Window 2 Closes ****

13/02/10 : FA Cup Fifth Round
16/02/10 : CL 1st Knockout Round, 1st Leg
18/02/10 : UEL Round of 32, 1st Leg
24/02/10 : CL 1st Knockout Round, 1st Leg
25/02/10 : UEL Round of 32, 2nd Leg
28/02/10 : Carling Cup Final (Wembley Stadium)
06/03/10 : FA Cup Quarter Final
09/03/10 : CL 1st Knockout Round, 2nd Leg
11/03/10 : UEL Round of 16, 1st Leg
17/03/10 : CL 1st Knockout Round, 2nd Leg
18/03/10 : UEL Round of 16, 2nd Leg

24/03/10 : **** Dream Team Transfer Window 3 Opens ****
30/03/10 : CL Quarter Final, 1st leg
01/04/10 : UEL Quarter Final, 1st Leg
06/04/10 : **** Dream Team Transfer Window 3 Closes ****

06/04/10 : CL Quarter Final, 2nd leg
08/04/10 : UEL Quarter Final, 2nd Leg
10/04/10 : FA Cup Semi Final
20/04/10 : CL Semi Final, 1st leg
22/04/10 : UEL Semi Final, 1st Leg
27/04/10 : CL Semi Final, 2nd leg
29/04/10 : UEL Semi Final, 1st Leg
09/05/10 : Premier League  Ends
12/05/10 : UEL Final (Arena Hamburg, Germany)
15/05/10 : Fa Cup Final (Wembley Stadium)
22/05/10 : CL Final (Santiago Bernabéu, Madrid)

11/06/10 : World Cup Finals Start (South Africa)

Premiership Rounds Between Transfer Windows
Start of Season to TW1 : 8 Games
TW1 to TW2             : 12 Games
TW2 to TW3             : 12 Games
TW3 to End of Season   : 6 games

"Potential" UEFA Europa League Games (UEL)   : 21 (of which 17 would count for DT)
"Potential" Champions Leagues Games (CL)     : 19 (of which 15 or 17 would count for DT) - 17 Arsenal (due to play off game)
"Potential" FA Cup Games (excluding replays) : 6
"Potential" Carling Cup Games                : 8

"Potential" = If they reach the final!

Hope this helps.

ralph · **Joined:** Sat Oct 28 2006 **Posts:** 1117

Zarch your a gent and a scholar a big thanks mate.

Dot · **Joined:** Fri Jan 06 2006 **Posts:** 18372

quote of opening post deleted - zim

Zarch do you ever have any time for Vices like, drinking, smoking, picking your nose and masturbating?

Erased Citizen · **Posted:** 14 Jul 2009, 10:34

LMFAO

We would all be lost without his stats though!

Rick · **Posted:** 14 Jul 2009, 10:38

Excellent stuff Zarch, don't forget the Carling Cup 2nd round.

Zarch · **Posted:** 14 Jul 2009, 10:44

Rick wrote:

Excellent stuff Zarch, don't forget the Carling Cup 2nd round.

Damn, bound to have missed something Rick...... added!

Dot · **Joined:** Fri Jan 06 2006 **Posts:** 18372

quote of opening post deleted - zim

Does one require a time machine to make transfers in January Zarch?

28/01/10 : **** Dream Team Transfer Window 2 Opens ****
06/01/10 : **** Dream Team Transfer Window 2 Closes ****

Zarch · **Posted:** 14 Jul 2009, 10:59

Dot wrote:

Does one require a time machine to make transfers in January Zarch?

Fixed.

Does one require a lesson in the use of the "quote" button? :wink:

Dot · **Joined:** Fri Jan 06 2006 **Posts:** 18372

quote of above post deleted - zim

No it wouldnt let me paste a different colour onto your paste so it took several attempts ugly.

What was u up to shaking hands with a stranger???

the-postman · **Posted:** 14 Jul 2009, 11:22

nice work mick..i hope your not neglecting the garden and mrs zarch :shock:

jeffmcgow · **Joined:** Thu Oct 13 2005 **Posts:** 375

Zarch wrote:

Hope this helps.

It most certainly does. Thanks for the effort.

Ps You've missed off :
16/08/09 Dot mildly criticises the NOTW ratings
17/08/09 Dot rings the Sun
23/08/09 Dot slates the NOTW ratings
24/08/09 Dot rings the Sun
30/08/09 Dot blows his top at Turner's 3rd consecutive Defender of the day
31/08/09 Dot rings the Sun and insists that they reverse the charges.

Dreamteam on fiso - don't you just love it!

Zarch · **Posted:** 21 Jul 2009, 09:25

African Cup of Nations
If a player plays for a team who get to the Carling Cup semi-final, he could easily miss as many as 8 games if he heads off to the African Cup of Nations.

Otherwise, he will probably miss around 5 or 6 due to league games and the FA Cup 3rd & 4th rounds.

Internationals
Also added the International matches 3 days before the Premiership season starts. As well as the other 2 international breaks in 2009.

Zarch · **Posted:** 03 Aug 2009, 07:40

Updated the list now that the Europa League "Play-off" and Champions League "Play-off" games DO COUNT towards dream team.

Its all down to the wording of the tie's from UEFA.

European "Qualifiers" still DO NOT count, but "Play-offs" DO count.

yorvikreds · **Joined:** Sun Jan 20 2008 **Posts:** 21

I am still confused The BBC site are listing the play off games as qualifying......

Uefa Champions League Qualifying
Celtic v Arsenal, Play, L1, 19:45

does this game count?

tia

Zarch · **Posted:** 13 Aug 2009, 07:09

yorvikreds wrote:

I am still confused The BBC site are listing the play off games as qualifying......

Uefa Champions League Qualifying
Celtic v Arsenal, Play, L1, 19:45

does this game count?

tia

Yes they do. Its says "PLAY" in your quote. They are Qualifying "playoffs".

johnmc · **Posted:** 17 Aug 2009, 01:27

You lads are winding me up, surely? :lol:

These playoffs are qualifying rounds inorder to enter the comps proper. They have never counted in the past towards DT scoring.

Zarch · **Posted:** 17 Aug 2009, 08:27

johnmc wrote:

They have never counted in the past towards DT scoring.

Correct John, qualifying games have never counted, but they've classed these new play-off games differently...... its in this season's T&C's.

T&C's wrote:

"Eligible Matches" are Premier League, FA Cup and Europa League matches (in which a Premier League club plays), UEFA Champions League matches (in which a Premier League club plays) and Carling Cup matches (in which a Premier League club plays) for the 2009/2010 season only. Qualifying rounds for the Champions League and Europa League are not Eligible Matches, but the new play-off rounds in each of these tournaments are Eligible Matches. International matches are not Eligible Matches.

johnmc · **Posted:** 17 Aug 2009, 14:43

Zarch wrote:

johnmc wrote:

They have never counted in the past towards DT scoring.

Correct John, qualifying games have never counted, but they've classed these new play-off games differently...... its in this season's T&C's.

T&C's wrote:

"Eligible Matches" are Premier League, FA Cup and Europa League matches (in which a Premier League club plays), UEFA Champions League matches (in which a Premier League club plays) and Carling Cup matches (in which a Premier League club plays) for the 2009/2010 season only. Qualifying rounds for the Champions League and Europa League are not Eligible Matches, but the new play-off rounds in each of these tournaments are Eligible Matches. International matches are not Eligible Matches.

I DON'T BELIEVE IT!
I've broken the 1st of the 10 commandments and am now going to pay "Thou shalt always read the rules thouroughly".
Dear FF Gods I honestly thought I read them properly and when I read European qualifiers didn't count I took them at their word. What a to$$er I am. If I get my prayer mat out can you change it back to what I thought I read rather than what I should have read please. :oops:

In all my years of playing ff games I've never buggered up so much. :roll:

Well done for those of you that spotted this. Wish I had been more switched on :!:

Dot · **Joined:** Fri Jan 06 2006 **Posts:** 18372

johnmc wrote:

Zarch wrote:

johnmc wrote:

They have never counted in the past towards DT scoring.

Correct John, qualifying games have never counted, but they've classed these new play-off games differently...... its in this season's T&C's.

T&C's wrote:

"Eligible Matches" are Premier League, FA Cup and Europa League matches (in which a Premier League club plays), UEFA Champions League matches (in which a Premier League club plays) and Carling Cup matches (in which a Premier League club plays) for the 2009/2010 season only. Qualifying rounds for the Champions League and Europa League are not Eligible Matches, but the new play-off rounds in each of these tournaments are Eligible Matches. International matches are not Eligible Matches.

I DON'T BELIEVE IT!
I've broken the 1st of the 10 commandments and am now going to pay "Thou shalt always read the rules thouroughly".
Dear FF Gods I honestly thought I read them properly and when I read European qualifiers didn't count I took them at their word. What a to$$er I am. If I get my prayer mat out can you change it back to what I thought I read rather than what I should have read please. :oops:

In all my years of playing ff games I've never buggered up so much. :roll:

Well done for those of you that spotted this. Wish I had been more switched on :!:

Mate they CHANGED the rules.
It definately was not in there the day we visisted the SUN, infact we all commented on that particular fact in that one of us would of spotted it when they told us play off deciders were included.
Zarch even got the tinternet up on his phone to show what we knew, what they said, did not correspond with the rules. :shock:

THEY CHANGED IT HASTILY- as they did last season on the 20 points bono for top individual scorer. So it aint necessarily your fault you probably just didnt re-read the rules nearer the off so to speak.

Zarch · **Posted:** 17 Aug 2009, 15:16

Dot wrote:

Mate they CHANGED the rules.
It definately was not in there the day we visisted the SUN, infact we all commented on that particular fact in that one of us would of spotted it when they told us play off deciders were included.
Zarch even got the tinternet up on his phone to show what we knew, what they said, did not correspond with the rules. :shock:

THEY CHANGED IT HASTILY- as they did last season on the 20 points bono for top individual scorer. So it aint necessarily your fault you probably just didnt re-read the rules nearer the off so to speak.

Dot,

You'd think the scoring details and the T&C pages should be singing from the same hymn sheet, but they still don't quite do it. Only the T&C's specifically mention the Play-Off games, whereas the Scoring Details page only says qualifying games don't count. No wonder we are all confused by it.

From Scoring Details wrote:

Players who appear in the official Dream Team Player List score points in Premier League, Champions League, Europa League, FA Cup and Carling Cup matches from Saturday August 15th 2009 until the final game of the season. Qualifying rounds for the Champions League and Europa League do NOT count.

From T&C's wrote:

"Eligible Matches" are Premier League, FA Cup and Europa League matches (in which a Premier League club plays), UEFA Champions League matches (in which a Premier League club plays) and Carling Cup matches (in which a Premier League club plays) for the 2009/2010 season only. Qualifying rounds for the Champions League and Europa League are not Eligible Matches, but the new play-off rounds in each of these tournaments are Eligible Matches.

I can't be sure that on that boozy afternoon in the curry house I didn't look at the "Scoring Details" part of the website from my phone rather than the T&C's. :roll:

Dot · **Joined:** Fri Jan 06 2006 **Posts:** 18372

Zarch wrote:

Dot wrote:

Mate they CHANGED the rules.
It definately was not in there the day we visisted the SUN, infact we all commented on that particular fact in that one of us would of spotted it when they told us play off deciders were included.
Zarch even got the tinternet up on his phone to show what we knew, what they said, did not correspond with the rules. :shock:

THEY CHANGED IT HASTILY- as they did last season on the 20 points bono for top individual scorer. So it aint necessarily your fault you probably just didnt re-read the rules nearer the off so to speak.

Dot,

You'd think the scoring details and the T&C pages should be singing from the same hymn sheet, but they still don't quite do it. Only the T&C's specifically mention the Play-Off games, whereas the Scoring Details page only says qualifying games don't count. No wonder we are all confused by it.

From Scoring Details wrote:

Players who appear in the official Dream Team Player List score points in Premier League, Champions League, Europa League, FA Cup and Carling Cup matches from Saturday August 15th 2009 until the final game of the season. Qualifying rounds for the Champions League and Europa League do NOT count.

From T&C's wrote:

"Eligible Matches" are Premier League, FA Cup and Europa League matches (in which a Premier League club plays), UEFA Champions League matches (in which a Premier League club plays) and Carling Cup matches (in which a Premier League club plays) for the 2009/2010 season only. Qualifying rounds for the Champions League and Europa League are not Eligible Matches, but the new play-off rounds in each of these tournaments are Eligible Matches.

I can't be sure that on that boozy afternoon in the curry house I didn't look at the "Scoring Details" part of the website from my phone rather than the T&C's. :roll:

I dont recall when you showed me , might of been when you got the unemployed out in the khazi and asked if i was impressed? i do recall down sarf i said we aint impressed with 2-inches of snarling grisselle and ginger pubes.
Yet what i do recall is when they all said in the 'meet and greet' that play offs scores are included this season, all 11 of us looked at one another in astonishment as it definately was not in any T/C'S.
i reckon Tony Warner was late getting down the pub as he hasilty amended the rules.
I for one was not into using Arsenal players pre the ist window as they missed out on a game, with the Suns late admission to us without realising it was in the rules, Arsenal went from minus 1 game to plus 1 game and suddenly became attractive( sub to beating the scots)

jeffmcgow · **Joined:** Thu Oct 13 2005 **Posts:** 375

Zarch wrote:

16/02/10 : CL 1st Knockout Round, 1st Leg
18/02/10 : UEL Round of 32, 1st Leg
24/02/10 : CL 1st Knockout Round, 1st Leg
25/02/10 : UEL Round of 32, 2nd Leg
28/02/10 : Carling Cup Final (Wembley Stadium)
06/03/10 : FA Cup Quarter Final
09/03/10 : CL 1st Knockout Round, 2nd Leg
11/03/10 : UEL Round of 16, 1st Leg
17/03/10 : CL 1st Knockout Round, 2nd Leg

Zarch, I just wanted to check these fixtures. I think you've counted these as 4 games because you've arrived at 17 matches for Arsenal, 15 for Chelsea/Man Utd/Liverpool. It's probably the case that they'll play 1/2 of the round of 16 1st leg on the 16th and 1/2 of the round of 16 1st leg on the 24th. Ditto the 2nd leg. So the 4 games is actually only 2.

I think the total is 13 made up of: 6 group match days; 2 round of 16 legs; 2 QF legs; 2 semi legs; a final (+ 2 play offs for Arsenal.)

Apologies if I've messed up with this logic.

DAZMANNO1 · **Posted:** 19 Sep 2009, 11:35

the sun dont seem to have put the scores up for the international matches at all .......5/9/09 and 9/9/09 , i would of known it seeing as fat frank , scrapper stevie , and shrek all scored ???

Zarch · **Posted:** 07 Oct 2009, 08:51

Brought to the top as a few people have been asking questions about games during the TW1-TW2 period.

ralph · **Joined:** Sat Oct 28 2006 **Posts:** 1117

why this is not a sticky is beyond me come on mods sort it out lads :wink:

Zimmerman · **Posted:** 11 Oct 2009, 17:22

There is a link to it in the Zarch FAQ thread (which IS a sticky).

We have to make a call on what is a sticky and what isnt (otherwise we'd end up half way down the page before getting to the "active" threads.

goldenshilling · **Joined:** Thu Jun 26 2008 **Posts:** 126

This was a great little help for me last year, just wondering if anybody had done one for this season???

Que lots of comments telling me to do it myself!!

ArmChairPundit · **Joined:** Sat Jul 25 2009 **Posts:** 255

Hey Zarch this was really handy last season thanks, have you got a Season Diary for 10/11?
Cheers

Zimmerman · **Posted:** 30 Aug 2010, 12:08

this any good to you?

post1612852.html#p1612852

ArmChairPundit · **Joined:** Sat Jul 25 2009 **Posts:** 255

Bingo!
Cheers Zimm

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