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 Post subject: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 06 Jan 2012, 22:15 
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Seems like a silly question but is it?

Sturridge has been far more consistent although Aguero has been more explosive but is he really worth around 4m more?


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 06 Jan 2012, 22:40 
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For me without a doubt yes he is worth 4M more, Aguero is & will be in my team until end of season, 1st forward down on team sheet for me. I have had a settled front line of Aguero/Van Persie/Ba for a while now which I will probably add Sturridge to whilst Ba is missing due ANC.

Can you not have both?


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 06 Jan 2012, 22:45 
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I can but I'm looking for the perfect balance, at the moment I got Van Persie, Aguero and Yakubu but if Aguero became Sturridge it would make my team so much more stronger and balanced.

I think Aguero will do well but I think Sturridge won't be far behind, that's my dilemma.


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 06 Jan 2012, 22:57 
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Sturridge is by a distance the better pick.

Aguero scored 8 goals in his first 5 games, but has only 6 in his last 14 games. As pointed out, he'll be explosive, but Sturridge will be more consistent.

Aguero has scored in 9 of his 19 games this season (47%), while Sturridge has scored in 8 of his 15 games this season (53%).

I think it's a bit of a no brainer with Mancini seemingly subbing him around the 70 minute mark in every game, especially when you're going to be saving so much money.

Also, expect Sturridge to be even more of a focal point for Chelsea with Drogba away at the ACN.


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 06 Jan 2012, 23:01 
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I alss wonder what the statsd look like if you look from January 2011-December 2011. i know Aguero was not in the Premeirship but would be interested to see how it stacks up to Sturridge stats including last years loan spell to Bolton.


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 06 Jan 2012, 23:04 
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I can see your thinking, however for me its too much of a risk to not have Aguero, he scores points nearly every game & has played in every league game except 1 this season, but thats just my opinion, i'm a great believer in going with you instict, be a master of your own destiny & not a follower.

I'm still undecided on who to bring in to replace Ba, my team is ok for now & i have been scoring well recentley, so i will hold on for Wildcard until after internationals & new transfer window players, but my instinct is telling me to go for Best for now & get Dempsey in. But as i say i'm in no rush, will sit tight & see what injuries/transfers happen before next GW.

Good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 06 Jan 2012, 23:30 
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That's a fair point but if I didn't have Aguero then I would have Silva so in a way I feel it could be covered.

I want Aguero but I also want the perfect squad.

Sturridge fits better but I think Aguero will score more although other areas will score better without him.


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 06 Jan 2012, 23:52 
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One thing AVB should take credit for in what has been a bad season for him & Chelsea so far, is making Sturridge his No.1 forward, not many managers would have the dogs swingers to put him ahead of Drogba & Torres, but fair play to him.

I think Chelsea badly need a new striker, they should off load Drogba/Torres in Jan & bring in a forward to compliment Sturridge & form a deadly strike force & make Chelsea a team to be feared again, as at the moment they are an average team who make hard work of scoring & winning games.

They are very static, slow & predictable & need some young fresh blood added to the team to give them fluidity to match Sturridge.


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 07 Jan 2012, 00:03 
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Agree 100%


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 07 Jan 2012, 01:16 
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brownie30 wrote:
One thing AVB should take credit for in what has been a bad season for him & Chelsea so far, is making Sturridge his No.1 forward, not many managers would have the dogs swingers to put him ahead of Drogba & Torres, but fair play to him..


Doesnt sound like you've watched much of them this year mate. Sturridge is playing on one side of a front 3 with either Torres or Drogba spearheading the attack.

As for the original question its difficult to answer because of the vast difference in price. Both are great value at their price imo.


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 07 Jan 2012, 16:20 
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Sturridge ... 4m elsewhere in the team


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 07 Jan 2012, 16:23 
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Depends on who Chelsea buy.

Assuming you are getting Silva with the cash, then it looks solid, at the moment.


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 07 Jan 2012, 16:49 
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Aguero offers consistency, which you can't say about all the forwards. I think he'll get even stronger as the season goes on too.

It'd be nice to have him and RVP up top, though it's a lot of cash...


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 Post subject: Re: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 07 Jan 2012, 17:25 
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Super Hans wrote:
I also want the perfect squad.


We hear that! :grin:

I say Sturridge too just based on cost as Aguero should edge him for points. Not having City attacking coverage would be my concern ~ but who am I to comment on that. :-P


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
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I think I'm gonna keep Aguero and just have one 10.5 mfer instead of two.

With Aguero its Gerrard or Nani, Bale, Dempsey, Sessengon and Cabaye

With Sturridge its Gerrard or Nani, Bale, Dempsey, Silva and Ben Arfa.

I think I can get away with the midfield with Aguero.


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
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So it boils down to:

Aguero / Sessegnon / Cabaye or Sturridge / Silva / Ben Arfa

Take out the City and Newcastle attack:

Sessegnon or Sturridge

It's close. I would keep an eye to see if Ben Arfa is playing up front, which is quite likely - or off the striker. How will Tiote's absence relate to Cabaye? Would you rather have a Chelsea or Sunderland attacking player?

Just thought I'd mix it up for you. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
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Aguero for me as he scores more goals and plays in a more central role.

I understand that Sturridge is around 4m cheaper, so better value, but you have to spend your money somewhere. For example 4m could upgrade Walters to Nani or Silva but are they really going to get many more points than Stokes 90min penalty taking striker?


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 07 Jan 2012, 23:38 
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Hold onto Aguero... until Ba is back.

Chelsea are not to be trusted


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 08 Jan 2012, 15:37 
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Thread dead, Kompany getting sent off makes my mind up for me.

For the first time this season, Hola David Silva!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 08 Jan 2012, 15:41 
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He may only miss one League game, but Citeh need an equaliser for it to happen, I think...


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 08 Jan 2012, 15:50 
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blahblah wrote:
He may only miss one League game, but Citeh need an equaliser for it to happen, I think...


Isn't it a 4 game ban as it's his 2nd red of the season?


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 08 Jan 2012, 15:52 
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One will be the LC, not sure of the second leg date - or likely FA replay date. Not long left for the equaliser, though............


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 08 Jan 2012, 16:07 
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He misses 4 games apparently.


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
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Only 2 League games, though. Wig (a) and Spurs (h).


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 08 Jan 2012, 16:39 
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I'm on my wc, I don't need to carry a player for two games.


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 08 Jan 2012, 20:34 
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Super Hans wrote:
I can but I'm looking for the perfect balance, at the moment I got Van Persie, Aguero and Yakubu but if Aguero became Sturridge it would make my team so much more stronger and balanced.

I think Aguero will do well but I think Sturridge won't be far behind, that's my dilemma.

Maybe too specific for this thread but what do you mean by balance? Do you mean you want midfield, front and back contributing equally? If so why? Why care if, for instance, all your points are coming from midfield - if that's where the scorers are then so be it, it's how many, not were from, that counts. I'm always confused when people talk about balance and as you normally provide thought through insight I thought I'd pick on you.

Personally, if Lamps, Gerrard, Fab, Nani and Silva were all at their peak at the same time I'd happily have a forward line of Gower, Helguson and Holt to enable it.


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
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hancockjr wrote:
Super Hans wrote:
I can but I'm looking for the perfect balance, at the moment I got Van Persie, Aguero and Yakubu but if Aguero became Sturridge it would make my team so much more stronger and balanced.

I think Aguero will do well but I think Sturridge won't be far behind, that's my dilemma.

Maybe too specific for this thread but what do you mean by balance? Do you mean you want midfield, front and back contributing equally? If so why? Why care if, for instance, all your points are coming from midfield - if that's where the scorers are then so be it, it's how many, not were from, that counts. I'm always confused when people talk about balance and as you normally provide thought through insight I thought I'd pick on you.

Personally, if Lamps, Gerrard, Fab, Nani and Silva were all at their peak at the same time I'd happily have a forward line of Gower, Helguson and Holt to enable it.


I can only speak from my own experience this season, all year I've had Rooney (after his hatricks) van Persie and Aguero with Kompany and Richards at the back and VDV and lately Bale in mf, a result of this is I've had players like Nathan Dyer and Bradley Johnson as bench fodder, that plan is ok if your big guns are in form and playing but when they are not or happen to get rested then the weakness of your squad let's you down and it has done me, had it not been for doubling up on Swansea and Newcastles defences then I would be doing a lot worse then now even though I've been recovering with a run of 8 or 9 green arrows.

I've done that for half a season now and its a risk too far, I've watched teams in my league score consistently well and bailed out loads of times through the strength of their benches.

That's what I want for the second half of the season, more balance and less being over reliant on 3 or 4 players.

My wc team will consist of 15 players that I would happily play depending on fixtures, no more Dyer's or Johnson's.


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 09 Jan 2012, 17:41 
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I think Aguero is a strong risk of being rotated vs Wigan.


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 09 Jan 2012, 17:51 
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Man City's fixtures are brilliant until the end of the season.

Aguero is coming into my team next week for the rest of the season, and he'll be joining Sturridge in there. He is the main man for City, and whilst he is subbed off almost every game...his PPM speak for themselves.

I personally dont want to go into the second half of the season without him.


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 Post subject: Re: Sturridge or Aguero?
PostPosted: 09 Jan 2012, 21:41 
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Carlb5253 wrote:
I think Aguero is a strong risk of being rotated vs Wigan.


I think he may get a rest against Liverpool in the CC instead. Surely the league is more important now? I guess it depends on the fitness of the other strikers at the moment.


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