Sturridge or Aguero?

Carlb5253 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 14 2011 **Posts:** 561

Yeah but it's Wigan

RidleyMTB · **Joined:** Sat Nov 04 2006 **Posts:** 1551

Yes but West Brom were only West Brom and Sunderland were only Sunderland :wink:

supersonic · **Joined:** Tue Aug 30 2011 **Posts:** 44

If its such a tough decision make room for both! I have

Carlb5253 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 14 2011 **Posts:** 561

I think that was more down to Silva not playing in them games, at least vs Sunderland.

City were very unlucky vs West Brom

RidleyMTB · **Joined:** Sat Nov 04 2006 **Posts:** 1551

What would they be resting him for though if it wasn't for the CC SF's? I guess we will have more of an idea on Weds.

hancockjr · **Posted:** 10 Jan 2012, 00:02

Super Hans wrote:

hancockjr wrote:

Super Hans wrote:

I can but I'm looking for the perfect balance, at the moment I got Van Persie, Aguero and Yakubu but if Aguero became Sturridge it would make my team so much more stronger and balanced.

I think Aguero will do well but I think Sturridge won't be far behind, that's my dilemma.

Maybe too specific for this thread but what do you mean by balance? Do you mean you want midfield, front and back contributing equally? If so why? Why care if, for instance, all your points are coming from midfield - if that's where the scorers are then so be it, it's how many, not were from, that counts. I'm always confused when people talk about balance and as you normally provide thought through insight I thought I'd pick on you.

Personally, if Lamps, Gerrard, Fab, Nani and Silva were all at their peak at the same time I'd happily have a forward line of Gower, Helguson and Holt to enable it.

I can only speak from my own experience this season, all year I've had Rooney (after his hatricks) van Persie and Aguero with Kompany and Richards at the back and VDV and lately Bale in mf, a result of this is I've had players like Nathan Dyer and Bradley Johnson as bench fodder, that plan is ok if your big guns are in form and playing but when they are not or happen to get rested then the weakness of your squad let's you down and it has done me, had it not been for doubling up on Swansea and Newcastles defences then I would be doing a lot worse then now even though I've been recovering with a run of 8 or 9 green arrows.

I've done that for half a season now and its a risk too far, I've watched teams in my league score consistently well and bailed out loads of times through the strength of their benches.

That's what I want for the second half of the season, more balance and less being over reliant on 3 or 4 players.

My wc team will consist of 15 players that I would happily play depending on fixtures, no more Dyer's or Johnson's.

But aren't you talking about have Silva instead of Aguero? One is 10.4 and the other 11.1; doesn't seem to change the balance between "a few big expensive players" and "avoiding the cheapies" much?

Super Hans · **Joined:** Fri Jul 10 2009 **Posts:** 2597

Having Silva instead of Aguero has nothing to do with me trying to find balance, whether I have Aguero or not I still have a place for a 10.5mfer without my pre wildcard team which was based around 3 big strikers and trying to make do it other areas.

Let me put it to you like this, this week my bench will be Vorm, Dempsey, Sessenagon and Caulker.

Last week it was Ruddy, Johnson, Dyer, Simpson.

There's a big difference, having 3 big strikers meant I had too many enablers to fit them in.

hancockjr · **Posted:** 10 Jan 2012, 00:15

Ok thanks. I'm sort of interested as I've just gone to the bother of getting Surnam, as I was fed up with having a reasonably priced mid or forward on the bench each week (Sinclair, Richardson, Ramsey, Yak etc) but poorer defenders playing (due to the three must play rule). So Surnam will generally warm my bench now. Seems a waste of money to have such expensive benchwarmers to me, but I may be over doing it. I'll think again.

Super Hans · **Joined:** Fri Jul 10 2009 **Posts:** 2597

That's what I'm saying mate, I tried that for the first half and it didn't work for me so switching tactics now, I feel this is quite balanced now and im happy with the spread..

Lindergaard

Simpson Lescott Richards Smalling
Bale 10.5mdfer Ben Arfa
Van Persie Aguero Yakubu

Vorm, Dempsey, Sessenagon, Caulker.

I'm happy now as I got 15 players I would happily play, before I had about 11/12 and filled too many gaps.

Carlb5253 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 14 2011 **Posts:** 561

What about downgrading Sessegnon and upgrading Dempsey?

Seems a waste to have so much on the bench

Kezuale · **Posted:** 10 Jan 2012, 01:28

Super Hans wrote:

That's what I'm saying mate, I tried that for the first half and it didn't work for me so switching tactics now, I feel this is quite balanced now and im happy with the spread..

Lindergaard

Simpson Lescott Richards Smalling
Bale 10.5mdfer Ben Arfa
Van Persie Aguero Yakubu

Vorm, Dempsey, Sessenagon, Caulker.

I'm happy now as I got 15 players I would happily play, before I had about 11/12 and filled too many gaps.

Mate, I don't understand... You keep banging on about having 15 solid players who are starters and you come up with Lindergaard, Smalling and Ben Arfa who are such a doubts, that not even their managers know if they are going to play next week. Not to mention doubling up on United and Swansea (payed off for some can't argue but still). Plus Kompany will be back in 2 GWs so Lescott is practically short term...

Carlb5253 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 14 2011 **Posts:** 561

Lescott will still be in when Kompany returns.

Kolo is at the ACN

Kezuale · **Posted:** 10 Jan 2012, 03:13

Carlb5253 wrote:

Lescott will still be in when Kompany returns.

Kolo is at the ACN

True, very true

Super Hans · **Joined:** Fri Jul 10 2009 **Posts:** 2597

Kezuale wrote:

Super Hans wrote:

That's what I'm saying mate, I tried that for the first half and it didn't work for me so switching tactics now, I feel this is quite balanced now and im happy with the spread..

Lindergaard

Simpson Lescott Richards Smalling
Bale 10.5mdfer Ben Arfa
Van Persie Aguero Yakubu

Vorm, Dempsey, Sessenagon, Caulker.

I'm happy now as I got 15 players I would happily play, before I had about 11/12 and filled too many gaps.

Mate, I don't understand... You keep banging on about having 15 solid players who are starters and you come up with Lindergaard, Smalling and Ben Arfa who are such a doubts, that not even their managers know if they are going to play next week. Not to mention doubling up on United and Swansea (payed off for some can't argue but still). Plus Kompany will be back in 2 GWs so Lescott is practically short term...

What's not to understand? It's pretty clear, I have 15 players that I am happy to start, notice the word I, granted players will get rotated, van Persie, Rooney, Nani, Silva have all missed games but that is neither here nor there, I am free of 2 point bench fodder that I won't want to select and only sit on my bench and who no longer will be called upon to combat such restings, you follow brother???????

Lindergaard is not an issue, Smalling will play as the rest of their defence has been poor and Ben Arfa ain't getting benched with Ba away and having just scored a wonder goal, I guess the idea is to be proactive and not reactive and not trying to be a week behind with every single player.

Whether Kompany is away for 2 games or not, Toure is away for much longer so Lescott will play every game unless Stefan Savic has jumped above him in the pecking order, thanks for your thoughts and suggestions, ill pass on this one.

Super Hans · **Joined:** Fri Jul 10 2009 **Posts:** 2597

Carlb5253 wrote:

What about downgrading Sessegnon and upgrading Dempsey?

Seems a waste to have so much on the bench

Thought about it, thing is I like Dempsey's form and fixtures, Sessenagon is also looking Sharp, I would only upgrade him to Gerrard, Valencia or Nani as I have Aguero so can't have Silva, each come with their own risk as I reckon Nani will get rested soon as Fergie has been pulling him off and leaving Valencia on, will any 3 really do better in the next 3? I will also be having one in my 10.5 space so will I really want 2 of them and no Dempsey?

I'm going for flexibility as having a rigid squad has not worked so I have no issue benching anyone that's not 10m+

Robin Write · **Posted:** 10 Jan 2012, 22:59

Just be prepared for the occasions when you have big scores remain on your bench while a couple of your first eleven bag 1 or 2 - consistent high scoring bench players can eat you down to the bone...

Super Hans · **Joined:** Fri Jul 10 2009 **Posts:** 2597

Yeah, that's the downside but that happens now anyway, that's called sods law, the positive outweighs the negative as there are more weeks when 1 and 2 points come on.

westofshannonsaint · **Joined:** Sat Aug 28 2010 **Posts:** 93

Super Hans wrote:

Thought about it, thing is I like Dempsey's form and fixtures, Sessenagon is also looking Sharp, I would only upgrade him to Gerrard, Valencia or Nani as I have Aguero so can't have Silva

I like Dempsey too & i'm tempted, but Valencia is £.5 cheaper.

splimsplam · **Posted:** 12 Jan 2012, 16:55

Super Hans wrote:

hancockjr wrote:

Super Hans wrote:

I can but I'm looking for the perfect balance, at the moment I got Van Persie, Aguero and Yakubu but if Aguero became Sturridge it would make my team so much more stronger and balanced.

I think Aguero will do well but I think Sturridge won't be far behind, that's my dilemma.

Maybe too specific for this thread but what do you mean by balance? Do you mean you want midfield, front and back contributing equally? If so why? Why care if, for instance, all your points are coming from midfield - if that's where the scorers are then so be it, it's how many, not were from, that counts. I'm always confused when people talk about balance and as you normally provide thought through insight I thought I'd pick on you.

Personally, if Lamps, Gerrard, Fab, Nani and Silva were all at their peak at the same time I'd happily have a forward line of Gower, Helguson and Holt to enable it.

I can only speak from my own experience this season, all year I've had Rooney (after his hatricks) van Persie and Aguero with Kompany and Richards at the back and VDV and lately Bale in mf, a result of this is I've had players like Nathan Dyer and Bradley Johnson as bench fodder, that plan is ok if your big guns are in form and playing but when they are not or happen to get rested then the weakness of your squad let's you down and it has done me, had it not been for doubling up on Swansea and Newcastles defences then I would be doing a lot worse then now even though I've been recovering with a run of 8 or 9 green arrows.

I've done that for half a season now and its a risk too far, I've watched teams in my league score consistently well and bailed out loads of times through the strength of their benches.

That's what I want for the second half of the season, more balance and less being over reliant on 3 or 4 players.

My wc team will consist of 15 players that I would happily play depending on fixtures, no more Dyer's or Johnson's.

I am trying to create a more balanced team with my WC. I keep getting rinsed with the likes of Joe Allen or Grant Holt only getting 15 mins!

My dilema at the moment is surrounding Aguero as well. I would ideally like to keep him but that would mean sacrificing someone like Sessegnon for Dyer. So I'm currently thinking Adebayor and keeping Sessegnon.. I took the decsion to ditch Sturridge and go for the Yak. Its certainly a difficult juggling act.

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