I buy the Sun for it's football/racing coverage, which for me is the best bar none and not just value for money.

I think certain other papers are bogshite with their coverage of both of the above especially on Saturdays with the Suns multitude of pages devoted to sport.

Anyway when i look at team line-ups i heed what the Sun says but also have a look on a Saturday on what the projected line-ups are in the Guardian.

To be fair i dont know many other papers that do projected line-ups, maybe they do but i dont scan the net to check.


The Sun have controversially come out with a bold prediction today in that United will drop De-dropalot, lets be fair he has been pants so far so i can see where they come from. They also believe Tevez will start-( so does the guardian for that matter, christ so do i even)..

Anyway ain't done my WDT yet so after i finish i'm going to take a closer look, now i have bought the Sun, and compare the team line-ups for today and the next few weeks to see which paper gets the best results on starting line-ups.

Other interesting tips from each paper

The Sun reckons fruitcake starts for Man City (ballonutter)
The Guardian reckons Dzeko misses out.


Hopefully i'll have time to stick up the line-ups before 3 today, even if i dont it wont matter as i will get round to it today.

Do either have Coleman back for Everton? OFL reckon he's out for another month, Sporting Life have him in the squad.

The shite(for football news) Sportinglife.com have Coleman fit again and returning to the squad.
I'm not sure if Sportinglife.com paste their summarys from Ceefax football news or vice versa.


In answer to your question neither the Sun or Guardian have Coleman in the starting line ups.

Daily mail also has Tevez starting with Dzeko benched Also Nasri missing from the lineup.
Cahill up front for Everton whio has scored more goals against Villa than any other opponent.

With all due respect Chrispy i think the Daily Mail is the Acrington Stanley of this thread if they ever aspired to be able to compete.

(fwiw the guardian have that stat--
Tim Cahill has scored six top-flight goals in 10 games against the visitors, more than against any other side he has faced)

still doing my wdt so have not yet had time to stick up the heavyweight bash predicted line-ups.

feel free to compare them with the mail after 3 pm and quash my comments though.

Do any have Nasri down as playing?

NO Sun
YES- Guardian

Nasri has a poorly pinky doesnt he?


And whilst Cahill has scored more against Villa more than any other opponent… he hasnt scored since 20th December
Although looking at it further; 7 starts and 6 sub appearances.

I think Nasri and Tevez will both start, replacing Aguero.

The papers are hit and miss really, don't think you can ever fully trust them.

The Mirror has Tevez playing instead of Aguero, no Nasri, but they do have Barry in which is probably wrong.

I usually buy The Sun and the Mirror on a Saturday, they normally know what's going on between them.

It's not a case of trust it's a case of who gets more info correct as i think the Sun is good in the respectr of football exclusives, but i also think the Guardian are good on squad sheets on Saturdays.



I'm just going to do this over the coming weeks to see how good either are.


The put your bollocks on the line headline though is the Suns brave call on United calamity keeper.

Aint eard it anywhere else yet.

i dont mind anyone else taking the time to stick up the line-ups from any other paper or rags, but if they do, i want them up in this thread before 3.p.m today- half way thru my wdt's so i will endeavour to get up the Guardian v Sun shortly.

I will add the mail's for you Dot

Lineups for the Mail

Arsenal

Sczesney
Konscielny
Mertesacker
Sagna
gibbs
frimpong
arteta
walcott
ramsey
arshavin
van persie

Swansea

vorm
caulker
williams
taylor
rangel
britton
agustien
dyer
routledge
sinclair
graham

everton

howard
hibbert
jagielka
distin
baines
neville
rodwell
coleman
billy
fallaini
cahill

villa

given
dunne
collins
hutton
warnock
jenas
petrov
n zogbia
agbonhalor
bent
heskey

Man City

Hart
Kompany
Lescott
Zabeletta
Clichy
Milner
Toure
Silva
Balotelli
Tevez
Aguero

Wigan

Al Habsi
Caldwell
Lopez
boyce
figueroa
gomez
watson
diame
moses
rodallega
di santo

Stoke
begovic
Shawcross
Woodgate
Upson
Huth
Whelan
Whitehead
Etherington
Pennant
Crouch
Walters

Pool

reina
agger
caragher
enrique
johnson
adam
lucas
downing
henderson
suarez
carroll

Sunderland

Mignolet
Bramble
Brown
Richardson
Bardsley
Catermole
Gardner
Colback
Larsson
Sessegnon
Bentner

Chelsea
Cech
Terry
Luiz
Cole
Bosingwa
Ramires
Mikel
Lampard
Mata
Torres
Meireless

Wolves

Henessey
Johnson
Berra
Ward
stearman
henry
ohara
hunt
jarvis
doyle
fletcher

spurs

freidel
king
dawson
kaboul
ekotto
modric
parker
lennon
bale
defoe
adebayor

bolton
jaask
cahill
knight
robinson
boyata
reo coker
muamba
petrov
eagles
davies
klasnic

man u

de gea
evans
jones
smalling
evra
anderson
cleverley
nani
young
rooney
hernandez

Norwich

Rudd
Barnet
de laat
tierney
naughton
johnson
curtis
pilkington
bennett
morrison
holt

west brown

foster
olsson
tamas
reid
shorey
brunt
scharner
malumbu
morrison
long
odemwingie

fulham

schwatzer
hangeland
senderos
huse
riise
sidwell
murphy
duff#
dempsey
ruiz
zamora

Blackburn

Robinson
Samba
dann
olsson
salgado
nzonzi
petrovic
vuckevic
hoilett
roberts
yakubu

qpr

kenny
ferdinand
gabidon
young
traore
barton
faurlin
tarrabet
wright phillips
campbell
boothroyd

Newcastle

krul
collocini
taylor
santon
simpson
tiote
cabaye
guitierez
gosling
best
lovenkrands

I've got a bit of time this week and this is something i'm interested in too so here is some of the Mirror's projected teams:

Man City

Hart
Richards
Kompany
Clichy
Y. Toure
Barry
Milner
Johnson
Tevez
Dzeko

Wigan

Al Habsi
Boyce
Caldwell
Piscu
Figuerroa
WAtson
Roddallega
McCartney
Diame
Moses
Di Santo

Arsenal

Szczeny
Kocieiny
Mertesacker
Gibbs
Sanga
Frimpong
Ramsay
Walcott
Arteta
Benayoun
Van Persie

Swansea

Vorm
Rangel
Coulker
Williams
Taylor
Britton
Agustien
Routledge
Dyer
Sinclair
Graham

Sunderland

Mingnolet
Bardsley
Bramble
Brown
Richardson
Larsson
Cattermole
Gardner
Vaughan
Sessegnon
Bentner

Chelsea

Cech
Ivanovic
Luiz
Terry
Cole
Lampard
Mikel
Meireles
Mata
Malouda
Torres

Bolton

Jaask
Steinsson
Knight
Cahill
Robinson
Eagles
M Davies
Muluamba
Reo-Coker
Petrov
K. Davies

Manchester United

De Gea
Smalling
Evans
Jones
Evra
Nani
Cleverly
Anderson
Young
Rooney
Hernandez

Wolves

Hennessey
Stearman
Johnson
Berra
Ward
Jarvis
Henry
O'Hara
Hunt
Doyle
Fletcher

Spurs

Friedal
Walker
King
Kabul
Assou-Ekotto
Bale
Modric
Parker
Kranjcar
Adebayor
Defoe

Stoke

Begovic
Huth
Shawcross
Woodgate
Wilson
Pennant
Palacios
Delap
Etherington
Crouch
Walters (No Jones ?? )

Liverpool

Reina
Johnson
Carragher
Agger
Enrique
Lucas
Adam
Kuyt
Downing
Suarez
Carroll

All I've got time for now, might do some more later.

This is a useful exercise,provided it's done regularly for at least 6 weeks to be fair to all.

Could do with someone with spreadsheet expertise to format it for easy comparison.

Sun V Guardian
==============

Arsenal v Swansea

only difference.

Sun - Taylor
Guardian - Bessone

=====================

Everton v Villa

Sun - Hetinga
Guardian- Rodwell

+

Sun - Hutton
Guardian - Herd

=====================

Man City V Wigan

Sun - Dzeko, Ballotelli
Guardian - Nasri, Aguero

=======================
Stoke V Liverpool

Sun - Upson, Whitehead, Jones
Guardian - Wilson, Palacios, Walters

Sun - Carroll
Guardian - Henderson

========================
Sunderland V Chelsea

Sun - Gardner
Guardian - Vaughan

Sun - Mikel, Meirless, Malouda
Guardian - Ramires, Romeu, Sturridge

=========================

Wolves V SPURS

Sun - King, Krankjar, Defoe
Guardian - Dawson, Lennon, Huddlestone

===========================

Bolton V Man Utd

Sun - M.Davies
Guardian - Klasnic

Sun - Evans, Cleverley
Guardion - Plug, Carrick



======================

Norwich V WBA

Sun - Bennett, Pilkington
Guardian - Fox, Surman

Sun - Thomas
Guardian - Morrison

=========================

Fulham V Blackburn

Sun - Kasami,
Gardian - Dempsey

sun - Givet, Dann, Formica, Petrovic
Guardian - Nelson, Dunn, Yakubu, Vukcevic

===========================

QPR V Newcastle

Sun - Perone, Bothroyd
Guardian - Hall, Faurlin

Sun - Lovekrands
Guardian - Shola Amoebi

=============================

.

I dont do spreadsheets bits of paper for me.

I went and bought that lump of shite mirror to compare after 3pm their line-ups with the EVEN SHITTIER Mail that Crispy kindly put up later.


i'll stick up a running total of correct scores with the 4 papers for next few weeks.
already laughing at Evertons starting 11 from the mail.

I've always found fantasy scout a better predictor than the newspapers. He also gives a small write up on his predicted line up which is useful. When in doubt I compare his line up with the Guardian online. While I don't have any solid stats, I've found him more reliable than the Guardian mostly. A lot of situations boil down to educated guess work. The Tevez/Aguero/Dzecko troika is a point in case. None of them know for sure who will start. At least the fantasy scout gives his thinking on his prediction.

"Given the recent attacking form of Edin Dzeko and Sergio Aguero, Carlos Tevez and Mario Balotelli may have to make do with places on the bench. Although with Tevez rested during the international break, he may well get the nod here after Aguero’s exploits with Argentina."

Predicted Lineup: Hart, Richards, Kompany, Lescott, Clichy; Y Toure, Milner, Silva, Nasri; Tevez, Dzeko.

The Guardian has Tevez starting too, but at the expense of Dzecko. Both of them could be wrong if Balotelli gets the nod. Which is a possibilty with mid week games pending and being at home to weak opposition today.

fantasy scout: http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/team-news/

Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/series/squad-sheets

I don't normally buy the Sun or any newspaper. I prefer to do all my research online. Do the Sun have an online version of their line up predictions?

No problem as i already said i think the Line-ups from the Sun is probably their weak point of their Sport coverage but still think it will fair well with the other papers.


Slighty predict Guardian to come out on top ere over 6 weeks even if that does sound arse about face.

CONFIDSENTLY predict the Mail will be swimming along a mile behind.

I am thinking the mail could actually be more acurate than the sun

everton

howard
Heitinga
jagielka
distin
baines
neville
Barkley
Osman
fallaini
cahill
Stracqularsi

villa

given
dunne
collins
hutton
warnock
jenas
petrov
n zogbia
agbonhalor
bent
heskey

fulham

schwatzer
hangeland
Baird
huse
riise
sidwell
murphy
duff#
Kasami (No Dempsey )
ruiz
zamora

Blackburn

Robinson
Samba
dann
Givet
salgado
nzonzi
petrovic
Olsson
hoilett
roberts
Formica

Sporting Life 1 - 0 Sun & Guardian

They got starting 10 only exception osman for Neville

Look at the bigger picture not individs Vid.

Current score on the 6 games is Sun winning by 2 players with 3 correct starting 11's to Guardians 2.

what about the mail?

The mail

Arsenal 10
Swansea 10

Man City 8
Wigan 10

Stoke 9
Liverpool 9

Sunderland 10
Chelsea 7

Wolves 10
Spurs 11

Everton 10
Villa 10

Bolton 10
Man Utd 10

Norwich 7
WBA 9

Fulham 11
Blackburn 6

QPR 10
Newcastle 9

The Mirror

Arsenal 10
Swansea 10

Man City 9
Wigan 10

Stoke 9
Liverpool 9

Sunderland 10
Chelsea 7

Wolves 10
Spurs 11

Everton 8
Villa 10

Bolton 9
Man Utd 10

Norwich 8
WBA 8

Fulham 9
Blackburn 8

QPR
Newcastle