So is Oxlade-Chamberlain going to get a run now?

AlexSong · **Joined:** Mon Dec 14 2009 **Posts:** 994

Surprised there's not a thread on this lad yet.

Looked quality vs United and we heard with our own ears what the Arsenal fans think of him.

Both flanks are up for grabs imo with Walcott regressing on the right and Gervinho away/ Arshavin being terrible and Henry injured/lacking fitness.

If he has a decent game in the FA Cup at the weekend its going to be hard for Wenger to leave him out in the fpl, no?

Super Hans · **Joined:** Fri Jul 10 2009 **Posts:** 2597

I agree, if he starts and plays well against Villa then he will get a run, saying that, Wenger is stubborn and arrogant, he will hate the fact that the whole ground told him he was wrong to take him off and I wouldn't it past him to bench him because he thinks he knows best and won't like being told what to do.

Definitely a wait and see job.

mcnulty · **Joined:** Fri Dec 31 2010 **Posts:** 415

He may start to get more games but will still be rotated a hell of a lot. I dont think his returns will be good enough as he will get alot of 1 pointers.

hancockjr · **Posted:** 26 Jan 2012, 23:35

I'll go for Arshavin instead then :wink:

GoodfellaLFC · **Joined:** Mon Jul 13 2009 **Posts:** 720

It would be incredible if Wenger persisted with Walcott and Arshavin over Oxlade, I'll wait and see but I think he'd be an attractive, cheap midfielder.

Charade · **Posted:** 27 Jan 2012, 06:54

Got him in--Walcott was dreadful and, well, Arshavin... at any rate I think there's a chance he'll be rested against Bolton and start against Villa (but then it could be vice-versa). I think we might see him play pretty regularly from this point until Gervinho returns at the least.

AlexSong · **Joined:** Mon Dec 14 2009 **Posts:** 994

Was Arsenal's best player again tonight by most accounts.

Surely Wenger isn't oblivious to the fact he's already a better player than Theo Bolt.

I'm going to bring him in for a juicy looking fixture this weekend and will be very mad if he gets benched.

Charade · **Posted:** 03 Feb 2012, 04:23

I have long been behind Theo and hoping he proves himself but after this string of... well, wasted opportunities (he should have buried that one against Bogdan) I am thinking we should just see how much Juve will pay us (have admired him for a while) and be done with it. It's the Ox's time now.

em9999 · **Posted:** 03 Feb 2012, 04:29

chamberlain is first team there is no way in this world wenger will drop our second most dangerous player...

Even when Gervinho comes back...Chamberlain will be the man

AlexSong · **Joined:** Mon Dec 14 2009 **Posts:** 994

Was all set to pull the trigger on him till I read the team news and seen talk of injuries / rotation

Any chance the staring 11 will be known before the deadline?

Charade · **Posted:** 04 Feb 2012, 22:04

12 points and can reliably assume he's getting 2bp. Choice!

thebillfella · **Posted:** 05 Feb 2012, 01:51

Regardless of what's going on at arsenal I hope he isn't overlooked for the euros in the same way Johnson was overlooked in favour of Wright-Philips

AlexSong · **Joined:** Mon Dec 14 2009 **Posts:** 994

Best young player I have seen break through since Rooney.

Stemania · **Posted:** 05 Feb 2012, 20:34

Presumably he'll lose his place in a few weeks when Arsenal's nasty fixtures recede and Gervinho returns.

em9999 · **Posted:** 05 Feb 2012, 20:36

Gervinho wont get back into the team...i will personally start a riot at the Emirates if Wenger even considers dropping Chamberlain..

Bert. · **Joined:** Tue Jul 07 2009 **Posts:** 1295

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archiv ... -with-alex

Quote:

Wenger wary of over-using Oxlade Chamberlain

Arsène Wenger admits he must strike the ‘right balance’ in his use of Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain this season.

The 18-year-old has been in superb form for Arsenal in recent weeks and scored his first Premier League goals on Saturday as his side beat Blackburn 7-1 at the Emirates.

While Wenger is delighted with Oxlade-Chamberlain’s recent displays, he is wary of the potential for burnout if the forward were to be overburdened this term.

“That’s what happened to us last year with Jack Wilshere, it was exactly the same,” he said. “At the start of the season you think, 'I will play him 20 games, maybe 25'. When they deliver a performance [like Saturday’s] they play 45 and then they play for the national team and then they get injured.

“It's very difficult to manage because people understand very quickly what kind of influence the players have. You want to win the game so you play them.”

Oxlade-Chamberlain has attracted a host of plaudits for his eye-catching displays, but Wenger hopes he will not have to deal with the same pressure that Theo Walcott was put under after being selected for the 2006 World Cup.

“I don't say I don't want him to be rewarded with some praise when he has a good game” he said. “It's about trying to find the right balance between having confidence and not being too early and too much under pressure.

“Walcott went to the World Cup without having played in the Premier League at all, so it was a bit early because he was 17 years old. For a while I felt that the pressure on Walcott was after that because nobody had seen him.

“He didn't play at the World Cup and when he came back people said: 'OK, he has been at the World Cup, now he has to deliver something special'. But you've seen now that Theo is developing very well.

“I don't want to compare [the two players]. The only thing I would say is that Chamberlain already had a complete season in League One and he survived quite well. He was a few times injured on his ankle. He's 18 years old, Theo came here at 16 and a half or 17, so he is a bit older as well.”

GoodfellaLFC · **Joined:** Mon Jul 13 2009 **Posts:** 720

That's fair enough, you don't want to burn out a young player.

hancockjr · **Posted:** 06 Feb 2012, 21:18

Wenger wrote:

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-strives-for-right-balance-with-alex

Arsène Wenger admits he must strike the ‘right balance’ in his use of Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain this season.

The 18-year-old has been in superb form for Arsenal in recent weeks and scored his first Premier League goals on Saturday as his side beat Blackburn 7-1 at the Emirates.

While Wenger is delighted with Oxlade-Chamberlain’s recent displays, he is wary of the potential for burnout if the forward were to be overburdened this term.

“That’s what happened to us last year with Jack Wilshere, it was exactly the same,” he said. “At the start of the season you think, 'I will play him 20 games, maybe 25'. When they deliver a performance [like Saturday’s] they play 45 and then they play for the national team and then they get injured.

“It's very difficult to manage because people understand very quickly what kind of influence the players have. You want to win the game so you play them.”

Oxlade-Chamberlain has attracted a host of plaudits for his eye-catching displays, but Wenger hopes he will not have to deal with the same pressure that Theo Walcott was put under after being selected for the 2006 World Cup.

“I don't say I don't want him to be rewarded with some praise when he has a good game” he said. “It's about trying to find the right balance between having confidence and not being too early and too much under pressure.

“Walcott went to the World Cup without having played in the Premier League at all, so it was a bit early because he was 17 years old. For a while I felt that the pressure on Walcott was after that because nobody had seen him.

“He didn't play at the World Cup and when he came back people said: 'OK, he has been at the World Cup, now he has to deliver something special'. But you've seen now that Theo is developing very well.

“I don't want to compare [the two players]. The only thing I would say is that Chamberlain already had a complete season in League One and he survived quite well. He was a few times injured on his ankle. He's 18 years old, Theo came here at 16 and a half or 17, so he is a bit older as well.”

Calvin1979 · **Joined:** Thu Aug 19 2010 **Posts:** 1048

It does make me laugh with these youngsters and so called 'burn out'.

Your average sporty eighteen year old will play two games of league football and, depending on the time of year, also a game of league cricket / hockey. Added to that Monday night 5-a-side and two or three training sessions. This is what they do! I realise the games and training sessions aren't played at Premier League pace but most gave 100% effort and push themselves to the limit.

Do eighteen year-old athletes, swimmers or cyclists miss the odd race or championship for fear of burn out? Not that I'm aware of and they certainly train harder than your average Premier League footballer.

With the advances in modern technology and science you'd think that recouperation time from a big game would be a lot less than years ago when they used to play a brutal 90 minutes on a boggy pitch.

Perhaps I'm missing something here?

organdonor47 · **Posted:** 07 Feb 2012, 13:14

Calvin1979 wrote:

It does make me laugh with these youngsters and so called 'burn out'.

Your average sporty eighteen year old will play two games of league football and, depending on the time of year, also a game of league cricket / hockey. Added to that Monday night 5-a-side and two or three training sessions. This is what they do! I realise the games and training sessions aren't played at Premier League pace but most gave 100% effort and push themselves to the limit.

Do eighteen year-old athletes, swimmers or cyclists miss the odd race or championship for fear of burn out? Not that I'm aware of and they certainly train harder than your average Premier League footballer.

With the advances in modern technology and science you'd think that recouperation time from a big game would be a lot less than years ago when they used to play a brutal 90 minutes on a boggy pitch.

Perhaps I'm missing something here?

agree completely. what confuses me most is that it was in the premier league era™ that much better conditioning and dieting regimes were introduced, yet we see more rest and rotation and talk of burnout now than we ever did previously.

i understand that the game is quicker nowadays, but with physical contact at a much lower level than it was, (mostly) perfect playing surfaces, and players generally never having been fitter, it's all a bit of a mystery to me too. A O-C has started 3 games recently and already he needs to be "protected".

Super Hans · **Joined:** Fri Jul 10 2009 **Posts:** 2597

Wenger said the same thing about Wilshere but knew he couldn't do without him so played him for 50 odd games, Chamberlin is too important to the side now, can't see him resting him while he's hot, maybe in the Cup once Gervinho is back but he will start a lot of games now.

He's giving the team a new dimension that has been missing this season as he makes things happen, can't see Wenger derailing him.

Giggs11 · **Posted:** 08 Feb 2012, 02:42

I was under the impression that it's as much to do with the mental side of the game than the physical. Sir Alex didn't give Giggs, Scholes and co. too many games to begin with, and look how they turned out.

Difficult to imagine that Chamberlain is better than Giggs was at that age, and he benefited enormously from being kept out of the spotlight as much as possible ... but then, United had players that could replace him with no impact on results.

THE BOY WAYNE · **Joined:** Wed Jan 05 2011 **Posts:** 41

Stemania wrote:

Presumably he'll lose his place in a few weeks when Arsenal's nasty fixtures recede and Gervinho returns.

Did you intentionally mention Gervinho and the word recede in the same sentence :lol:

mikeg13 · **Joined:** Thu Oct 13 2005 **Posts:** 9143

organdonor47 wrote:

i understand that the game is quicker nowadays, but with physical contact at a much lower level than it was, (mostly) perfect playing surfaces, and players generally never having been fitter, it's all a bit of a mystery to me too. A O-C has started 3 games recently and already he needs to be "protected".

While the pitches do allow a higher standard of play they do add considerably to likely injury in games, so much harder with little give in them, that added to very different boots, that offer little protection to areas that are most vulnerable to long term problems.
Players themselves very different to when I first started going, so much physically stronger than in past, agree less contact in game, but that contact that happens far more likely to do injury.
The training regimes are so different as well, far more likely to give problems than those the norm in past. If a top team from past using same training, equipment etc played a team from today they would be finished by half time in my view (not saying teams from past using todays methods would not still be a top team) todays player is fitter, stronger faster, but more likely to get injured and miss games (another factor the magic needle now not used).

From4corners · **Joined:** Mon Aug 24 2009 **Posts:** 3678

With the return of Gervinho, what do you guys think about his chances to start tomorrow. Walcott on the right, Gervinho on the left perhaps? I know Ox deserves a spot over any of these two, especially Walcott but I am in a predicament now whether to bench Ox or McClean for tomorrow. Any thoughts?

Groomyd · **Posted:** 25 Feb 2012, 00:03

Mike: if the sides we saw in the 1970s play against the sides today they would look like the retired footballers in the masters football and so on do now. They were not athletes. They'd be left gasping.

As you say we don't make sure our future footballers can't walk in their 40s anymore by stopping the injections.

AlexSong · **Joined:** Mon Dec 14 2009 **Posts:** 994

With Theo out for the season, anyone looking at the Ox for GW37 - Norwich @ (h)

Has dropped to a very juicy 4.9M!

Bert. · **Joined:** Tue Jul 07 2009 **Posts:** 1295

From4corners wrote:

With the return of Gervinho, what do you guys think. Any thoughts?

His Fivehead is too big.

Super Hans · **Joined:** Fri Jul 10 2009 **Posts:** 2597

AlexSong wrote:

With Theo out for the season, anyone looking at the Ox for GW37 - Norwich @ (h)

Has dropped to a very juicy 4.9M!

I think im going for it this week, if it was away then Wenger usually tries to be more cautious but I think he will start at home.

He could be explosive this week.

Groomyd · **Posted:** 01 May 2012, 11:44

I give up on this one

I was pretty sure he'd get a run but suddenly Benayoun has come into the equation having been largely used as a bit part back up man

Who knows what he'll do against Norwich

So is Oxlade-Chamberlain going to get a run now?

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