Now that our Main League has been closed to new entries it is time to give some thought as to how we will split the League into smaller Leagues come the deadline.

Last year it turned into a bit of a last minute nightmare trying to organise our main Mini League into individual Leagues of 5/6 players. The closing date for entering our 5/6 man Mini Leagues is the 29th May, and our immediate target is winning the Spring League which concludes with the US Open on 16th of June. To give us enough time to organise things I suggest that we should create our individual Mini Leagues following the Mallorca Open and the Valero Texas Open which finish on the weekend of 15/16 May.

Well done Pa, you obviously put a lot of work and thought into all the permutations.

My only concern is that although you have worked within the rules, the Scotman newspaper or whoever makes up the rules may be concerned when they continue to see the same team names appear in all the top performing mini leagues.

They may come back and hit us with this part of their terms & conditions:

6.2 Any users that the company feels are not conducting themselves within the game with ‘Good Sporting Conduct’ will be removed from the game. Company's decision is final and the Company will not enter into any discussion about teams that are disqualified.


I don't know what the alternatives could be other than creating a 'Premier League' of the top 5 at the cut-off with a 'Championship League' for those in 6th -10th.

Perhaps we could email them to confirm your perms would not be disqualified? IMO the rules are open to interpretation and it would be a shame if all your good work was for nothing.

But if you go to the next rule it says:

6.3 Duplicate mini-leagues entered into the League of Leagues will be removed without question. Duplicate mini-leagues constitute a mini-league with the exact same teams entered and as such will NOT be eligible to win prizes.

Obviously we will not be calling our Teams Fiso 1, 2, 3 etc to draw undue attention to ourselves, but we are within the rules as far as I can see. I will seek clarification from them however.

You highlighted the part which I felt may be open to interpretation:

Leagues 1-2-3
1,2,3,4,5,
1,2,3,4,6,
1,2,3,4,7

It might be construed that these are the exact same teams with a further team added just to make them appear different.

I am playing devils advocate here as I'm all in favour of your perms!
I just don't want us to fall foul of the people who make the decisions although as you say we will have done nothing wrong.

It will be interesting to see what response you get from your enquiry. Hopefully you will get the all clear.

At least we have a couple of months to sort it out Alan. I may not be in their good books just now as I have just sent them another stinging Email.

From: John Morrison
Date: 03/11/10 16:16:56
To: SilentManager
Subject: Re: [#S56938] - SilentManager Priority Query

Already your competition is turning into a disaster and we have not even started yet. I sent you a message this morning advising that nobody could log on to the game as a weekly activation code was being asked for, but this activation code does not yet exist. I have yet to receive a response from you.

With the start of the Competition only a few hours away a lot of people will be extremely disappointed that they can not make adjustments to their teams. I have sent an Email to Kim Steggles (Silent Manager) about the lack of response and I will be contacting Ben Wallace of the Scotsman to complain about this mess.

John Morrison

My rant must have done the trick, got a reply within the hour.

Query Ref - 57107
Date Updated - 11/03/2010 17:05:05

Update Information :

Hi John,

Thanks for the email.
You will be able to look into your team within a few hours.
We are sorry for the inconveniece.

Regards,

Support

That did the trick!

Back in without an activation code.

Am I winning yet?

I take it you're new to this game blahblah.

That'll be a no then?

And a yes.

A bit off thread but.....

I just logged in and noticed I already have 2 transfers.

I have used these to bring in players who are entered for the next 2 european events in the hope that I'll get 2 more on Monday.

Has anyone else noticed this?

Typical Silent Manager

Yet?

Or are there no mid tournament scores?

You can keep track of your players scores here blahblah.

http://www.thegolfchannel.com/wgc/2010- ... res/#11472

Updates at the end, then?

So nearly clicked on Allenby

Took me about one minute to pick a team.

The first Mini League Table of the Season shows the usual Bandits at the top, but there is a long, long way to go.

The Comfort Zone
The Practice Range
The Deep Rough

42 The Friendly Golfer Adrian Nelson 2041
117 FISO Forum Christopher King 1830
129 Willett Be My Year? nigel dodds 1804
216 My Ames Are Simple Simon Holman 1695
212 Lighty64 Alan Harris 1695
651 Joshs Giant Hitters Colin Heggie 1373
704 marks world domination mark pretty 1353
705 Man Uniteds #1 Fan Colin Robertson 1353
715 In da hole, Cheedar Gordon Jones 1353
795 redges rebels robert slade 1332
1013 Eagleeyed Bernie Hartley 1247
1102 Equipe Chats Noir Graham Marsden 1218
1399 Janes Rabbits Jane Higgins 1130
1420 backwoods Geo Jeff 1125
1447 Gutter Putter Kevin Muir 1112
1481 Pantsville G&CC Roger Hunt 1103
1552 Midnight Trahan Alan Wilson 1072
1728 Big Birdies Rob Powell 1022
1850 Horton Mumblemouse James Lewis 995
1868 Kitkat or Sushi Liam Buckley 993
1872 kings aces neil king 993
1938 Pa on the Tee John Morrison 984
2155 bufs rebels elizabeth slade 927
2195 Hellsbells Helen Mulhall 925
2571 Line In The Sand Michael Robinson 858
2886 Captain Monty! Dylan Knight 770
3288 Good walk spoiled Ashley Bloodworth 673
3283 Toffeelover Shaun Cooper 673
3337 Machrihanish 1st Søren Hundebøll 662
3497 VW Golf Geoff Pryor 633
3619 Exonians FICHARDT for win Stuart Gill 596
3660 Padmole Patrick Mulhall 576
3761 Blakeys Bogey David Blake 556
3874 Three Over Par Richard Morrison 536
4449 AlbertRossEaglesNBirdies Steven Laurie 410
4575 Hookers & Shankers Andy Stewart 355
4607 Liggos Aces steven liggins 349

Probable stupid question alert, there's bound to be something in the rules I have not read...!!!!

How come every player who finished outside the top 25 was given 27 points??? The points guide in the rules suggests they should have only received the 5 points for making the cut times 1.5.

Could explain how I am 8th.

It's Silent Manager .. Innit

must be errors on it as the ledge is in the The Practice Range and toffeelover aint near the top, even more shocked he is in The Deep Rough

Looks fine to me


Aaah, I see your point

The Friendly Golfer continues his run of birdies and dominates at the top of the Mini League with Admin in second place (memories of the Fiso Annual). TFG is also up to 13th on the Overall Leaderboard.

The Team at the Top of the Mini League Leaderboard has an average of 2265 points with 5 members. If we took our Top 5 Average it comes to 2853 points and we would be miles ahead already.

The Comfort Zone
The Practice Range
The Deep Rough

13 The Friendly Golfer Adrian Nelson 3038
29 FISO Forum Christopher King 2890
38 My Ames Are Simple Simon Holman 2862
40 Willett Be My Year? nigel dodds 2861
112 Man Uniteds #1 Fan Colin Robertson 2615
132 Midnight Trahan Alan Wilson 2566
234 Horton Mumblemouse James Lewis 2397
300 Line In The Sand Michael Robinson 2329
350 Big Birdies Rob Powell 2261
385 marks world domination mark pretty 2218
393 Joshs Giant Hitters Colin Heggie 2210
394 In da hole, Cheedar Gordon Jones 2210
481 Pa on the Tee John Morrison 2131
489 redges rebels robert slade 2127
527 Gutter Putter Kevin Muir 2103
650 Kitkat or Sushi Liam Buckley 2013
660 Equipe Chats Noir Graham Marsden 2008
662 kings aces neil king 2005
684 VW Golf Geoff Pryor 1987
762 Padmole Patrick Mulhall 1935
774 bufs rebels elizabeth slade 1926
776 backwoods Geo Jeff 1924
852 Lighty64 Alan Harris 1892
917 Pantsville G&CC Roger Hunt 1862
926 Good walk spoiled Ashley Bloodworth 1854
948 Janes Rabbits Jane Higgins 1840
1127 Captain Monty! Dylan Knight 1744
1321 Hellsbells Helen Mulhall 1660
1343 Lister Neill Wilcox 1645
1467 Eagleeyed Bernie Hartley 1585
1652 AlbertRossEaglesNBirdies Steven Laurie 1514
1691 Velcro sticks a round Matt Chambers 1502
1716 Three Over Par Richard Morrison 1493
1723 Blakeys Bogey David Blake 1490
1896 Toffeelover Shaun Cooper 1419
2048 Machrihanish 1st Søren Hundebøll 1358
2725 Exonians FICHARDT for win Stuart Gill 1150
3108 Liggos Aces steven liggins 1045
4564 Hookers & Shankers Andy Stewart 522

I got a reply from Silent Manager regarding the way I was thinking about setting up our Mini Leagues and it looks as if we we will have to change our strategy. I shall change the 1st Post accordingly.

Query Ref - 59906
Date Updated - 23/03/2010 16:35:20

Update Information :

Hi John,

Although these leagues are not exact duplicates they still consist of a majority of the same users. This may be perceived by other users as unfair and under our terms we deem this as un-sporting conduct within the game. Mini-leagues should consist of different users in each ideally, although your mini-league does not breach the term 6.3, if you where to become a winner all leagues would be looked into and user comments (if any passed) to the client for final say.

6.2 Any users that the company feels are not conducting themselves within the game with ‘Good Sporting Conduct’ will be removed from the game. Company's decision is final and the Company will not enter into any discussion about teams that are disqualified.

Regards
Scotsman Fantasy Golf
Support

Just took a quick look at the teams directly above me, most still seem to have Harrington as Captain - they'll probably be making changes tonight/tomorrow. Of those that look to have made their weekly changes, Steve Stricker seems to be the Skipper of choice and I think given my good start it would be the sensible thing to follow this trend.

For those looking for a low risk gamble on their Captain, Phil Mickelson does not seem to have garnered much support. For those looking at a slightly riskier strategy, Villegas or Molinari both appeal. Whilst for those willing to risk it all - yes Padmole, I'm looking at you, Soren Kjeldsen in group 7 could catapult you up the leaderboard with a strong week.


Pa, given the response you have had re: mini-leagues, I will set up a 'Friendly Golfer' mini league, where any members of http://www.thefriendlygolfer.com will be welcome to join. That will be the only mini-league my team goes in as I agree with the sentiments from the Scotsman re: unsporting behaviour to be in multiple similar mini-leagues. I think last year things got a bit silly, so whilst I appreciate the effort you've put in - I'm out


TFG League details here
http://www.thefriendlygolfer.com/viewto ... ?f=6&t=352

The Ruling makes it pretty straight forward now AKNel. The Top 5 in our Main Mini League could create a Secondary Mini League following the Mallorca Open and the Valero Texas Open which finishes on the weekend of 15/16 May. Those positioned 6-10, 11-15, 16-20, 21-25, 26-30, 31-35, 36-40 could all do the same. We have no chance of winning with a 40 man Mini League and you really must break it down into Leagues of 5.

I was afraid this might have been the response.

On the plus side, if we decide the top 5 (or 6) come the cut-off date enter a 'Super League' it will give us all something to aim for.
The 5 or 6 below can form another league and it should be nice and competitive to see which mini league does best.

Thanks for doing the ground work, Pa.

Latest Mini League update shows that AKNel has started his spring choke and has lost his place at the top. Admin is still hanging on to 2nd spot.

Putting for Birdie
Putting to save Par
In the semi rough
Lost in the bunker
Left their clubs at home

5 My Ames Are Simple Simon Holman 4384
39 FISO Forum Christopher King 3607
89 The Friendly Golfer Adrian Nelson 3605
117 VW Golf Geoff Pryor 3512
65 Willett Be My Year? nigel dodds 3468
85 Pa on the Tee John Morrison 3366
93 Man Uniteds #1 Fan Colin Robertson 3342
218 marks world domination mark pretty 3295
151 Janes Rabbits Jane Higgins 3192
178 Gunga galunga Haydn Morris 3113
219 Midnight Trahan Alan Wilson 3038
225 Equipe Chats Noir Graham Marsden 3027
239 Padmole Patrick Mulhall 2987
270 redges rebels robert slade 2936
285 Eagleeyed Bernie Hartley 2905
333 Good walk spoiled Ashley Bloodworth 2831
563 Gutter Putter Kevin Muir 2809
353 Line In The Sand Michael Robinson 2793
403 Kitkat or Sushi Liam Buckley 2735
416 Big Birdies Rob Powell 2720
417 kings aces neil king 2719
420 Horton Mumblemouse James Lewis 2714
448 Blakeys Bogey David Blake 2677
476 backwoods Geo Jeff 2646
877 Bald Eagles Bernard Donohue 2557
597 Joshs Giant Hitters Colin Heggie 2527
656 Captain Monty! Dylan Knight 2469
669 Pantsville G&CC Roger Hunt 2459
795 Machrihanish 1st Søren Hundebøll 2362
874 Lighty64 Alan Harris 2303
893 Toffeelover Shaun Cooper 2286
953 In da hole, Cheedar Gordon Jones 2229
958 bufs rebels elizabeth slade 2227
957 Velcro sticks a round Matt Chambers 2227
1098 Lister Neill Wilcox 2117
1134 Liggos Aces steven liggins 2092
1137 AlbertRossEaglesNBirdies Steven Laurie 2091
1161 Three Over Par Richard Morrison 2075
1356 Hellsbells Helen Mulhall 1956
2020 Exonians FICHARDT for win Stuart Gill 1619
4734 Hookers & Shankers Andy Stewart 539

Welcome back Pa.

Heard your ZX Specrum had died on you.

Did you need a new 'puter or did you get your old one fixed?

Not as bad as it looks, I'm actually 45 places higher after the Soren Kjeldsen debacle - Should be 40th overall


Probably dropping 40 or 50 places this week unless Mickelson gets his finger out or Harrington wins

I'm waiting on my new Computer getting delivered. In the meantime I'm trying to use an old Dell Optiplex GX1 (doing my brains in) it's about as quick as Toffeelover lining up a 3' putt ... yaaaaaawwwnnn