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PostPosted: 30 Dec 2011, 16:06 
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I'm not playing the game this season but from the stats i'm able to see, it appears that in Norwich's 5-1 loss to Man City that the assist for the Norwich goal has been given to the wrong player. Marc Tierney (23) has been awarded the assist (not sure about points) and it should have been David Fox (15).

TFF has it correct but YTM also has it wrong. I've reported it to YTM but feel it should be brought to someone's attention on FPL. I'm not sure where they get their data from. This is the YouTube video showing that an error has been made.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfUxr0kA ... re=related


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PostPosted: 30 Dec 2011, 17:46 
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A total of 0.8% of managers have Fox and 2% of managers have Tierney so there's not that many people that will be bothered but thanks for pointing it out :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Scoring Error
PostPosted: 30 Dec 2011, 18:07 
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jazzyb69 wrote:
A total of 0.8% of managers have Fox and 2% of managers have Tierney so there's not that many people that will be bothered but thanks for pointing it out :mrgreen:

That isn't really the point though, is it? I don't know of the assist in question, but you can't always rely on what different games see as assists because there is a variance of how they give them.


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 Post subject: Re: Scoring Error
PostPosted: 30 Dec 2011, 18:15 
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Jonathan wrote:
jazzyb69 wrote:
A total of 0.8% of managers have Fox and 2% of managers have Tierney so there's not that many people that will be bothered but thanks for pointing it out :mrgreen:

That isn't really the point though, is it? I don't know of the assist in question, but you can't always rely on what different games see as assists because there is a variance of how they give them.


If it had been Rooney or Nani, hundreds of people would have brought the issue up. 2.8% of teams is still what 56000 (if there's 2 million entries) and that's a lot of wrong scores. It also makes you wonder if this one is wrong, how many others are wrong.

There is no question how this assist can be awarded as Tierney hasn't even touched the ball after a Man City player has.


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PostPosted: 30 Dec 2011, 18:23 
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chrismar wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
jazzyb69 wrote:
A total of 0.8% of managers have Fox and 2% of managers have Tierney so there's not that many people that will be bothered but thanks for pointing it out :mrgreen:

That isn't really the point though, is it? I don't know of the assist in question, but you can't always rely on what different games see as assists because there is a variance of how they give them.


If it had been Rooney or Nani, hundreds of people would have brought the issue up. 2.8% of teams is still what 56000 (if there's 2 million entries) and that's a lot of wrong scores. It also makes you wonder if this one is wrong, how many others are wrong.

There is no question how this assist can be awarded as Tierney hasn't even touched the ball after a Man City player has.


Just checked the BBC report of the game as i know FPL use their info and they have it down as a Fox assist. Perhaps it was originally awarded to Tierney by mistake cos he took the corner in the build up.

Pretty poor show by FPL actually as they're supposed to review every goal to make sure all assists and goals are correct.


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PostPosted: 30 Dec 2011, 18:24 
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That isn't really the point though, is it? I don't know of the assist in question, but you can't always rely on what different games see as assists because there is a variance of how they give them.

But when most games give one player and one game gives a completely different player, it's not due to interpretation of what's an assist, it's pure lazy mis-identification. I think Tierney was given that assist on the day by all the live commentaries, other games reviewed it but FPL didn't bother because no-one emailed them. I fear you'll have trouble getting them to amend it though, this far after the occasion!


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PostPosted: 30 Dec 2011, 18:28 
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theplayer wrote:
chrismar wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
jazzyb69 wrote:
A total of 0.8% of managers have Fox and 2% of managers have Tierney so there's not that many people that will be bothered but thanks for pointing it out :mrgreen:

That isn't really the point though, is it? I don't know of the assist in question, but you can't always rely on what different games see as assists because there is a variance of how they give them.


If it had been Rooney or Nani, hundreds of people would have brought the issue up. 2.8% of teams is still what 56000 (if there's 2 million entries) and that's a lot of wrong scores. It also makes you wonder if this one is wrong, how many others are wrong.

There is no question how this assist can be awarded as Tierney hasn't even touched the ball after a Man City player has.


Just checked the BBC report of the game as i know FPL use their info and they have it down as a Fox assist. Perhaps it was originally awarded to Tierney by mistake cos he took the corner in the build up.

Pretty poor show by FPL actually as they're supposed to review every goal to make sure all assists and goals are correct.


The BBC report says Tierney crossed it but their live text says it was Fox. Difficult info to use when they can't agree their own info!


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chrismar wrote:
theplayer wrote:
chrismar wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
jazzyb69 wrote:
A total of 0.8% of managers have Fox and 2% of managers have Tierney so there's not that many people that will be bothered but thanks for pointing it out :mrgreen:

That isn't really the point though, is it? I don't know of the assist in question, but you can't always rely on what different games see as assists because there is a variance of how they give them.


If it had been Rooney or Nani, hundreds of people would have brought the issue up. 2.8% of teams is still what 56000 (if there's 2 million entries) and that's a lot of wrong scores. It also makes you wonder if this one is wrong, how many others are wrong.

There is no question how this assist can be awarded as Tierney hasn't even touched the ball after a Man City player has.


Just checked the BBC report of the game as i know FPL use their info and they have it down as a Fox assist. Perhaps it was originally awarded to Tierney by mistake cos he took the corner in the build up.

Pretty poor show by FPL actually as they're supposed to review every goal to make sure all assists and goals are correct.


The BBC report says Tierney crossed it but their live text says it was Fox. Difficult info to use when they can't agree their own info!

The BBC.


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 Post subject: Re: Scoring Error
PostPosted: 30 Dec 2011, 18:53 
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reds363 wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
That isn't really the point though, is it? I don't know of the assist in question, but you can't always rely on what different games see as assists because there is a variance of how they give them.

But when most games give one player and one game gives a completely different player, it's not due to interpretation of what's an assist, it's pure lazy mis-identification. I think Tierney was given that assist on the day by all the live commentaries, other games reviewed it but FPL didn't bother because no-one emailed them. I fear you'll have trouble getting them to amend it though, this far after the occasion!


Thing is, they should be reviewing all goals anyway, regardless of whether they receive an email or not. Otherwise they're just relying on data given to them. Sheer laziness really.


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PostPosted: 30 Dec 2011, 19:05 
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Jonathan wrote:
jazzyb69 wrote:
A total of 0.8% of managers have Fox and 2% of managers have Tierney so there's not that many people that will be bothered but thanks for pointing it out :mrgreen:

That isn't really the point though, is it? I don't know of the assist in question, but you can't always rely on what different games see as assists because there is a variance of how they give them.


Agreed. However, what I was getting at is that there are so few people with these players that no-one would have even been bothered to email FPL about the mistake when it mattered and it's probably too late now. Can't see it being changed.

If it had been players that loads of teams have then they would have received quite a few emails on the same day and therefore would amend it if it was a clear cut as this.


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