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 Post subject: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
PostPosted: 10 Nov 2011, 17:10 
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Got R Taylor at 4.0. He will be 5.2 soon, thus 4.6 on a seller's market.

Do I sell him?

Is this the best time and the best price to twist? I will still like to have newcastle cover, but after the next three GWs, Simpson is viable, with a net profit of 0.4m.

(Reason: The next three fixtures could be bad, and right after that (what with the fixture congestion), one could anticipate to be about the time when Newcastle's form will stop being at the levels that it is... (Caveat: I don't see them doing too badly at all, just that the weary legs will concede more goals... thus affecting Taylor's points...) also the fixture congestion will lead to him being rotated with santon.)


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PostPosted: 10 Nov 2011, 17:26 
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I think it depends on your other defenders, and whether they can cover for Taylor for the next 3. Personally I like to waste as few transfers on defenders as possible (Esp with the lack of CSs available), so have picked a few on GW4 with my first WC that rotated 'well' right up til second WC.
However if you think he will not play as many games in the near future because of fixture congestion, it could be a good time to sell, and especially if you have a spare transfer going. (also need another one though, to bring in Simpson if that is your plan). Are the two transfers required worth it?? IMO not for 0.4mn. I should imagine he may also continue to rise in value (or not fall) for a bit as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
PostPosted: 10 Nov 2011, 18:02 
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Its a tough question and one thats hard to really say without knowing the rest of your team. However I assume you are planning on sitting him on the bench for the next three fixtures anyway. If you need covereage then look at Stokes run of fixtures. Wilkinsons and Upson are cheap and could get a couple of clean sheets out of those three games.


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I was messing around with my team the other day and was weighing this trade up too. I know it's wrong to sell just for a profit but I can't help but think that there's no way the team will continue its run - they've had an unbelievable set of fixtures.

I also hate the idea of losing the 0.6 despite making a healthy profit...


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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I've not had raylor all season as every week until maybe the last two I've thought "no point getting him in, he'll soon be dropped for santon". But, he's kept his place played well, and there seems no reason that he won't do both all season.

If I'd had him from the start there's no way I'd sell now. A (bought at) 4m defender in a good defence who also takes attacking free kicks. Godsend in fantasy football terms that. The problem is, at 5.2m and over he doesn't seem quite as attractive to buy back.

Personally I have simpson, who I am considering selling. Though at 4.2m ish he still represents good value to repurchase later, so it's no great loss.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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I bought Taylor at 4.4, and have no intention of selling. As others have said - attacking fullback who takes great freekicks - for that price, what's not to like?


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
PostPosted: 10 Nov 2011, 23:19 
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Stemania wrote:
I've not had raylor all season as every week until maybe the last two I've thought "no point getting him in, he'll soon be dropped for santon". But, he's kept his place played well, and there seems no reason that he won't do both all season.

If I'd had him from the start there's no way I'd sell now. A (bought at) 4m defender in a good defence who also takes attacking free kicks. Godsend in fantasy football terms that. The problem is, at 5.2m and over he doesn't seem quite as attractive to buy back.

Personally I have simpson, who I am considering selling. Though at 4.2m ish he still represents good value to repurchase later, so it's no great loss.
all of this (apart from the simpson bit) (although the good value bit is correct) (just the bit about owning him)


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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Its a tough question and one thats hard to really say without knowing the rest of your team.

baganboy is a well dressed Fisoer,complete with a polished FPL button,so all you need do is click on it.

You could have one too,in a matter of a few seconds - just copy your FPL id from the browser window on your history page and paste it into the box in your Fiso Profile,(top left of this page)at the bottom where shown.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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Yes :!:


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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Can't you hide him on your bench for the next 3 weeks? There aren't too many obvious replacements at a similar price that are certain to notch decent points, and I can think of worse D4's to have come in if I cop a nonappearance from one of my starting XI. He may well be a season hold for me.

Despite fixtures, if you're worried about value I'm not sure there's any rush. He is still getting NTIs, and needs to drop at least 0.3 (depending on what price you bought him) to drop 0.2 in selling price, and that's pretty unlikely to happen over the next 3 gameweeks.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
PostPosted: 11 Nov 2011, 01:59 
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It's true the next 3 fixtures are tough but then Newcastle have NOR A, SWA H and WBA H.

So taking a 6 week view it balances out somewhat for me.

I'm keeping him whilst he stays in the team.

Which other defenders who take free kicks and score/assist from open play, who also play in a team keeping plenty of clean sheets are available?


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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Fuzzy, Bestpay, proper, proper responses. Appreciate your feedbacks guys.... Taylor's served me well... just that Simpson + .4 sounds tasty. Shall see.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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When Santon has come on, hasn't it been for Simpson? I would think Santon will eventually get a first team pick, and if I was looking to transfer out Taylor, it wouldn't be for Simpson until I knew he would be keeping his place.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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Bestpay wrote:
It's true the next 3 fixtures are tough but then Newcastle have NOR A, SWA H and WBA H.

So taking a 6 week view it balances out somewhat for me.
Yeah, that's where I am at the moment. I have more pressing concerns than a consistent defender so I'll stick.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
PostPosted: 11 Nov 2011, 12:38 
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DrBunker wrote:
Bestpay wrote:
It's true the next 3 fixtures are tough but then Newcastle have NOR A, SWA H and WBA H.

So taking a 6 week view it balances out somewhat for me.
Yeah, that's where I am at the moment. I have more pressing concerns than a consistent defender so I'll stick.


Glad you agree. I also forgot to mention for good measure that Raylor is probably going to rise 0.2 this turn as well! He is 102% on "crack the code" atm, so will probably rise tomorrow morning. I also think as he is 8 points clear of all the other defenders right now (57 to 49) that he will rise another 0.1 next week, perhaps Thursday/Friday sort of time.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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I'll sell him if he's dropped, gets injured or the wheels come horribly off Newcastle's wagon. Other than that, he's staying for the duration.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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Surely NOW's the time. I was hoping that he will move up to 5.4 and give me the 0.7, but I don't think that's happening. Still, 0.6 is a lot of money!

So, does anybody still plan to stick on with Raylor?


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
PostPosted: 12 Dec 2011, 17:04 
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baganboy wrote:
Surely NOW's the time. I was hoping that he will move up to 5.4 and give me the 0.7, but I don't think that's happening. Still, 0.6 is a lot of money!

So, does anybody still plan to stick on with Raylor?


Yes i'm keeping. I see no reason why i shouldn't keep him for at least the next 2 games - Swansea (H) and West Brom (H). Makes no sense to sell.

I benched him against Norwich which proved to be the right choice but Coloccini looks like he'll be back for Swansea which should tighten up the defence. Lets not forget they had City, United and Chelsea all in a row so if you kept him through that why sell now?


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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If not injured, he is a season keeper for me. Bought in at start, is around 6:1 to score any match + takes freekicks and feeding assists. newcastle Have 2 easy homegames, not favourtite to get a clean sheat, but newcastle will rely on scoring more goals than they are letting in. I hope Raylor will benefit from exactly that.

Also, Colochini will be back in not to long, and im pritty sure Newcastle have showed enuff quality to finish top 6.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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Newc won't get top 6.

Prob finish 7th though


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Carlb5253 wrote:
Newc won't get top 6.

Prob finish 7th though


Liverpool supporter? :P

I rate it as a cointoss between Liverpool and Newcastle. If Liverpool stabilize as a team they could be favourites to the spot


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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XXaannddeerr wrote:
I rate it as a cointoss between Liverpool and Newcastle. If Liverpool stabilize as a team they could be favourites to the spot

:lol: :lol: :lol:

On the subject of Taylor, I shall be looking to upgrade him after the two upcoming home games. There are now better options at 4.6 imo.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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Nah I support Man U.

Maybe if you kept both centre halves fit all season and didn't lose Ba to the African Nations you would have a chance

I just think them 3 players are way too important in a thin squad


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I agree with the above poster/ Raylor's the next head on the chopping block.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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I posted this in the transfer thread but this is probably a better place.

I think this sums up the situation. Pardew:

“Santon’s had to be patient, but he put his marker down on the left-back slot for probably the rest of the year.

“Ryan Taylor will have something to say about that, but he didn’t do such a bad job himself in that midfield role. We have plenty of nice assets to come out of the game.”

(from http://www.jarrowandhebburngazette.com/ ... _1_4117199)

I read that as saying santon now has the left back slot. I think Raylor will fill in at LB, RB, and RW when others are not fit but is no longer in our best eleven. Pardew has jumped at every chance to defend obertan thus far and I can't see him being dropped when fit at the moment.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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Pleased to have kept him so far. Only 80 minutes played though.


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Pleased to have kept him so far. Only 80 minutes played though.


So has BAE, reason to ditch him also? I missed the boat on him and I'm still mad at myself going Simpson over him at the start of the season. Defender playing 80min (but regularly) is an ideal FPL defender - doesn't get cought with points deduction if his team concedes an odd one in 90th min.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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I think you misunderstood my comment. I don't intend to get rid (yet) but didn't want to completely discount the earlier comment about him not being a first teamer.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Taylor - now's the time to pull the plug?
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DrBunker wrote:
I think you misunderstood my comment. I don't intend to get rid (yet) but didn't want to completely discount the earlier comment about him not being a first teamer.


Sorry, didn't realize you were refeering to previous post.


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