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 Post subject: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 23 Dec 2011, 12:55 
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What's your thoughts on RVP possibly starting on the bench vs either Wolves or QPR?

Someone made a valid point to me earlier reminding me that with RVP going for the record of Premier League goals in a calendar year, it may play on Arsene's mind and make him more reluctant to rest him?

Or if he gets the record vs Wolves, will he take to the bench for the QPR game, knowing Fulham(a) is just 2 days later?

Does he need 1 more to equal Shearer's record and 2 to break it?


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 23 Dec 2011, 13:01 
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He needs three more to break it. So yes, if he scores a hattrick this w-end surely he'll be rested. But don't think for one second Wenger will rest him against Wolves, Robin won't be pleased.

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNew ... 47683.html

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Wenger claimed he is not ready to give him a rest as he prepares for two home games in succession against Wolverhampton Wanderers and QPR.

'Robin keeps going and of course you always have that question about whether to rest him. He played against Manchester City but at the moment he feels alright so I just take a gamble. He is only three goals away from beating the record so now I will start to rest him! We've now got a breather until we prepare for the Wolves game on Boxing Day


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 23 Dec 2011, 13:07 
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i agree.

Woudl be gutting for the player to be denied a chance at a league record just because the manager fancies rotating him out.

I'd put money on him playing on the 27th, then if he makes the record leaving him out of the next game. If he doesn't hit the record, i can see him playing both. Big thing for him this no doubt, so would be very disappointed to be denied the chance.


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 23 Dec 2011, 13:13 
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Now I've seen that link and another one, I'm more confident he'll at least start the Wolves game and should he miss out on scoring 3 goals will get the QPR game too.

Phew! :D


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PostPosted: 23 Dec 2011, 13:36 
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Wenger did say in his press conference that "Van Persie record not as vital as points" but would expect him to start against Wolves, hopefully get 4 goals so can be rested for the QPR game so will know to change captain for that game :)


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PostPosted: 23 Dec 2011, 14:08 
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I agree with above. Also the game being moved to the 27th gives him an extra day to rest.


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 23 Dec 2011, 14:15 
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topcat24 wrote:
Wenger did say in his press conference that "Van Persie record not as vital as points" but would expect him to start against Wolves, hopefully get 4 goals so can be rested for the QPR game so will know to change captain for that game :)


I think we all expect managers to say that really.

But I'm now confident that if RVP doesn't get 3 goals vs Wolves, he'll also start against QPR.

There's a 12 days gap between Fulham and Swansea, so Arsene may take that into consideration too, knowing he'll have almost 2 weeks between those matches.


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 23 Dec 2011, 14:53 
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He can have a rest in the FA Cup at home to Leeds on 9th Jan :D


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 23 Dec 2011, 17:41 
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Wenger shouldn't be giving a toss about records like that. Anyway, let Joey at him against QPR I say!


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 23 Dec 2011, 17:47 
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Would be very surprised if he's on the bench against Wolves. It's 6 days between that and the Villa game just past. The QPR game however, i'm not so sure. 2 days later they play Fulham away so Wenger might want to keep him fresh for that.


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PostPosted: 23 Dec 2011, 19:55 
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theplayer wrote:
Would be very surprised if he's on the bench against Wolves. It's 6 days between that and the Villa game just past. The QPR game however, i'm not so sure. 2 days later they play Fulham away so Wenger might want to keep him fresh for that.


This. I certainly don't expect him to complete 90 mins too often over the festive period.


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 23 Dec 2011, 20:19 
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What's the most consecutive appearances RVP has made for Arsenal? He must be getting close to it now, if he hasn't beat it already.


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 23 Dec 2011, 20:30 
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theplayer wrote:
Would be very surprised if he's on the bench against Wolves. It's 6 days between that and the Villa game just past. The QPR game however, i'm not so sure. 2 days later they play Fulham away so Wenger might want to keep him fresh for that.



Can't even see him being rested for that tbh, less minutes maybe but he won't play in the FA Cup, all going well the home games will be won by the 60 min mark in which he can come off.

Playing games is not as much of an issue as is made out because they will hardly train in-between, the league position and fight for 4th takes care of itself now after the City game, every game is must win.


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PostPosted: 23 Dec 2011, 20:34 
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RidleyMTB wrote:
He can have a rest in the FA Cup at home to Leeds on 9th Jan :D

I hope so :)


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 23 Dec 2011, 20:39 
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Arsenal are not like City, they could easily rest Aguero and have world class coming in, Wenger has Chamakh....


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
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Super Hans wrote:
Arsenal are not like City, they could easily rest Aguero and have world class coming in, Wenger has Chamakh....

well put :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 23 Dec 2011, 22:15 
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As a Gooner, if/when RVP does sit one out, I'd like to see Theo at CF and AOC come in on the right. There's been plenty of chat about it, would be nice to see if it works. Probably wouldn't get too many headed goals from open play, but then when do we? Arsene is on the record as saying "That's not my bag, baby". I might have made the last bit up.


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 24 Dec 2011, 02:24 
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Oh god, that glorious pace. Put Gervinho down the left and we'll create buckets of chances, even if there'll be no-one there to finish them off :lol:

Jonathan I think this really does mean something to Arsene--RvP has been one of his finest players throughout his Arsenal tenure and for van Persie to make his mark on the premier league in one of the only ways he can is vital.

IMO not only will van Persie play but he'll have a fire inside him that I think Wolves hapless defenders will not be able to match.


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 24 Dec 2011, 02:54 
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he will be rested when he is injured and then i will sell him


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 24 Dec 2011, 14:35 
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Jonathan wrote:
Wenger shouldn't be giving a toss about records like that. Anyway, let Joey at him against QPR I say!


He should - because it comes down to player morale and as a manager that's one of the most important things to look after.


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 24 Dec 2011, 16:05 
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Do we think Walcott could be rested at any point?


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 24 Dec 2011, 16:54 
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Robin Write wrote:
Do we think Walcott could be rested at any point?


Oxlade Chamberlain is chomping at the bit, Theo does need a rest too. Could happen.


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 24 Dec 2011, 18:49 
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He will probably be brought off early in the 2 games around 60th-70th minute.

He won't be on the bench though, Arsenal can't afford to bench him at the moment.


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 24 Dec 2011, 20:52 
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+1 for the Walcott centre forward role, i have said it for a while as a Man U fan..

His pace is frightening, he isnt the best dribbler which is why i think he isnt a winger.


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PostPosted: 24 Dec 2011, 21:14 
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Carlb5253 wrote:
+1 for the Walcott centre forward role, i have said it for a while as a Man U fan..

His pace is frightening, he isnt the best dribbler which is why i think he isnt a winger.


Yeah I've said that too for a while.

When Arsene bought Henry he converted him from a winger (for Juventus) to a striker. I think he'll attempt to do the same.


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 26 Dec 2011, 11:09 
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http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2 ... rested-for


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 27 Dec 2011, 14:16 
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I have read similar reports today, also in Dutch. Wenger shouldn't dare :evil: :| we should know within the hour I guess what Wenger is up to

Edit within the hour: And alrighty, he starts 8-) now let's see if he doesn't break at the 17th minute (as he did in a nightmare I had the other night :mrgreen: )


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 27 Dec 2011, 15:11 
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Aye he starts. Walcott doesnt tho

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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 27 Dec 2011, 15:11 
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Walcott also not on the bench


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 Post subject: Re: RVP - Benched for Wolves or QPR game?
PostPosted: 27 Dec 2011, 18:38 
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So, a draw against Wolves. Is QPR a must win? If so, surely he must start? A bit risk for capt though for me.


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