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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
PostPosted: 16 Jan 2012, 18:13 
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Much as I enjoyed taking the mickey out of Carl, I have to admit that Rooney did only get 1 assist. The Scholes one.

I suffered earlier in the season with the RvP Gervinho debacle and the less said about the stupid, ridiculous, insane, garbage, nonsensical, idiotic, pointless, shambolic, farcical loadofoldbollocks that calls itself a bonus point system the better.

Poor show this season FPL.

And Gaz - you can't quit. I know you're upset because I'm top nag in the Dark Horses (not difficult granted) but you've got to get back on the horse and carry on.


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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
PostPosted: 16 Jan 2012, 18:16 
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I don't think all people argued the decision because of rivals or to get points removed, I for one. I just honestly believed both could be removed. Doesn't alter my life in any way, either way. Probably the easiest points for assists you'll ever get, those who have him count yourselves lucky because that penalty miss could have hurt.


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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
PostPosted: 16 Jan 2012, 18:16 
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there is no way anyone can feel hard done by from them not being removed, no way at all, certainly not to throw their toys out the pram

looks like sour grapes, id argue the 1st one is clearly rooneys and ive yet to see a single thing to discount that, the second is a job for intense scrutiny but only PA would have the resources and means to judge that one and according to them its rooneys also

im all for calling for decisions changed when theres a case to answer, but in this instance for my money its straw clutching to damage rivals points rather than wish for the right thing

FPL is a whole different beast to the mug rivals- they look to give an assist for most goals, we know that- it's what we signed up for, it's in the fpl rules

if you prefer Telegraph rules play that


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PostPosted: 16 Jan 2012, 18:22 
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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
PostPosted: 16 Jan 2012, 18:23 
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PostPosted: 16 Jan 2012, 18:39 
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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
PostPosted: 16 Jan 2012, 18:43 
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:lol:

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lol no offense fellas, we all get too involved in this game

ill shut up now and pop back to console carl at a later date.. haha


I wonder if it is not you that should actually get a date ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
PostPosted: 16 Jan 2012, 19:07 
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As a Rooney owner, I have to admit I was expecting a minimum of 1 of the assists taken off. On this occasion, I've received the luck of the Irish.

Gareth, you're being a tad (well, more then a tad) biased on this and like organdonor47 has said, just accept the points and move on.


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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
PostPosted: 16 Jan 2012, 19:12 
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Agree with that and fair play for saying it: As someone who bets on this every year (due to the high skill factor that is [or was] involved), I want FPL to be CONSISTENT by the rules. It is so easy for them to be consistent. Then if I win or lose the money at the end, I'll know it's been fair so from that point of view I couldn't care less if Roo gets 6 as he would average about 6 from that game anyway but that's not the point at all - many players don't get what they should, which should have happened with Rooney unfortunately. If Blackburn appeal yak's red and are successful, will FPL add the 2 points back on to my dismal score of 24. NO. I accept that even if he could have scored way more points from that fixture. At present it isn't fair which means I won't be betting next year for sure, if I even take part.

From a purely selfish point of view, I could have really done with the assist being taken away from my rivals, as Adebayor and Dempsey had goals 'wrongly' chalked off for me this week but those were difficult refereeing decisions which I've accepted. :roll:


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PostPosted: 16 Jan 2012, 19:41 
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The issue for me is that it may have a significant bearing on my friends / works ML.

I suffered with Varney last year, and I'm still harping on about it 12 months later. Bale, RVP, Carroll amongst others have all had silly dubious ones. These cost people money at the end of the day.

Time to move on next season. We ditched The Sun when it became farcical, so time to ditch FPL


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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
PostPosted: 16 Jan 2012, 20:03 
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This is an absolute joke. The first assist is debateable. From the replays ive seen albeit only from one angle it doesnt appear to me that welbeck touched it. The second goal though is a clear non assist, wheater clearly kicks the ball through to welbeck.

To put this into context lets compare the gervinho/rvp example a few weeks ago. What I would be asking is how come despite it being inconclusive from all angles, somebody in the press association/fpl with apparant x-ray vision sees vp's cross brush off gervinhos boot lace yet these same x-ray eyes fail to see this touch from wheater which is so obvious?

FPL are a total bunch of clowns who have ruined the game with these crap, fraudulant decisions and also the crap design of the new site and the omission of useful features previous games had.


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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
PostPosted: 16 Jan 2012, 20:04 
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Pretty relieved seeing as I captained him. Whats more farcicle (sp?) Is why he didn't get any boni? Was hoping for all 3 tbf

officially he made both goals but got no boni, might send an email off...


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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
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This is an absolute joke. The first assist is debateable. From the replays ive seen albeit only from one angle it doesnt appear to me that welbeck touched it. The second goal though is a clear non assist, wheater clearly kicks the ball through to welbeck.

To put this into context lets compare the gervinho/rvp example a few weeks ago. What I would be asking is how come despite it being inconclusive from all angles, somebody in the press association/fpl with apparant x-ray vision sees vp's cross brush off gervinhos boot lace yet these same x-ray eyes fail to see this touch from wheater which is so obvious?

FPL are a total bunch of clowns who have ruined the game with these crap, fraudulant decisions and also the crap design of the new site and the omission of useful features previous games had.


100% bang on.


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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
PostPosted: 16 Jan 2012, 20:31 
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Clear as anything those two assists 8-)

I'll admit, the more I watch them, the more i'm glad they were given.

Definitely some over-reaction on here though - people quitting and/or never playing again after this season? Come on...


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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
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I thought the Demba Ba assist ruling against Everton for Ryan Taylor's goal was a terrible decision, the one were he challenges Jagielka for a header dosnt appear to get a touch, Jags heads it outside the area and Taylor volly's it in, and this Rooney decision is equally as poor. Even my cock-eyed mother in-law spotted Welbecks touch and Wheaters back pass.


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Clear as anything those two assists 8-)

I'll admit, the more I look at my captain score, the more i'm glad they were given.

Definitely some over-reaction on here though - people quitting and/or never playing again after this season? Come on...


Corrected. 8-)


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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
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:lol: You just beat me to it Robin :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
PostPosted: 16 Jan 2012, 20:45 
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10Hughes wrote:



Definitely some over-reaction on here though - people quitting and/or never playing again after this season? Come on...


100% bang on! S'only a game fellas, that's my motto this season


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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
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Some people are in it for money, so you can understand the annoyance in that respect.

Even those that aren't have to endure the taunting from mini-league rivals every 5 minutes via text messages, emails, facebook messages, etc. It can drive a man to despair :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
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Robin Write wrote:
10Hughes wrote:
Clear as anything those two assists 8-)

I'll admit, the more I look at my captain score, the more i'm glad they were given.

Definitely some over-reaction on here though - people quitting and/or never playing again after this season? Come on...


Corrected. 8-)


Haha very true! Justice that, after a Rooney-affected Christmas that nearly destroyed my season/life... :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
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To add a bit of fuel to the fire: OFL, who are usually by far the best fantasy game at awarding assists consistently and correctly, with detailed analysis of footage and open explanations on any decisions, DID give Rooney BOTH assists.


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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
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Some people are in it for money, so you can understand the annoyance in that respect.


exactly! Im not sure that people understand that despite there being no prize money on offer from FPL, a lot of players have teams in organised money leagues so these disgraceful decisions will cost people money at the end of the season. FPL also need to understand this.


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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
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it would be more an injustice if they werent given

if and im saying if, because there is NOTHING to suggest welbeck gets a touch, certainly not to feel aggrieved, you honestly want rooney who got the ball and crossed the ball to lose the assist for a player frantically trying to get out the way??


the second the defender desperately tried to take the ball off rooney with a last ditch dive in, he made that challenge because rooney was in on goal, he also according to the PA after closer investigation knocked the ball onto rooney

i cant believe the overaction on here, behave. suggesting quitting? come off it

correct call and the just call in the grand scheme of his involvement in both goals, count yourselves lucky you havnt had him for all his blanks of late and get over it


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gooberman wrote:
Joe Kerr wrote:
Some people are in it for money, so you can understand the annoyance in that respect.


exactly! Im not sure that people understand that despite there being no prize money on offer from FPL, a lot of players have teams in money leagues so these disgraceful decisions will cost people money at the end of the season. FPL also need to understand this.


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What money? Thought the top prize was just a couple of prem tickets?

Haven't dared txt my 2 league mates cos I know they wil be in a right grump (in fact they are cos I've seen their posts on this thread :lol: )


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Gareth wrote:
the second the defender desperately tried to take the ball off rooney with a last ditch dive in, he made that challenge because rooney was in on goal, he also according to the PA after closer investigation knocked the ball onto rooney


so what?! :roll: :lol:


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From4corners wrote:
Gareth wrote:
the second the defender desperately tried to take the ball off rooney with a last ditch dive in, he made that challenge because rooney was in on goal, he also according to the PA after closer investigation knocked the ball onto rooney


so what?! :roll: :lol:


the second part is the relevant part

the first part is indicating how involved rooney was in making the chance(or without the challenge perhaps going on himself)

the touch onto rooney simply cements the involvement in terms of a reward fpl points wise under their rules - they studied the footage and saw a touch

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reds363 wrote:
To add a bit of fuel to the fire: OFL, who are usually by far the best fantasy game at awarding assists consistently and correctly, with detailed analysis of footage and open explanations on any decisions, DID give Rooney BOTH assists.

Well well well! So those who think thegrass is greener with other games better think again.....or of course the assists were correctly given. Either way....good info reds


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 Post subject: Re: Rooney's 'assists' vs Bolton
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organdonor47 wrote:
rumsey0808 wrote:
Love the people going on about if you didnt have rooney you wouldnt post in his defense. well if you had rooney you wouldnt post against him. its called common sense. but lets be real your really deluded if u think that the first goal wasnt his assist. the second goal is 50./50 but that prob wont be taken off him either.
:) for what it's worth i absolutely hate him, but i also think he should keep the first assist. and i don't own him.
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cant believe so many see rooney pts as a threat didnt everyone sell him?
i think because of his still-high ownership, it will effect overall rank quite a bit. plus only people who are crap at fpl have rooney, so it will be for the greater good when the assists are removed - the better players will be appeased and thus less likely to give up the game and cry off in protest.

ah well, we'll all find out in a few hours anyway, then instead of in-fighting we can all turn our anger to the one true evil; the authors of the FPL rulebook.


As quoted earlier in this thread, apparently 'only people who are crap at fpl have Rooney'... so I don't know why loads of you are bothered... let us 'crap' people have our own special moment in the sun :lol:


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