Hey guys ..

Am toying with the idea of getting really cheap 4.0 defenders and goalkeepers
and spending the rest on my forward line ..

has this worked for anybody in the past with any notable success ?

can you please comment and give your advice based on your experiences ?

There are many people who claim to use this strategy of cheap defenders and expensive strikers, not many actually do. The pros here in FISO don't do anything extreme and try to balance out all their team's parts.
It's good have an expensive player or two in ever position and an entire line of 4.0m defenders is far too much of a gamble. IMHO

hey thanks ironfist ..

also - i would like to know - if u can helpe me out here - that on a avg - what is the total defensive spend ?
or rather - what shuld be the threshold ?

4.0 * 7 = 28 Is certainly not the way ahead - i understand .
but then , how can i balance it out ..

say ..maybe about 32-35m on defense ( 5 + 2 ) sounds ok ?

I don't think that a calculation based on an initial pre-decided sum is the way to go.
If you think of overhauling your team I'd do the following; make a list of 10 defenedrs at various prices from 4.0 to 7.5m, make a similar list at all thre price ranges for MF and strikers. Then try to have one or two expensive/top scoring players in each position and then fill in the gaps with a range of point scoring potentials. Get good players and don't fret about allocating sums.

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...my current defence is worth 28.2 so i'm not convinced. When I look at defenders I look for a clean sheet, although cleansheets are not that common at this stage of the season.

one of my rivals did very well (a couple of seasons ago) with a defense made up of Everton/Fulham defenders.

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Not sure I could be considered a top flight player, but I have generally gone with a 3-5-2 formation with the theory that midfielders have (a) the most ways to score points (and not lose points, i.e. goals scored against and own goals) and (b) the least volatility. It is not the time of the season for it, but soon there will be situations in which high priced forwards get injured, play for 57 minutes or fail to score a goal or assist. Even in the situations in which high priced forwards get no additional points, midfielders will pick up the point for clean sheets.

So, 2 4.0 defenders, 1 high priced defender from a top 4, 2 mid tier defenders, 5 high priced midfielders, 1 high priced forward and 2 mid/low priced forwards.

@ironfist
thanks again ..i seem to have changed my mind now ..
how abt alex vidic and young ..as a back 3 ..with the other ( 2 + 2 ) being at 4.0 ?

@westcoast - i like ur concept ..but i think i will stick to ironfist for the time being ..

@saint - nt quite sure what u meant buddy ...u think i shuld go for a 28m defense ?

I'm a newbie, so my opinion may not be worth a whole lot. However, I like to think that I learn quickly from my own mistakes and I feel like I made a few of those in selecting my team, especially with my defense.

I went the route of selecting low to mid defenders before I had a clear sense of teams that were going to be conceding a lot of goals. What I ended up with was a defense of Shawcross, Samba, Phil Jones, Mensah, and Danny Simpson. The problem I ran into was with Mensah and Simpson being hurt, I had to start two backs from the same team and Shawcross on a really bad Stoke team. In the long run, I think that Mensah is worth keeping, but having Jones and Samba start together can either pay great dividends (if Blackburn puts up a clean sheet) or sink me.

While I think that the number of clean sheets that we have seen at the beginning of this season is an anomoly, so are goals scored by (or assists by) defenders. I think that the illusion of big points from a defense becomes hard to fight when that rare goal is combined with a clean sheet.

In the end, and because of the structure of the game (being tables rather than head-to-head (I'm coming from fantasy American football)), I think that one must keep a long term perspective and favor defenders that have the best chance to keep a clean sheet or that are on solid defensive teams without much force up front (so that bonus points become possible). Now, how does this all play into your original question, I have become more willing to bump up my spending on defense to the 5.5-6.5 range on three players from teams that I know won't concede often (Arsenal, Chelsea, Man U, and a couple others) and to keep some pocket aces (low cost, high reward guys - for me, someone like Mensah (which some may disagree with)).

Anyway, that's my perspective on the matter, for what it is worth...

I was just quoting something I read about a month or so ago (in support of your theory) & letting you know that I ignored it. 28m I think is too expensive for defence and I hope to bring this down over the season when the teams with a solid defence/clean sheet are fairly obvious.

There are not many 4 pointers that are nailed on starters... Not seven of them anyway...

Yes, this is an important consideration. If you are going for cheap defenders, you'll need to stretch to at least 4.5 for a few of them: there's quite a bit of value there in Givet/Jones, Dann, Faye, Al Muhammadi.

i was thinking about going with 3-4-3

so does it make sense to have 3 top class defenders and two with 4.0 ?

Or should I spread that value across 5..and keep shuffling them as per fixtures ?

You are doing it all wrong mate. Stop calculating funds and player prices.
The right way to go about this, as in any other section of your team, is balance.

I suggested this before and am doing so again; in Defence, MF and Strikers, get one or two expensive, solid players, one or two mid-range ones and the rest are cheapos.

For example, in your defence, get a couple of players from the leading teams. Players you can depend on regardless of fixture like Vidic or Alex or even ACole or Evra. Then get a mid range defender and the choices are great; Hengeland, Cahill, Dawson, Samba, Ridgewell, plus two cheap defenedrs and the choices are endless.
This will give you enough flexibility not only to rotate players, but also to change your formation depending on your needs.

Your main concern is (or should be) points, not value or formations.
Think about who will perform best to get you most points and don't fall into the obvious trap of adding up player prices.

Thanks Ironfist..
Alex Sagna & m.richards ..
that sounds good ? - for the coming fixtures ? short-medium term ?
and i have 2 other cheapos ..

Micah is a little iffy. I'd go for Dawson. Sound otherwise.

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