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 Post subject: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 00:14 
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With the new OFL season just round the corner, I was wondering what the new values of some of the players would be.

So here's a competition for us all to play - just a bit of fun - no prizes, just the honour of coming on top!

Simply guess what value the players below will be for the 2011 season.

Everyone starts with 100 points, you lose a point for every 0.1 you are out by. (for example if you guess a players value at 2.2 and the actual value is 2.9, you lose 7 points. You get 5 bonus points for a correct guess.

All entries to be posted below by midnight 7th March.

Even Mr G can have a go! :mrgreen:

Just cut and paste from the list below. (last years value in brackets)

Tiger (6.5)
Westwood (3.6)
Kaymer (3.2)
Stenson (2.8)
S Garcia (2.6)
Schwartzel (2.3)
Donald (2.2)
Kuchar (1.8)
F. Molinari (1.6)
B. Watson (1.1)
B Hass (1.1)
M Wilson (1.0)
SY Noy (1.0)
T Aiken (1.0)
Cabrera-Bello (0.9)
DA Points (0.8)
Mannasero (0.8)
J. Parry (0.6)
Gallagher (0.5)
J Vegas (rookie)


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 00:21 
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Tiger (6.5) 5.8
Westwood (3.6) 4.5
Kaymer (3.2) 4.5
Stenson (2.8) 1.7
S Garcia (2.6) 1.9
Schwartzel (2.3) 2.8
Donald (2.2) 3.3
Kuchar (1.8) 2.6
F. Molinari (1.6) 2.0
B. Watson (1.1) 1.8
B Hass (1.1) 1.6
M Wilson (1.0) 1.5
SY Noy (1.0) 1.5
T Aiken (1.0) 0.8
Cabrera-Bello (0.9) 0.6
DA Points (0.8) 0.9
Mannasero (0.8) 1.9
J. Parry (0.6) 0.8
Gallagher (0.5) 1.4
J Vegas (rookie) 1.2


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 00:41 
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Tiger (3.8)
Westwood (4.2)
Kaymer (6.0)
Stenson (1.8)
S Garcia (1.5)
Schwartzel (2.3)
Donald (3.6)
Kuchar (3.0)
F. Molinari (2.5)
B. Watson (2.6)
B Hass (1.8)
M Wilson (1.6)
SY Noy (1.5)
T Aiken (1.2)
Cabrera-Bello (0.9)
DA Points (1.2)
Mannasero (1.6)
J. Parry (1.0)
Gallagher (1.3)
J Vegas (1.5)


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 09:10 
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Tiger (6.5) 4.5
Westwood (3.6) 4.8
Kaymer (3.2) 5.0
Stenson (2.8) 2.0
S Garcia (2.6) 2.5
Schwartzel (2.3) 3.3
Donald (2.2) 3.6
Kuchar (1.8) 3.2
F. Molinari (1.6) 2.5
B. Watson (1.1) 2.2
B Hass (1.1) 1.8
M Wilson (1.0) 1.7
SY Noy (1.0) 1.5
T Aiken (1.0) 2.0
Cabrera-Bello (0.9) 1.3
DA Points (0.8) 1.3
Mannasero (0.8) 1.9
J. Parry (0.6) 0.7
Gallagher (0.5) 1.2
J Vegas (rookie) 2.0


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 09:56 
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Tiger (6.5) 4.8
Westwood (3.6) 5.0
Kaymer (3.2) 5.0
Stenson (2.8) 1.8
S Garcia (2.6) 2.6
Schwartzel (2.3) 32.8
Donald (2.2) 3.5
Kuchar (1.8) 2.6
F. Molinari (1.6) 3.0
B. Watson (1.1) 2.5
B Hass (1.1) 2.3
M Wilson (1.0) 1.5
SY Noy (1.0) 1.3
T Aiken (1.0) 1.2
Cabrera-Bello (0.9) 1.2
DA Points (0.8) 1.3
Mannasero (0.8) 1.3
J. Parry (0.6) 1.0
Gallagher (0.5) 1.5
J Vegas (rookie) 1.8


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 10:24 
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Saturday Nite Geezer wrote:
Schwartzel (2.3) 32.8


You should fix that!


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 10:49 
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Ooh, I love a competition. I would be pleased to beat Mr Green in this one!

Tiger (6.5) - 4.6
Westwood (3.6) - 4.4
Kaymer (3.2) - 5.0
Stenson (2.8) - 1.2
S Garcia (2.6) - 1.8
Schwartzel (2.3) - 2.6
Donald (2.2) - 3.2
Kuchar (1.8) - 2.8
F. Molinari (1.6) 2.8
B. Watson (1.1) - 2.2
B Haas (1.1) 1.8
M Wilson (1.0) 1.2 - think he's done his work for the year though!
SY Noh (1.0) - 1.3
T Aiken (1.0) - 1.3
Cabrera-Bello (0.9) - 1.4
DA Points (0.8) - 1.0
Manassero (0.8) - 2.8
J. Parry (0.6) - 0.8
Gallagher (0.5) - 0.9
J Vegas (rookie) - 1.8


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 Post subject: The Price Is Right
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 11:09 
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That's incredible. I was only thinking of this very competition on the train on the way to work this morning!

To be honest, I've only just started working on the player list and pricing (very busy with other sports - and indeed finance games - at the moment), but we're getting there...

The majority of prices will be pencilled in prior to the WGC Cadillac Championship, allowing for the odd change following the completion of the event - I would then expect the site to launch sometime during the week commencing 14th March.

Some "interesting" predictions thus far...


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 11:45 
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Excellent comp polarbear :D
Tiger (6.5) 4.0
Westwood (3.6) 4.2
Kaymer (3.2) 5.0
Stenson (2.8) 1.6
S Garcia (2.6) 1.6
Schwartzel (2.3) 2.3
Donald (2.2) 3.8
Kuchar (1.8) 2.8
F. Molinari (1.6) 1.9
B. Watson (1.1) 2.0
B Hass (1.1) 1.8
M Wilson (1.0) 1.6
SY Noy (1.0) 1.3
T Aiken (1.0) 1.3
Cabrera-Bello (0.9) 1.2
DA Points (0.8) 1.0
Mannasero (0.8) 1.6
J. Parry (0.6) 0.9
Gallagher (0.5) 1.4
J Vegas (rookie) 1.5


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 12:07 
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My guesswork :

Tiger (6.5) 5.2
Westwood (3.6) 4.3
Kaymer (3.2) 4.5
Stenson (2.8) 1.8
S Garcia (2.6) 1.8
Schwartzel (2.3) 2.5
Donald (2.2) 3.9
Kuchar (1.8) 3.0
F. Molinari (1.6) 2.5
B. Watson (1.1) 2.2
B Hass (1.1) 1.7
M Wilson (1.0) 2.0
SY Noy (1.0) 1.5
T Aiken (1.0) 1.4
Cabrera-Bello (0.9) 1.2
DA Points (0.8) 1.1
Mannasero (0.8) 1.8
J. Parry (0.6) 1.2
Gallagher (0.5) 1.5
J Vegas (rookie) 1.7

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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 12:11 
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Good idea PB :)


Tiger (6.5) 4.8
Westwood (3.6) 4.4
Kaymer (3.2) 4.5
Stenson (2.8) 2.0
S Garcia (2.6) 2.2
Schwartzel (2.3) 2.5
Donald (2.2) 3.5
Kuchar (1.8) 2.6
F. Molinari (1.6) 2.6
B. Watson (1.1) 2.0
B Hass (1.1) 2.0
M Wilson (1.0) 1.5
SY Noy (1.0) 1.5
T Aiken (1.0) 1.2
Cabrera-Bello (0.9) 1.2
DA Points (0.8) 1.2
Mannasero (0.8) 1.6
J. Parry (0.6) 0.9
Gallagher (0.5) 1.2
J Vegas (rookie) 1.4


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 12:23 
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Better get my own list up!

Tiger 5
Westwood 4.2
Kaymer 4
Stenson 1.7
S Garcia 2.3
Schwartzel 2.6
Donald 3.2
Kuchar 3.0
F. Molinari 2.3
B. Watson 2.4
B Hass 2.3
M Wilson 1.6
SY Noy 1.9
T Aiken 1.6
Cabrera-Bello 1.0
DA Points 1.0
Mannasero 1.9
J. Parry 0.9
Gallagher 1.7
J Vegas 1.4


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 12:42 
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Tiger (6.5) 5.2
Westwood (3.6) 4.8
Kaymer (3.2) 5.0
Stenson (2.8) 1.7
S Garcia (2.6) 1.8
Schwartzel (2.3) 2.7
Donald (2.2) 3.4
Kuchar (1.8) 3.0
F. Molinari (1.6) 2.4
B. Watson (1.1) 2.4
B Hass (1.1) 1.8
M Wilson (1.0) 1.1
SY Noy (1.0) 1.2
T Aiken (1.0) 1.0
Cabrera-Bello (0.9) 0.8
DA Points (0.8) 0.9
Mannasero (0.8) 1.8
J. Parry (0.6) 0.8
Gallagher (0.5) 1.2
J Vegas (rookie) 1.3


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 Post subject: The Budget Speech
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 15:07 
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Here we go...

Tiger (6.5) 1.0
Westwood (3.6) 3.0
Kaymer (3.2) 3.0
Stenson (2.8) 0.1
S(ebi) Garcia (2.6) 0.5
Schwartzel (2.3) 2.0
Donald (2.2) 2.0
Kuchar (1.8) 2.0
F. Molinari (1.6) 2.0
Watson (1.1) 2.0
Haas (1.1) 2.0
M Wilson (1.0) 1.0
Noh (1.0) 1.0
Aiken (1.0) 1.0
Cabrera-Bello (0.9) 1.0
Points (0.8) 1.0
Manassero (0.8) 1.0
Parry (0.6) 1.0
Gallacher (0.5) 1.0
Vegas (rookie) 1.0

Do I win?


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 Post subject: Re: The Budget Speech
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 15:12 
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Mr Green wrote:
Do I win?


You tell me!

Rotter - I was so looking forward to seeing your picks! :evil: :cry:


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 18:52 
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I'm loving the Stenson value :lol:

Still wouldn't pick him :P


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 19:35 
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Tiger (6.5) 4.5
Westwood (3.6) 4.4
Kaymer (3.2) 5.2
Stenson (2.8) 1.5
S Garcia (2.6) 1.8
Schwartzel (2.3) 2.6
Donald (2.2) 3.8
Kuchar (1.8) 3.0
F. Molinari (1.6) 2.7
B. Watson (1.1) 2.5
B Hass (1.1) 1.9
M Wilson (1.0) 1.5
SY Noy (1.0) 1.8
T Aiken (1.0) 1.5
Cabrera-Bello (0.9) 1.5
DA Points (0.8) 1.2
Mannasero (0.8) 1.8
J. Parry (0.6) 1.0
Gallagher (0.5) 1.1
J Vegas (rookie) 1.1

Excellent idea for a comp, plus Mr Green gets a chance to see how the market views things. No doubt he will use the knowledge that the collective view is almost always more accurate than any one individual. Perhaps all entrants should receive some kind of consultancy fee?


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 19:40 
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toffeelover wrote:
I'm loving the Stenson value :lol:

Still wouldn't pick him :P

How about 100/1 e/w for the Masters? :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 20:08 
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el_pappje wrote:
toffeelover wrote:
I'm loving the Stenson value :lol:

Still wouldn't pick him :P

How about 100/1 e/w for the Masters? :oops:


Not bad value..............as long as you can add a zero to the usual, and make it e/w top 50 :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2011, 23:14 
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Tiger (6.5) 6.0
Westwood (3.6) 5.0
Kaymer (3.2) 4.8
Stenson (2.8) 1.0
S Garcia (2.6) 1.7
Schwartzel (2.3) 2.5
Donald (2.2) 3.8
Kuchar (1.8) 2.5
F. Molinari (1.6) 2.2
B. Watson (1.1) 1.8
B Hass (1.1) 1.5
M Wilson (1.0) 1.4
SY Noy (1.0) 1.2
T Aiken (1.0) 1.0
Cabrera-Bello (0.9) 0.8
DA Points (0.8) 1.1
Mannasero (0.8) 1.5
J. Parry (0.6) 0.8
Gallagher (0.5) 1.5
J Vegas (rookie) 1.0

good luck all,nice 1 pb.


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2011, 01:30 
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Tiger (6.5) 4.6
Westwood (3.6) 4.5
Kaymer (3.2) 4.6
Stenson (2.8) 1.5
S Garcia (2.6) 1.8
Schwartzel (2.3) 2.9
Donald (2.2) 3.4
Kuchar (1.8) 3.0
F. Molinari (1.6) 3.0
B. Watson (1.1) 2.7
B Hass (1.1) 2.3
M Wilson (1.0) 1.9
SY Noy (1.0) 1.7
T Aiken (1.0) 1.5
Cabrera-Bello (0.9) 1.5
DA Points (0.8) 1.1
Mannasero (0.8) 1.9
J. Parry (0.6) 0.9
Gallagher (0.5) 1.4
J Vegas (rookie) 1.7


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2011, 09:05 
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Tiger (6.5) 4.5
Westwood (3.6) 4.2
Kaymer (3.2) 4.2
Stenson (2.8) 1.6
S Garcia (2.6) 1.6
Schwartzel (2.3) 2.8
Donald (2.2) 3.0
Kuchar (1.8) 2.4
F. Molinari (1.6) 2.1
B. Watson (1.1) 2.4
B Hass (1.1) 1.9
M Wilson (1.0) 1.4
SY Noy (1.0) 1.4
T Aiken (1.0) 1.2
Cabrera-Bello (0.9) 1.0
DA Points (0.8) 0.9
Mannasero (0.8) 1.8
J. Parry (0.6) 1.0
Gallagher (0.5) 1.2
J Vegas (rookie) 1.0


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2011, 12:39 
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Tiger (5.5)
Westwood (6.1)
Kaymer (6.1)
Stenson (2.8)
S Garcia (2.8)
Schwartzel (4.1)
Donald (5.6)
Kuchar (5.4)
F. Molinari (3.2)
B. Watson (4.2)
B Hass (3.4)
M Wilson (4.4)
SY Noy (3.8)
T Aiken (2.8)
Cabrera-Bello (2.9)
DA Points (2.8)
Mannasero (3.1)
J. Parry (2.6)
Gallagher (1.8)
J Vegas (2.2)


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 Post subject: Inflation
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2011, 12:44 
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rubikqube wrote:
Tiger (5.5)
Westwood (6.1)
Kaymer (6.1)
Stenson (2.8)
S Garcia (2.8)
Schwartzel (4.1)
Donald (5.6)
Kuchar (5.4)
F. Molinari (3.2)
B. Watson (4.2)
B Hass (3.4)
M Wilson (4.4)
SY Noy (3.8)
T Aiken (2.8)
Cabrera-Bello (2.9)
DA Points (2.8)
Mannasero (3.1)
J. Parry (2.6)
Gallagher (1.8)
J Vegas (2.2)


Blimey...I wouldn't fancy picking a team of 12 with those prices!

To be honest, I'm really not taking any of the predictions in this thread into account when producing my own player list prices (just my own tried and tested method), but interesting to see some of the predictions even so - some are very close to the mark, others not so...

I'll let you know my criteria for determining prices after the deadline, which may help you for next year!


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2011, 12:55 
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Just an after thought -

If anyone wants to edit their picks could they please do so on a new post rather than editing their original post. This will let me know that a change has been made.


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2011, 14:02 
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Tiger (6.5) 4.2
Westwood (3.6) 4.5
Kaymer (3.2) 4.6
Stenson (2.8) 1.5
S Garcia (2.6) 1.4
Schwartzel (2.3) 2.3
Donald (2.2) 4.0
Kuchar (1.8) 3.2
F. Molinari (1.6) 2.4
B. Watson (1.1) 2.4
B Haas (1.1) 1.7
M Wilson (1.0) 1.6
SY Noh (1.0) 1.5
T Aiken (1.0) 1.2
Cabrera-Bello (0.9) 1.1
DA Points (0.8) 1.2
Mannasero (0.8) 1.6
J. Parry (0.6) 1.0
Gallagher (0.5) 1.4
J Vegas (rookie) 1.4


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2011, 14:17 
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Here we go :D

      Tiger (6.5) 4.0
      Westwood (3.6) 4.4
      Kaymer (3.2) 4.6
      Stenson (2.8) 1.6
      S Garcia (2.6) 1.4
      Schwartzel (2.3) 2.3
      Donald (2.2) 4.2
      Kuchar (1.8) 3.4
      F. Molinari (1.6) 2.4
      B. Watson (1.1) 2.5
      B Hass (1.1) 1.8
      M Wilson (1.0) 1.8
      SY Noh (1.0) 1.6
      T Aiken (1.0) 1.3
      Cabrera-Bello (0.9) 1.1
      DA Points (0.8) 1.4
      Mannasero (0.8) 2.0
      J. Parry (0.6) 1.0
      Gallagher (0.5) 1.5
      J Vegas (rookie) 1.5


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 Post subject: Re: OFL Players - Guess their value competition
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2011, 16:59 
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 Post subject: Price Check
PostPosted: 04 Mar 2011, 14:42 
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If people are keen, I'm happy to provide a "live update" on Tuesday (i.e. after the deadline) with the provisional prices for this subset of players.

However, prices would still be subject to change until the site goes live the following week (and could be affected by results in the WGC Cadillac Championship).

We're all set for the largest player list in history - 442, I make it!

Mr Green


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 Post subject: Re: Price Check
PostPosted: 04 Mar 2011, 16:13 
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Mr Green wrote:
I'm happy to provide a "live update" on Tuesday (i.e. after the deadline) with the provisional prices for this subset of players.


That would be handy. :) it's the final value that will count, but surely a players value wouldn't change much over one tournament. :wink:


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