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 Post subject: My DT summary
PostPosted: 12 Aug 2008, 20:16 
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Right, as the season gets close, and the window starts to shrink, i thought i would try to summarise what we have specualted and compiled over the last few weeks.

The views expressed in this thread are that of general consensus gathered by SDT players and FISOers alike across the whole community. These points are given in relevance to TheSun specific. I have tried not to let my personal opinion get in the way.

Goalkeepers

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Generally the most talked about 'keepers are Green, Gomes, Kirkland and Gordon. Most up for 3m, and offer a potential value. Of these, only Gomes is in europe, but the others offer a higher NOTW potential.

A niggling back injury seems to be playing against Kirkland at the moment, but has his england cap, is in an ever improving Wigan side, and plenty of ability if fit.
Gomes is a CK, but comes with a good record for Holland. Great throw - if he can catch it :wink:
Green has had contractual problems, will they effect him? A solid keeper, with good NOTW potential - how much do you trust the rest of the hammers defense?
And a keeper tipped by a few is Gordon. Black cats paid a lot for him, and he is in a team with plenty of new signings looking to kick on from their first season in the prem.

Not so talked about - potential
Friedel, Turnbull / Jones, Schwarzer, Robinson, Jussi If you can pick the starter out of the boro team, then all of these can just about offer good scoring potential.

Many tipping a big season for Villa, and Friedel always scored well for a mid table team. If Knight plays, the Brad can expect to be saving his fair share of penalties!

Blackburn have had a difficult pre-season losing two of their best players, and hanging onto RSC by the skin of their teeth. Calamity prone Robbo will be looking to force his way back into the England side.

My pick, if you know who it is, will be one of the 'boro keepers. 2m can offer good enough value for a good team, with some good emerging talent protecting the keeper.

Fulham had a great end to the season, but with two good keepers knocking on his door, how viable an option is Schwarzer. Some good seasons for 'boro, and if Fulham carry on where they left off, he'll match his value with points.

And finally, the class act that is Jussi Jaaskelainen. Bolton have been a solid enough team over the years, but seem to be losing their edge. Expect the battling trotters to pick up a few clean sheets, and Jussi is about as reliable as they come.

Not so talked about - out priced.
James, VDS, Cech, Reina, Howard, Almunia, Given. When looking for value in our keepers then we tend to always stay away from the expensive ones. A tactic proven, but you know that you are guaranteed points with most of these.

Howard, Given and Almunia are massively overpriced in my opinion, with the latter two not nailed on as first choice.

VDS has the emergence of a fit Ben Foster to think about, but will remain first choice. Fantastic keeper that will get plenty of clean sheets. Does he do enough to pick up the 7s that justify his price tag though.

Cech may still be thinking about dumping his countrymen out of the euros single handidly. Thought of as one of the best keepers in the world, a tag he has struggled to live up to since his serious injury.

Reina about best value out of the big bunch in my opinion

Pompey have some great defenders, and James will score well. Can they keep as many clean sheets as last year, and with them being in europe now, James may miss out on some of those NOTW points had scooped up last year.

Any that i have missed, feel free to comment on........


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Defenders

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Agger, Bosingwa, Lescott. All three seem to dominate most teams, with a few others appearing in the vast majority.
Liverpool are well known for their rotation policy, and i can't see that changing too much this season. Agger should be first choice centre back though, so that potential offers great value. Expect high 30s, low 40s in games if injury free, with Skrtel and Hyypia featuring in most carling cup and FA cup games. Agger may also be rested against lesser opposition before a champions league tie.

Bosingwa is a dangerous but hugely tempting pick. Top four side, the Evra of this season has picked up an early injury, and we can only hope he doesnt turn out to be the next Ekotto. Worth the gamble early doors, but easily brought in at TW1 if he nails down the starter place we suspect. Under a manager that knows him well, expect him to start when fit.

Everton are yet to sign a single player, and this worries me slightly. A lot of points from goals, and expect Lescott to weigh in with a few more this season. TheSun do love him, and he very rarely fails to get a seven. Overpriced though in my opinion.

Talked about - potential VFM
Neville, Baines, Bale, Davies, O'Brien, Wheater. All of these lads are slight gambles, but all offer great VFM if selected.

Captain of the champions, but with injury troubles clouding his selection, and the emergence of Wes Brown as an excellent replacement, i expect big Nev to play his part this season, and collect a few points. I honestly feel SAF wants him to play, and for that reason, he will be selected enough times to warrant the price tag....just.

Spurs, as said before, have had a great pre-season, and although Bale has not featured heavily, we saw the potential before his injury last season. Ramos may use him as either full back, or left wing, and i think he will get his fair share of games. Huge potential for points in this lad, but more one to look at at TW1 if he is starting.

Davies looked set for a starting bearth, but with the signing of Cuellar, i think his value has just gone through the floor. MON likes to play as much of a settled side as he can, so it's a battle between the two as to who can get fit first.

Danny Shittu has brought a black cloud over the value of O'Brien. Many think he will still start, and with Cahill getting sent off in a friendly, another slip like that could see young Gary shoved aside. If O'Brien offers such value, i'm not sure why the same isnt said for Jussi. A decent enabler, but i'm not convinced he is worth it.

'Boro have unearthed a gem in Wheater, and i expect this lad to wrack up a few points this season. Unfortunately i don't trust the 'boro defense enough to take a gamble on him myself. Scoring potential close to that of Lescott, so i'd expect most of his points to come from this and NOTW ratings.

Spend it wisely.
Terry, Arsenal back 4, Dunne, Laursen, Johnson. All are quite expensive, but you feel may offer decent points. All in europe, and have decent DT records.

Many feel this season will be the return of the King John Terry. I have to say i agree. Niggling injuries aside, the guy faces a straight up battle with Ferdinand for top defender in my opinion. Rio is massively overpriced tho, and we know of the Chelsea captains potential for goals and clean sheets. It's also an unwritten rule, Terry plays - Terry gets a 7.

The whole Arsenal back four are quite expensive. But, they have a great looking start, and are as settled as any team in the premiership. Gallas and Toure will weigh in with a couple of goals, but for me to have one of their full backs, i'd need assists to count. Costly in my opinion, and only worth having one of them for TW1.

ManC are right up sh*t creek at the mo. Dunne misses the first two games of the season, but if your looking for season long potential, then have him if you wish. Personally don't think he is worth the price, and nor is Richards in my opinion. I could easily be wrong though.

Aston Villa captain may need time to adjust to his FOUR new playmates. Villa can be conceived as a risk while the defense has a settling in period, but you know Laursen will get you goals, and i can say from watching the guy as a Villa fan that he is absolutely amazing.

Pompey had a rubbish end to the season, and didnt play too well in the charity shield, but they do have a good defense. Like last year, they have a very tough start (Chelsea away, ManU home), but i would feel confident of them getting clean sheets at home. Last season i advised people stear clear early doors and they wracked up the points. Even so, i am personally not touching them until i see an improvement in form. Johnson pops up with the odd goal, and his attacking nature often warrants a 7.

Hardly mentioned & enablers
Cahill, Hangeland, Carvalho, Cacapa, King, Scharner. These boys offer something of a tempting little gamble to us all. Some cheap, some expensive, but they all have their potential.

Bolton looked a much improved side with Gary Cahill at the back. At 3m i can undrstand why people are tempted. He was good at the Villa, and i was shocked MON let him go. I expect most of his points to be NOTW bonuses, with a couple of clean sheets thrown in.

Hangeland. At 1.5m i see the attraction. However, i don't know enough about him to comment. All i do know, is i can't name the Fulham back four, and can't see them keeping many clean sheets.

Mirror what i said about Terry, but minus 30 odd points, and you have Carvalho. The difference in the two will only be down to 7s. Ricardo started off a hated man by the sun, and never got a 7. Last season that all changed, but it was maybe down to the absense of Terry that suddenly made him the number one defender. Got goals in him, and 7s, if the sun rate him fairly.

Newcastle defenders are not something we often talk about, but in Cacapa, at 2m, i think there is real bargain potential. Kevin Keegan doesnt know how to defend, fair enough, but this guy does. For 2m, i think this lad has plenty of points potential.

Spurs captain Ledley King, if fit, will be one of tha bargains of the season. He will play alongside Woodgate in what looks like a decent pre-season team. His fitness is obviously a major issue, but once he is back, clean sheets will come Spurs way. Twice the defender of Dawson, i will be keeping my eye on him for TW1

Currently injured, but an improving Wigan side have a major goal threat in Scharner. At 3.5m he is not too cheap, and i would rather stick my money on Wheater. That said, he is one to watch.

Who cares
Promoted teams, Blackburn. Have not heard anything on these four teams, and maybe rightly so. I expect all promoted teams to struggle, and Blackburn, with the loss of Friedel, offer less value. Ooijer crossed my mind for 30 seconds, but with Paul Ince at the helm, i can understand why everyone is playing a 'wait and see' game with card prone back line.


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Midfielders

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Young, Lampard, Gerrard, Walcott :roll: . Most midfields will comprise of at least two of these four, and in some cases three of them. Two proven, two to prove. Without Ronaldo, all eyes turn to the England duo as the 'main man in the middle'.

Listed as a striker last year, the potential in Ashley Young is there for all to see. In TFF and FPL, he was the first name down on my team sheet. Eight goals last season, and one competitively already this term, the world is in the palm of his hands. Rated by TheTon as the 2nd best player in the world :P (bias failing miserably there), but the price of 5.5m will be difficult for him to match up to. Anything less than 200points will be a disappointing season for him.

With Lampard fit and playing, the guy is literally a DT points machine. Always gets a 7, and often collects star man accolades he does not deserve. F*ck the competition for places in Chelseas midfield, Fat Frank will get you an easy 300pts if he stays fit.

Liverpools homegrown hero. A summer off, not only from football, but from transfer speculation, many expect big things from Gerrard again this term. An impressive season last year, and the points he will get are a given - its just a shame he has picked up a niggle early doors.

The Arsenal side seems to be falling to pieces before the season is even under way. Many feel another midfielder is needed, and with injuries mounting up, Walcott needs to step up to the plate. Bags of potential, and an eye for goal, how near the end product is this guy. Wenger liked to play Eboue down the right from time to time, and i think he will nick game time off Walcott on a consistent basis (especially in tougher away games, where Walcotts pace is effective late on). 4.5m is a gamble too far for me, for someone yet to prove themselves. I hold my hands up to being against his DT selection, but will be more than happy if he performs well, and shows good hope for an England career.


The also-rans
Diarra, Bentley, Ballack, Essien, Cahill, Dos Santos. All 6 of these guys are tipped to score well, and i agree that most will. All in europe, some with a point to prove, but each have their pit-falls.

Again, i mentioned the form of Pompey, and their tough start, but this guy has loads of potential. Not much of an eye for goal, but will pick up a few star men, and some NOTW points. Diarra is a watched man by many top clubs and Pompey have done well to hold on to him - but does he really offer DT value?

Bentley has secured the move he wanted, and has had a flier in the two pre-season games he has played. The price tag of 6m makes me really question his VFM, especially against someone like Young. Regardless, he has a great shot on him, in an attcking side, and he is English, something the sun love. Will score well, but not well enough to justify 6m in my opinion.

Ballack and Essien are both great players, at very tempting prices. Ballack though seems to revel in the Lampard role, something i am yet to see them do well together in. The Germany captain is a tempting price at 5.5m, and i expect him to feature a lot for Chelsea, and in many DT. Essien will thrive on the purchase of Bosingwa, finally getting to play in his favoured position. The tough tackling midfielder will get the odd goal, and the odd starman, but plenty of bookings as well.

Spurs players keep cropping up, and here is a potential gem in Dos Santos. Feelings are that he will be this seasons Elano, and i wouldnt back against it. The tricky forward may well score a few goals, and pick up some starmen awards, but his lightweight build and CK factor work against him at this early stage. A gamble, but one i would be willing to take. 3.5m is a good price.

Everton injury prone Aussie scores very well when fit, but getting him fit is half the problem. A cracking payer, with great DT VFM potential, but his glass bones are so off putting. Arteta is in a similar mould, and offers a slightly better VFM in my opinion.

How much????
Barry, Deco, Bullard, M Petrov, Modric, Kranjcar. I can't help but feel these guys have been priced out. All have potential, but would need to exceed my expectations in order to offer any sort of VFM.

With all the transfer rubbish, Barry has many bridges to build if he stays at Villa park. The captaincy has gone, and with it, a lot of respect. Will go one of two ways - sulky and miserable, not worth a penny, or different class, player of the season, and secure the move he wants. With each passing day, his value goes down.

For a CK, that doesnt score many goals, Deco is hugely over priced in my opinion. Nuff said.

Petrov had a great season last year, but for 5m, i can't help but feel my money is better spent elsewhere. Again, assists would swing it for me, but as he can't get those, i don't believe he will give me a good return for my money - too inconsistent.

Big fish in a small pond. When Fulham play well, or get a result, it's because Bullard has played well. A good DT points scorer, who will get goals from free kicks and the odd belter. It's a shame Danny Murphy is captain, as he will probably assume penalty taking responsibility. Bullard is close to being worth that value, but they should knock 1m off just for him not being in europe.

After a good euros, Modric arrives at Spurs with a big act to follow. 4m is not really a shocking price, and for 0.5m less i would put him in the same catagory as Dos Santos. Too much money for a lightweight CK for me.

4.5m for one of the most hot and cold players i have ever seen. Kranjcar will get you a goal and starman one week, then vanish like he doesnt exist for the next two. Diarra offers better VFM in that midfield for me, although when the guy turns up, he'll get you points.

So who did we forget?
Nasri, Scholes, Sidwell, Nolan, Fernandes, Nani, Downing, Duff, Valencia. All of the mentioned have potential in their own right. Maybe their value is generous, or their DT credentials proven, but all can be considered.

Nasri is in the same sort of mould as Modric. A CK, but in an Arsenal team with an inviting start. Expect him to do well, but not convinced well enough before TW1 to warrant an early inclusion.

The worst tackler in the history of football, Scholes offers you an ManU player for 3.5m. Still a class act, and a firm favourite of SAFs, he is not giving up his place in the middle without a fight. Dependable, but lacking the goals of late that justified his old price tag. Could be a tempted though this year.

If Barry stays, then 3m for Sidwell doesnt look so great. Not had much first team action, so made need time to settle into the pace of the premiership, and has picked up an early knock. By TW1 i think we'll know more.

Nolan used to collect DT points quicker than em999 collected enemies. For 3.5m, is it not worth a gamble that he can do it again this term? A good price in my opinion.

I picked Gelson Fernandes out based on his price. For 2.5m i think he offers some value. Make what you will of it, but with ManC facing many off pitch troubles, he could still not offer any VFM. One to watch in my opinion.

Nani is banned for the first two games, but over the course of the season, i expect him to come close to offer reward for his price tag. Needs to grow up a little, but by next season, i think his price will have inflated. A season long pick - is he better value than Essien??

Is 5m too much for Downing? I think so. Not a patch on Ashley Young, but one of the best players in his team. Much like Bullard at Fulham, i can see where his potential lies, but not worth it for me

If, and it's a big if, Duff stays fit......well you know the rest. For 2m, the irishman could offer huge VFM.

And finally, Valencia is a promising player, but he plays for Wigan. Just doesnt sound right does it. Decent price, and will score quite well. I just feel that he is an impact player, and to get a 7, he needs to produce something every game, and that's not easy in the prem. May well be spurred on from rumoured interest from bigger clubs.


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VFM, injuries and DT records stand up for all of the popular early selections. Tevez, Bent, Yakubu, Torres & Defoe all offer something different, but are all in europe, and most importantly, all know where the back of the net is.

With early illness to Rooney, the Tevez bandwagon picked up rapid pace. SNN though keep going over and over the Berbatov saga, and it is enough to keep me waiting before jumping on board. A cracking price at 5.5m, but loses some of that value if the Bulgarian signs.

Well, what to say about Darren Bent? I will be honest, i have him in all my SDT teams at the moment, and you'll be hard pushed to find many that don't. Could be brought in at TW1 in a possible move to free up funds for Ronaldo, with this giving you a chance to see if he was worth the gamble. The problem by then is, you may have missed the cheapest boat in the premiership.

With the sale of AJ to Fulham, i don't know if i should be worried, or elated for Yakubu in his lone role up top. Anichebe is at the olymipcs, and Cahill has his injury problems. Traditionally though, the Yak goes out the blocks like a steam train, so for 5m you are getting a top 5 striker, in a good team, in europe, with a proven DT record. Can't ask for much more than that.

Liverpool will expect much of the same from Torres this season, and i have been amazed at how many different teams i have seen him in. A world class striker no doubt, with a great eye for goal, but can he reproduce it? An £8.5m price tag says he can. I'm not convinced. Will the arrival of Keane help or hinder? Rotation is not a worry, because regardless of what we spout, Rafa does always stick with a core that play 40 odd games a season, and Torres is one of them. Long way to go to justify that price tag imo.

When he plays, he scores. Traditionally, Defoe is one the best SDT players of recent years. At spurs his chances were limited, but he still got you goals. I expect the same from him from pompey, but as mentioned in earlier threads, their form has me worried, and he may need time to settle into his new surroundings, partnership with Crouch. Tempting price for a striker in europe, guaranteed goals throughout the season. Understandably popular pick.

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RVP, Adebayor, Keane, Alves, Ashton, Crouch. Maybe it is the injury concerns that put you off, or the price tag that draws you in, but each of these strikers have something appealing to most DT players.

If he could stay fit, or at least show he knows how to come back from an injury quickly, then at 5.5m this would be the bargain of the season. Exploded out of the blocks last term, while playing alongside, and over shadowing his strike partner Adebayor. How will RVP react to being the number 2 up top now? His only answer is to do it with goals. Vela, Eduardo and Bendtner will all be challenging for his place soon, so if your gonna gamble, you might as well do it now, and cut your losses at TW1 if it doesnt work out.

I brought Adebayor into all my teams at TW1 last year as a direct replacement for the injured RVP. A drastic (but justified) rise in price for the Togo front man prices him out for me. I honestly believe that hs points will be halved if RVP stays fit (opinion - not fact!), with the summer of transfer speculation, Adebayor needs to warm himself back to the gunners faithful. How much impact these factors have on his SDT potential, only you can decide.

Robbie Keane will score goals where ever he plays (apart from Italy :wink: ). The price is a tempting one for anyone. It's a case of deciding if he now has more players to share goals and starman awards with, or weather this batch of better players can only help and improve his DT score. Tough one to call.

Alves like he is going to be the main man at 'boro this season. Scored a few last year, and showed an eye for goal, but i just can't help but feel 4m is too much. It's probably not, and he'll probably get off to a flier, but if he doesnt, then Tuncay, Aliadiere, Mido and Emnes are snapping at his heals for his place. loves to arrive late across goal, so expect some sort of progressive partnership with Downing to develop.

Injury concerns aside, Ashton is a great player. I was amazed at how much his price went up considering he got crocked again last term. Not the absolute bargain he was last year, but should feature on a regular basis for the Hammers, and should comfortably justify 3.5m - if fit.

Finally, the little and large combo of Crouch and Defoe is under the watchful eye of many ff players. I have mentioned pompey further up the thread, so my opinion stands. But, Crouch is much better value at pompey than he would have been at Liverpool.

Forgotton gems and gambles
RSC, McCarthy, Carew, Drogba, Babel, Owen, Berbatov. What to say about this motley crew? A real pick 'n' mix of potential, DT value and gambling of the highest order.

RSC & McCarthy, you would think, will form the front line of Blackburn this season? At 2.5m McCarthy is a man that scored over 200pts just two seasons ago. The arrival of RSC, and some niggling injuries didnt help him last year, but he still got 9 goals. By TW1 i think McCarthy may come into some consideration, where as RSC seems to be a forgotton man. Hardly mentioned in any RMT thread, probably because the like of RVP, Defoe and Keane seem like a more attractive prospect at the same price - why though?

Aston Villa currently have two strikers, and big John Carew is one of them, with no challenge for his place. When fit, Carew is cracking in front of goal. With Ashley Young sticking some of the best crosses in the world into the box, Carew will guarantee you several goals. For the price of 4.5m, a real potential big points scorer.

Injured for now, Drogba represents the most expensive gamble in DT. Surely his price should have come down to less than 8m for a guy that only scored about 150pts last season. He did however get the golden boot the season before, with 33 goals and a huge points total. When he is back fit, Drogba will muscle he way up the DT points chart, but 8m at this stage would be wasted.

Currently at the olympics, Babel is my man to watch. Similar mould to Ashley Young, its a shame he is not listed as a midfielder, as he mainly plays out wide for 'pool. Scoring for fun in China, and with huge flair and potential, Babel offers a great alternative at just 3.5m

If you open a dictionary up on the word injury, there is a picture of Michael Owen. Englands hottest talent in front of goal has been plagued by thigh strains, hamstring strains, calf strains, you name the strain, Owen has had it. At 5m he is a big gamble, but in an attacking Newcastle side, we know that if he gets a chance, he gets a goal. Even if he puts a run of 7 or 8 games together, you just know that eventually, he'll get injured again. Only worth a gamble until TW1. The gap from TW1 till TW2 could see you one man down for a long long time.

The price is a tricky one for me. Will Berbatov score more than Adebayor for the price? Will he score more at Spurs, or ManU? Is his attitude bad, or is that paper talk? Can he fit into ManUs style of play, and with Tevez and Rooney? Many questions surround Berbatov, so for 7.5m i'd like some of then cleared up before i splash my cash. That said, a terrific playr, that will get goals, if he stays, or if he goes.



That concludes my summary, hope you enjoyed it.

Just to remind you, the views and opinions expressed in this piece are largely that of individual and collective opinion. Some factual stats have been thrown in, but it is the readers discretion on how serious they take my findings. Basically don't blame me if you pick your team based on my summary and it goes tits up


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Drink Up! I was getting into that.
I'm Attending a Dreamteam Auction tomorrow night and this condensed summary was shaping up to be my secret weapon!!


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maradonash wrote:
Drink Up! I was getting into that.
I'm Attending a Dreamteam Auction tomorrow night and this condensed summary was shaping up to be my secret weapon!!



Just got in, will finish it tomorrow :wink:


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Done the defense and the midfield, will do the forwards this afternoon.

Enjoy the read boys and girls


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a great read, very informative. i look forward to your views on the forwards. i must admit that is where i am at a loss


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Excellent stuff Ton, you're a true fiso legend. Can't wait for the striker installment :D


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I feel i've wasted the last 6 weeks of my life researching, calculating and pontificating............. I should have just waited and read this instead!! :lol:

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superb stuff!

altho i don't like what you've written about o'brien :twisted:


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All this summarizing leaves me baffled as to where you possibly find time to fit work in :shock:

Do tell.... :wink:


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great summary 8-)


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Very informative and a well written piece.
However, and this is not a slant, Prefer Zarch's factual pieces, as opposed to a somewhat individual opinion(even though it was bloody good) as i disagreed with alot of the players you had in brackets and discussed.

However, and i know it's difficult to believe as it looks like i am over criticising your thoughts, excellent insight on the whole. :wink:


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Excellent stuff for the newbie but it won't win you the "La Log League Premiership",
that's a toss up between me & Crompton :P :wink: :wink:


Seriously excellent stuff 8-)


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However, and this is not a slant, Prefer Zarch's factual pieces


High praise indeed..... i'm overcome with pride and embarrassment !! :oops:


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I feel i've wasted the last 6 weeks of my life researching, calculating and pontificating............. I should have just waited and read this instead!! :lol:

Top Man!!


:lol: this is true. Great write up TheTon.


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Zarch wrote:
I feel i've wasted the last 6 weeks of my life researching, calculating and pontificating............. I should have just waited and read this instead!! :lol:

Top Man!!


Couldn't have put it better myself. Great post, just hope none of my mates see it! :D


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Good work. Its nice to see there are others out there with a similar, level headed views to me... I should warn you though - I'm normally wrong though ;-)

Cheers for taking the time to write it up - a good read. Looking forward to the forwards, which I'm sure will question the Bent bandwagon, cover the role for Keane at Spurs, state the Yak as solid value, advise caution with sicknote RVP, put forward Tevez for top points scorer at TW1 depending on the standard of the new striker Fergie brings in (Berba, Henry, or some bench warmer who wont threaten Tevez starting place) before Tevez tails off a little when Rooney and Ronaldo return, as well as covreing the others fighting for the best 5.5 mil player, and the best 3.5 mil striker fight between Crouch (who the Sun hate) and Ashton (who just cant stay fit). Oh, then there is Alves...


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drbell wrote:
Good work. Its nice to see there are others out there with a similar, LEVEL-HEADED views to me... I should warn you though - I'm normally wrong though ;-)

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Cheers for taking the time to write it up - a good read. Looking forward to the forwards, which I'm sure will question the Bent bandwagon, cover the role for Keane at Spurs, state the Yak as solid value, advise caution with sicknote RVP, put forward Tevez for top points scorer at TW1 depending on the standard of the new striker Fergie brings in (Berba, Henry, or some bench warmer who wont threaten Tevez starting place) before Tevez tails off a little when Rooney and Ronaldo return, as well as covreing the others fighting for the best 5.5 mil player, and the best 3.5 mil striker fight between Crouch (who the Sun hate) and Ashton (who just cant stay fit). Oh, then there is Alves...


That you Kryten?


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Perhaps...

Always remember Space Core Directive 595 - never buy a midfielder who seems always about to have "his season"

or perhaps Space Core Director 34124 - No officer with false teeth should attempt oral sex in zero gravity...

wait, that didn't help at all.


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Zarch wrote:
Dot wrote:
However, and this is not a slant, Prefer Zarch's factual pieces


High praise indeed..... i'm overcome with pride and embarrassment !! :oops:


Zarch, you need to wait until Dot dedicates a picture thread to you to know you've arrived!


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Dot wrote:
Very informative and a well written piece.
However, and this is not a slant, Prefer Zarch's factual pieces, as opposed to a somewhat individual opinion(even though it was bloody good) as i disagreed with alot of the players you had in brackets and discussed.

However, and i know it's difficult to believe as it looks like i am over criticising your thoughts, excellent insight on the whole. :wink:


I did say that in the opening post i was going to try and keep my personal view out as much as possible, and just use the information gathered up by users on the forum over the last few weeks.

You can plug your way through stat after stat if you like, but ultimately your gut feeling (and i know you have an impressive gut dorothy :wink: ) should win the day. Don't get me wrong, Zarchs stats have been a welcome addition to the SDT forum this year (it's always good to have one in house geek :P ), but ultimately the players and their prices need summing up - so that's all i have tried to do.

Also, whenever anyone posts an RMT, just copy and paste the link to this thread, and we can do them all in one go :D


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how did we know zat knight :shock: would be mentioned when talking about freidels saves potential :lol:


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Strikers now added.


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Great Stuff.

I can honestly say i've not got Carew or Berbatov in any of my teams.

I think theres better value than Carew and i can't be having Berby until his head settles down.... and if he goes to United will he still be value at 7.5m with far more competition?? I'm probably gonna wait till TW1 to find out.

But I am on the Bent Bandwagon!! All aboard!! :lol:


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quality summary..... thank you ton


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Nice Ton, sums it all up nicely. A little dissapointed that you've put Carew in teh lime Light though :D he was my secret weapon for exactly the reasons you pointed out! also one of a handful of players that managed a hatrick last season!!

Also Lescott..... expensive compared to whom? 5mil 280 last year - tevez 5.5 212 last year and a bargain this year??? am imissing something?


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Ebbsfleet wrote:
Nice Ton, sums it all up nicely. A little dissapointed that you've put Carew in teh lime Light though :D he was my secret weapon for exactly the reasons you pointed out! also one of a handful of players that managed a hatrick last season!!

Also Lescott..... expensive compared to whom? 5mil 280 last year - tevez 5.5 212 last year and a bargain this year??? am imissing something?


No not really. Lescott probably is value, i just refuse to believe he will score that well again.


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Thanks TheTon

Darren Bent was not on my radar until I realised he was so cheap in the Sun Game. Great summing up, I am sure the winning team will be scattered amongst the players you have highlighted.


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