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 Post subject: Re: Liverpool 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
PostPosted: 22 Sep 2011, 12:01 
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I think that is the right team for the weekend.

I'd go with Skrtel and Adam despite their red cards. Gerrard coming on at 60 minutes whatever the score.


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 Post subject: Re: Liverpool 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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From what I have seen this season , Saturday I would go with

Reina
Kelly , Carragher , Coates or Skrtel , Enrique
Leiva , Adam or Spearing or Gerrard
Kuyt , Bellamy , Downing
Suarez

It remains to be seen if Dalglish feels the need to 'punish' Adam and Skrtel for their red cards

Henderson's form can't justifiably keep Kuyt out of the side

Andy

Cheers Andy, much the same as to what I was thinking for the weekend but if I was KK I'd play Carra at RB with Coates getting a run at CB with Skrtel :)

-----------------------------------Reina----------------------------------
Kelly/Carra-------Carra/Coates--------Skrtel--------Enrique
-------------------------Lucas------------------------------
-------Kuyt-------------------Adam------------Downing-----
--------------Bellamy-----------------Suarez--------------

I would love to see this team when all fit and injury-free:

-----------------------------------Reina----------------------------------
G Johnson----------Coates----------Agger-----------Enrique
--------------------Lucas----------------Adam------------------
Bellamy/Sterling----------Gerrard----------------Downing
-------------------------------Suarez--------------------

Harsh on Carragher who has been one of the finest CB's of his generation but he's lost that yard of pace now and is starting to struggle to deal with the young flyers....Coates is the future!
Tough on Kuyt as well who can always be relyed upon to put a good shift in and I hate including Glen Johnson in a defender role but he is probably the best RB you have at the moment.
I'm struggling to see places for Henderson and Carroll who must be (IMO) now regarded as expensive back-ups for Gerrard and Suarez ??


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 Post subject: Re: Liverpool 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
PostPosted: 22 Sep 2011, 15:44 
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Bandit wrote:
andye wrote:
From what I have seen this season , Saturday I would go with

Reina
Kelly , Carragher , Coates or Skrtel , Enrique
Leiva , Adam or Spearing or Gerrard
Kuyt , Bellamy , Downing
Suarez

It remains to be seen if Dalglish feels the need to 'punish' Adam and Skrtel for their red cards

Henderson's form can't justifiably keep Kuyt out of the side

Andy

Cheers Andy, much the same as to what I was thinking for the weekend but if I was KK I'd play Carra at RB with Coates getting a run at CB with Skrtel :)

-----------------------------------Reina----------------------------------
Kelly/Carra-------Carra/Coates--------Skrtel--------Enrique
-------------------------Lucas------------------------------
-------Kuyt-------------------Adam------------Downing-----
--------------Bellamy-----------------Suarez--------------

I would love to see this team when all fit and injury-free:

-----------------------------------Reina----------------------------------
G Johnson----------Coates----------Agger-----------Enrique
--------------------Lucas----------------Adam------------------
Bellamy/Sterling----------Gerrard----------------Downing
-------------------------------Suarez--------------------

Harsh on Carragher who has been one of the finest CB's of his generation but he's lost that yard of pace now and is starting to struggle to deal with the young flyers....Coates is the future!
Tough on Kuyt as well who can always be relyed upon to put a good shift in.
I'm struggling to see places for Henderson and Carroll who must be (IMO) now regarded as expensive back-ups for Gerrard and Suarez ??


Expensive being the understatment of the year rite?

The day Henderson pleases me in a Liverpool shirt will be the day i start supporting Arsenal.


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 Post subject: Re: Liverpool 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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The day Henderson pleases me in a Liverpool shirt will be the day i start supporting Arsenal.


Quoted for future reference :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Liverpool 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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murf wrote:
sleuth wrote:
The day Henderson pleases me in a Liverpool shirt will be the day i start supporting Arsenal.


Quoted for future reference :wink:


Well he will have to score the winner against Arsenal in a cup final but can't see Arsenal ever being in one of those so yes i feel safe.


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 Post subject: Re: Liverpool 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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Expensive being the understatment of the year rite?

The day Henderson pleases me in a Liverpool shirt will be the day i start supporting Arsenal.

Expensive right now Dot but with the way the Transfer market is going they could both easily turn out to be huge bargains in the future

Chelsea just paid c£12m for a Manager! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Liverpool 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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"Liverpool have confirmed Jonjo Shelvey has joined Blackpool on loan until December 31, 2011."


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 Post subject: Re: Liverpool 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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More game time for Henderson :twisted:


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 Post subject: Re: Liverpool 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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More game time for Henderson :twisted:

Or not... :wink:


Here's your LFC team news...


Reina
Kelly
Skrtel
Carra
Enrique
Kuyt
Adam
Lucas
Downing
Suarez
Carroll

Subs: Doni flannigan coates gerrard spearing henderson bellamy


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 Post subject: Re: Liverpool 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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Liverpool played Rangers in a friendly at Ibrox last night (lost 1-0)

All the starters from the Man U game were rested from the starting XI (except Lucas who is banned for saturday - some came on as subs).

Recent injury returnees Aurelio, Agger and Johnson all started as did Carroll. Gerrard, Enrique, Kelly and Carra didn't feature at all. Reina was an unused sub.

Doni, Johnson, Wilson, Coates, Agger, Spearing, Lucas, Maxi, Aurelio, Carroll, Bellamy.
Subs: Reina, Hansen, Enrique, Henderson, Kuyt, Downing, Adam, Skrtel, Flanagan.

No real idea who was subbed when as I haven't seen the game except that Johnson played 66 minutes, the time when "Liverpool introduced Adam, Dirk Kuyt, Stewart Downing and Jon Flanagan into the action." Think Carroll played all 90.

Doni got MOTM but had to be subbed after 57 minutes (dislocated finger)

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/match/fixture ... statistics


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 Post subject: Re: Liverpool 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
PostPosted: 19 Oct 2011, 09:40 
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murf wrote:
Liverpool played Rangers in a friendly at Ibrox last night (lost 1-0)

All the starters from the Man U game were rested from the starting XI (except Lucas who is banned for saturday - some came on as subs).

Recent injury returnees Aurelio, Agger and Johnson all started as did Carroll. Gerrard, Enrique, Kelly and Carra didn't feature at all. Reina was an unused sub.

Doni, Johnson, Wilson, Coates, Agger, Spearing, Lucas, Maxi, Aurelio, Carroll, Bellamy.
Subs: Reina, Hansen,ALAN?? Enrique, Henderson, Kuyt, Downing, Adam, Skrtel, Flanagan.

No real idea who was subbed when as I haven't seen the game except that Johnson played 66 minutes, the time when "Liverpool introduced Adam, Dirk Kuyt, Stewart Downing and Jon Flanagan into the action." Think Carroll played all 90.

Doni got MOTM but had to be subbed after 57 minutes (dislocated finger)

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/match/fixture ... statistics


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 Post subject: Re: Liverpool 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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Can any Liverpool experts explain what's up with Jose Enrique. Specifically why he didn't start the semi and G Johnson switched to play in his position. Is this a sign of things to come, I thought Kelly played very well.


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 Post subject: Re: Liverpool 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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sleuth wrote:
murf wrote:
Liverpool played Rangers in a friendly at Ibrox last night (lost 1-0)

All the starters from the Man U game were rested from the starting XI (except Lucas who is banned for saturday - some came on as subs).

Recent injury returnees Aurelio, Agger and Johnson all started as did Carroll. Gerrard, Enrique, Kelly and Carra didn't feature at all. Reina was an unused sub.

Doni, Johnson, Wilson, Coates, Agger, Spearing, Lucas, Maxi, Aurelio, Carroll, Bellamy.
Subs: Reina, Hansen,ALAN?? Enrique, Henderson, Kuyt, Downing, Adam, Skrtel, Flanagan.

No real idea who was subbed when as I haven't seen the game except that Johnson played 66 minutes, the time when "Liverpool introduced Adam, Dirk Kuyt, Stewart Downing and Jon Flanagan into the action." Think Carroll played all 90.

Doni got MOTM but had to be subbed after 57 minutes (dislocated finger)

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/match/fixture ... statistics


He said "you dont win things with (my) Kids" didnt he :?:


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Can any Liverpool experts explain what's up with Jose Enrique. Specifically why he didn't start the semi and G Johnson switched to play in his position. Is this a sign of things to come, I thought Kelly played very well.

Kelly nearly cost us the game second half :lol:

My guess on Enrique is rotation/rest. Could also have been tactical to counter pace on the wings?


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Can any Liverpool experts explain what's up with Jose Enrique. Specifically why he didn't start the semi and G Johnson switched to play in his position. Is this a sign of things to come, I thought Kelly played very well.


My view is that he put the rightfooted G.Johnson up against the leftfooted A.Johnson in order to counter the latter's bread and butter cut inside and blaze wide move.That looked to work well.
The leftfooted Enrique did come on in the second tactical masterstroke switch to 9-0-Donkey.Whilst he looked even more bemused than the rest of them and made some errors, you'd think he'd be back for the Pennant/Shotton threat.
But who knows with the increasingly erratic Kenny?


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 Post subject: Re: Liverpool 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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Not sure why he was rested but you can guarantee he'll start every league game when fit.


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 Post subject: Re: Liverpool 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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I'd not considered it was Stoke up next.

Fair chance the defence will get tweaked. Putting Carra or Kelly at FB will effectively give 3 CBs at corners. Or he could play 5 at the back.

As Enrique got his rest, maybe Johnson will today?????


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Enrique back according to Sky but Spearing doubtful.


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I noticed the Enrique thing v city

Is KK turning into Rafa? :shock:

I think Enrique has been excellent this season


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PostPosted: 14 Jan 2012, 22:27 
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Any news on why Agger didn't play?


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Any news on why Agger didn't play?


Apparently it was stated on commentary he was 'injured'. I missed that bit!

Also reported he was on the team bus so maybe it was a last minute call.


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I reckon Kenny was paying to much attention to the physical threat from Stoke and packed our defence with central defenders.
We are obviously missing the quick play of Suarez and there weren't as many chances as usual but I still reckon that if we are to progess then we have to take the one really good chance we get every game.
Kuyt yesterday, Downing and Carroll last week - chances teams lower down would put away without blinking - stating the obvious I know but it is getting frustrating and costing us points every other week.


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Bellamy deserves an interrupted 90 minute stretch of games surely.......he's looked more effective and lively than carrol, and downing all season...


what has happened to kuyt....has looked totally inept and somewhat of an embarrassment considering the standards he has played to in previous seasons....


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Bellamy deserves an interrupted 90 minute stretch of games surely.......he's looked more effective and lively than carrol, and downing all season...


what has happened to kuyt....has looked totally inept and somewhat of an embarrassment considering the standards he has played to in previous seasons....


Bellamy's knees are simply not up to it, 70-75 mins seems to be his max if he starts and he can't start twice a week.


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How's Downing getting on? :lol:

He was bordering world class at the Villa last season, amazing what a turnaround his football has taken :shock:

I see Villa have been linked with a swap move involving Bent & Carroll this morning. Not sure whether that's good or bad (for Villa of course)


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Liverpool have produced this week's Friday training photos - they usually accidentally-on-purpose show prominently anyone returning from injury.

Gerrard features heavily and Johnson is nowhere to be seen.

Read into that what you will......

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-n ... eat-pics-2

EDIT the full set from Getty also fails to pick out Johnson

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/Search/Sea ... verpoolFC#


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How's Downing getting on? :lol:

He was bordering world class at the Villa last season, amazing what a turnaround his football has taken :shock:

I see Villa have been linked with a swap move involving Bent & Carroll this morning. Not sure whether that's good or bad (for Villa of course)


Bordering on World Class !!!!! lol


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Even if Gerrard was 100% does everyone agree it is a safe bet that Adam will play 60 mins in both games?


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Even if Gerrard was 100% does everyone agree it is a safe bet that Adam will play 60 mins in both games?


No, I don't think he'll start both games. Could well be wrong though & it's not like Charlie is pulling up trees FF points wise


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Thinking about taking a -4 hit to ge thim with the thought that he will at least return 4 and there is a chance for more.


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