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 Post subject: Lindegaard + Sorensen rotation - too risky?
PostPosted: 28 Dec 2011, 01:46 
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Thinking of doing this but possibly might be better to stick in a more solid starter than Soro as Begovic is likely to get back in at some point which could leave me with no starting keeper some week.

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Wouldn't waste a Man U slot on a rarely playing keeper. Once all are fit, Jones, Evans, Nani and Rooney look v good, would not like to perm 3 from 4, let alone 2 from 4.


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PostPosted: 28 Dec 2011, 12:49 
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Thinking of doing this but possibly might be better to stick in a more solid starter than Soro as Begovic is likely to get back in at some point which could leave me with no starting keeper some week.

Thoughts?

Don't know about Sorensen, but Lindegaard is a fab idea. He's got as many chances to play as do Jones, Evans or Smalling at any given moment. He does well when he plays and personally, I think he's better than DeGea and I suspect SAF thinks so too...
I made the same suggestion about a month ago, to combine Lindegaard with Vorm and someone... ahm ahm... said back then too it is a bad idea... cost me a few points that.
I say go ahead and bring him in!


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 Post subject: Re: Lindegaard + Sorensen rotation - too risky?
PostPosted: 28 Dec 2011, 13:11 
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If Lindegaard plays as much as Evans, Smalling or Jones he's a reasonable pick over them. Ironfist is wrong though in my opinion, I think De Gea is first choice and Lindegaard is a reserve, whereas in the absence of Vidic I think all those three are first choice, though Smalling possibly sharing with Rafael.

In summary, if he proves a better bet than Jones or Evans, once injuries clear up, I'd be mightily surprised. If one of them satys injured I'd be trying to get Nani and Rooney in instead.


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 Post subject: Re: Lindegaard + Sorensen rotation - too risky?
PostPosted: 28 Dec 2011, 15:57 
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The GK situation is different than any other position on the field.

> There's no argument about Vorm and people play him anyhow in most games. Having the potential of Lindegaard who played 3 out of the last 5 games and scored 7-8 points in each of his games, is excellent. Having Vorm as an auto sub keeper is also an excellent option.

> Having either Rooney and/or Nani is also great but they are being rested too and even more so in the defence when Evans, Smalling and Jones are rested, injured or whatnot. Lindegaard has chances to play as good as any of the defenders and apparently at this tme of the year, as good chances as Rooney. If you must have 3 United players Lindegaard is as good an option at least as any of the other defenders.

> Lindegaard has one more positive aspect which is his extremely low ownership ratio. He's cheaper than all of them and got the highest ppg of all the United players. As a test to his ggp/minutes ratio you can also look at his Form which is greater than that of Smalling, Evans, Park, Gibson or Welbeck.


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 Post subject: Re: Lindegaard + Sorensen rotation - too risky?
PostPosted: 28 Dec 2011, 16:28 
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Iron fist and I do not always agree but in this case we do for sure. I also think that Lindegaard has looked more solid on the pitch and it is only a matte rof time before SAF make shim the #1.

As far as Sorenson is concerned I think he has looked more solid than Begovic and expect him to retain the role now that he is back and in form. Im picking him up this week rather than Vorm vs Tottenham even though Swansea is at home. Ill take Stoke at home to Wigan over the other choice anyday!


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I have been thinking of bringing lindguard in and picking him as my first keeper with vorm auto subbing in when he doesnt play. After de gea's performance yesterday i can see lindguard playing even more now. I will be bringing him in with wildcard next week.


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gooberman wrote:
I have been thinking of bringing lindguard in and picking him as my first keeper with vorm auto subbing in when he doesnt play. After de gea's performance yesterday i can see lindguard playing even more now. I will be bringing him in with wildcard next week.


Likewise, De Gea is in danger of ruining their season, I wouldn't be surprised to see him move to no 2 for a few weeks, Lindergaard has done nothing wrong, De Gea has cost them points.

From a fantasy perspective Lindergaard and Vorm as first sub is a clever idea, what's the worst that can happen? Vorm comes in, on top of that if you also get Evans then you have an economical way of doubling up on the United defence at a time when they will have to tighten up or lose out.

The United team can get rotated, cheap ways into it are a godsend.


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Super Hans wrote:
gooberman wrote:
I have been thinking of bringing lindguard in and picking him as my first keeper with vorm auto subbing in when he doesnt play. After de gea's performance yesterday i can see lindguard playing even more now. I will be bringing him in with wildcard next week.


Likewise, De Gea is in danger of ruining their season, I wouldn't be surprised to see him move to no 2 for a few weeks, Lindergaard has done nothing wrong, De Gea has cost them points.

From a fantasy perspective Lindergaard and Vorm as first sub is a clever idea, what's the worst that can happen? Vorm comes in, on top of that if you also get Evans then you have an economical way of doubling up on the United defence at a time when they will have to tighten up or lose out.

The United team can get rotated, cheap ways into it are a godsend.


Thing is though, most people will want Jones, + 1 attacking United player. That means you have to choose between Lindegaard and Evans. If he starts and does well at St James's I probably will go for it.


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I don't understand why people would pay extra for Jones over Evans or Smalling, they are all rotation risks and Anderson is back now so Jones may not be playing in MF like he has done.

I'm on my WC and not even considering Jones who is the same price as the nailed on Kompany.


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I have been thinking of bringing lindguard in and picking him as my first keeper with vorm auto subbing in when he doesnt play. After de gea's performance yesterday i can see lindguard playing even more now. I will be bringing him in with wildcard next week.


I mooted the same idea a few weeks back, when Schwarzer got crocked, but was persuaded to use the Swans' sub GK instead, as he was a bit cheaper. Put sub in XI, and you save any red card hits Vorm gets...........


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 Post subject: Re: Lindegaard + Sorensen rotation - too risky?
PostPosted: 04 Jan 2012, 12:55 
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I don't understand why people would pay extra for Jones over Evans


With Vidic out I think Fergie sees his strongest back 4 as Evra Jones Ferdinand Smalling/Rafael.

Jones will see more game time than Evans and for Smalling they have Rafael as cover.

Besides, it's not about how much the player costs now, it's how much you paid for him.
A lot of us have had Jones for a while so got him a lot cheaper than his current price of 6.6.

I've not ruled out opting for Evans ahead of Jones for WC, when I come to do it, but IMO Jones' position is safer than Evans and he'll play more. He'll also no doubt play RB some games so will be more of an attacking threat.

As for the OP, I'm currently looking into a Sorensen/Vorm as keepers. I've had Krul/Vorm since GW1, but as I'll probably keep Simpson, I think Sorensen is a good shout.

Having Lindegaard, who may play every now and then, takes out a valuable United player. I currently have Nani, Valencia, Jones and see them as a better 3 picks.


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 Post subject: Re: Lindegaard + Sorensen rotation - too risky?
PostPosted: 04 Jan 2012, 20:25 
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DeGea dropped for Lindegaard tonight at SJP...

5 clean sheets from 5 PL starts so far, let's see what happens tonight... Another good game, and I'm inclined to WC him in for Ruddy (who is on the verge of making me a 0.1 profit tonight or tomorrow night)...


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 Post subject: Re: Lindegaard + Sorensen rotation - too risky?
PostPosted: 04 Jan 2012, 20:38 
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Can't see a cleanie tonight


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PostPosted: 04 Jan 2012, 20:41 
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DeGea dropped for Lindegaard tonight at SJP...

5 clean sheets from 5 PL starts so far, let's see what happens tonight... Another good game, and I'm inclined to WC him in for Ruddy (who is on the verge of making me a 0.1 profit tonight or tomorrow night)...


I'm in the same exact position of wanting to replace Ruddy with Lindegaard but only have 0.4 in the bank so thought I needed to act quickly before Lindegaard's price rose. My question is how do you know that Ruddy's price is going to rise? Seems that with Norwich's inability to keep a clean sheet and lots of cheap goalkeepers suddenly coming into fpl contention that many people will be looking to ditch Ruddy. I too would like to squeeze a 0.1 profit out of Ruddy I'm just confused as to
why his price has been going up given his fpl form. :shock:


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PostPosted: 05 Jan 2012, 03:26 
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Some interesting developments on the United keeper situation.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... ds-newsxml

Sir Alex Ferguson said last week that David de Gea would play against Blackburn and Newcastle, but after the Spaniard’s horror show at the weekend, the United boss had no hesitation dropping him.
Ferguson was unusually critical of De Gea before the game.

He told Sky Sports: ‘There have been things that have happened over the past few days — you couldn’t write it. David de Gea made a couple of mistakes against Blackburn so I’m playing Anders Lindegaard.’


The line in bold is particularly strange. Does he mean De Gea has been poor in training or maybe he's reacted badly to Fergie's constructive criticism?

The plot thickens!


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 Post subject: Re: Lindegaard + Sorensen rotation - too risky?
PostPosted: 05 Jan 2012, 05:17 
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PinPointPrecision wrote:
ROCKFISHDG wrote:
DeGea dropped for Lindegaard tonight at SJP...

5 clean sheets from 5 PL starts so far, let's see what happens tonight... Another good game, and I'm inclined to WC him in for Ruddy (who is on the verge of making me a 0.1 profit tonight or tomorrow night)...


I'm in the same exact position of wanting to replace Ruddy with Lindegaard but only have 0.4 in the bank so thought I needed to act quickly before Lindegaard's price rose. My question is how do you know that Ruddy's price is going to rise? Seems that with Norwich's inability to keep a clean sheet and lots of cheap goalkeepers suddenly coming into fpl contention that many people will be looking to ditch Ruddy. I too would like to squeeze a 0.1 profit out of Ruddy I'm just confused as to
why his price has been going up given his fpl form. :shock:


Ruddy should rise to 4.2 tomorrow night/Fri early AM (depending on where you live)... He's on 99%+ to a rise according to CTC (& the other site)... If you bought him early on at 4.0, that means a profit of 0.1... Why is he rising? Because he is a good option as a backup because he's the cheapest nailed-on starting fister!

If Lindegaard gets a run as a starter, he will be the bargain at 4.4 to partner the likes of Vorm or Krul... The best thing about having him as your fist choice is keeper is that, unlike a defender, if he doesn't end up starting for Man Utd, he won't come off the bench to spoil your backup's score.


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 Post subject: Re: Lindegaard + Sorensen rotation - too risky?
PostPosted: 05 Jan 2012, 11:28 
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IMO Ruddy is a terrible choice.

Norwich haven't kept a CS even once this season and you'll get a lot more bang for your buck with 2 keepers like Vorm/Sorensen.

Each to their own, but I won't be going near. I want a keeper that at least has a chance of getting a CS.


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ROCKFISHDG wrote:
PinPointPrecision wrote:
ROCKFISHDG wrote:
Ruddy should rise to 4.2 tomorrow night/Fri early AM (depending on where you live)... He's on 99%+ to a rise according to CTC (& the other site)... If you bought him early on at 4.0, that means a profit of 0.1... Why is he rising? Because he is a good option as a backup because he's the cheapest nailed-on starting fister!

If Lindegaard gets a run as a starter, he will be the bargain at 4.4 to partner the likes of Vorm or Krul... The best thing about having him as your fist choice is keeper is that, unlike a defender, if he doesn't end up starting for Man Utd, he won't come off the bench to spoil your backup's score.


Thanks for the clarification! :mrgreen: If I'm not mistaken Ruddy still needs some NTI to jump to 4.2m. I will be keeping check of the CTC forum from now on in. :wink:


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IMO Ruddy is a terrible choice.

Norwich haven't kept a CS even once this season and you'll get a lot more bang for your buck with 2 keepers like Vorm/Sorensen.

Each to their own, but I won't be going near. I want a keeper that at least has a chance of getting a CS.

The point is that if you have no intention of playing him it doesn't matter if he keeps a clean sheet - he's on the bench. If Vorm gets injured you get a couple of 2 (maybe 4 - he's done that!) pointers until you can switch.


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hancockjr wrote:
KingCabbage wrote:
IMO Ruddy is a terrible choice.

Norwich haven't kept a CS even once this season and you'll get a lot more bang for your buck with 2 keepers like Vorm/Sorensen.

Each to their own, but I won't be going near. I want a keeper that at least has a chance of getting a CS.

The point is that if you have no intention of playing him it doesn't matter if he keeps a clean sheet - he's on the bench. If Vorm gets injured you get a couple of 2 (maybe 4 - he's done that!) pointers until you can switch.


Well yeah obviously, but if you plan to play Vorm every game, you might as well pick Swansea's sub goalkeeper at 3.9!


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Good shout actually.


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Super Hans wrote:
Good shout actually.


Are you confident owning Vorm and playing him every game vs rotating with someone such as Sorensen/Krul?

It's definitely an option. Swapping Krul for Moreira banks me an extra 0.9 and that's some serious amount to improve the rest of the team.


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I am yeah, there's not a lot of clean sheets about in his price range and he will keep the most at his price range, Sorensen is a good option but I'm trying to pack out my offensive side.

Vorm is a good shot stopper which will bulk up any lost clean sheet points.


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Certainly food for thought. Like many, I've had Vorm since GW1 so you can't get any better than a 4.0 and a 3.9 as both keepers.


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Swansea's back up keeper is 4.0 :wink:


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Thanks for the clarification! :mrgreen: If I'm not mistaken Ruddy still needs some NTI to jump to 4.2m. I will be keeping check of the CTC forum from now on in. :wink:


Ruddy finally rose & I banked my 0.1 profit I earned on him and moved on :D


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Well yeah obviously, but if you plan to play Vorm every game, you might as well pick Swansea's sub goalkeeper at 3.9!

I'm not sure there was consensus on who the sub goalie was. moreira and Tremmel both listed, Tremmel played FA cup so maybe it's him but that's new info. Who were you assuming it was?


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Only one of them is 3.9 :wink:


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Worried over Lindegaard after the FA cup game. He could have done better on the second goal and he looked shaky a few times. My plan is to have atleast one defensive player from United in my WC team, but god it's hard to predict who will play. Lindegaard and Evans are the only alternatives for me, and non of them seem certain to start.


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