Can't believe that no-one has touched on this bit of news in the last couple of days... in fact I'm surprised I can't find a single FISO thread about the James Bulger case (even if many do end up on the topic). Presumably it's been major news in the UK?



The question that keeps coming back to me is do we have a right to know what he's done? The Daily Mirror claims to know but just how trustworthy they are is open to debate.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/2010/03/04/jame ... -22083895/

Personally I think that if they go to the steps of telling us he's been recalled then they have to tell us why. The system allowed someone capable of terrible atrocities into the general public on the basis that they were certain that he was no threat. If they were wrong about that then they should acknowledge their error and apologise for putting people in danger.

Have to admit, all these years later I still think about these boys regularly. The case haunts me, but even more haunting is the fact that it could be almost anyone around me.

Depends who "they" is and what he's done. He may have simply missed an attendence or call in or breached a curfew or whatever the terms of his release are.

I think that the only reason we have been told that he has been recalled is because of a potential leak. I feel that everyone should be allowed the same levels of confidentiality as everyone else.

Lets hope someone does to him what he did to James Bulger whilst back in detention.

Whilst some people may feel that that is what he deserves I would just like to think that there is not yet another person capable of inflicting such harm on someone.

Sadly though there probably is.

Theres thousands- thats why they're locked up.

this is why, alledgedly :-

http://www.mirror.co.uk/2010/03/04/james-bulger-s-killer-jon-venables-transformed-into-cokehead-with-raging-temper-after-jail-release-115875-22083895/

Thats the same LINK Ted gave in the opening post

Shame he hasn't gone back inside purely because somebody in power realised that serving just 11 years for what he did is insane.

I agree (and apologies for the duplicate post)

I really can't see how the authorities are going to keep his identity secret now.

Feel sorry for Jamie Bulger's Mother. The killers are free to do what they want and she is still bearing the brunt. There's just no closure.

"A source last night lifted the lid on his secret life of drug addiction.
It was revealed that until last Christmas, Venables was buying one gram of cocaine a week to feed his habit"


A gram of (decent quality) coke is enough for one night of clubbing and would be the drug equivalent of having 5 pints of beer. Merry but hardly slaughtered and certainly not a)an addiction or b)any different to millions of twenty somethings in every club in every town in the UK tomorrow night.

Cocaine is illegal. End of. Sounds like he's taking the pee to me.

Cocaine is not illegal in any real sense is it? Its taken by nearly all city dwelling dudes every Saturday and Friday night all over the country. If you were caught with a gram of coke the most you'd get is a caution?

On the scale of ilegality it is pretty low down the list; probably alongside being drunk in a public place.

Yeah but he's not a normal 20 something is he? He's very luckily (imo) been given a second chance. He's been given strict rules to follow. He's broken them and that should be his chance over.

But on the basis that you had killed a little kid and everyone was appalled by the murder, you still choose to flout the law ? He's got some nerve.

It is low down the legality scale but we're not exactly talking about your everyday 20s something clubber. (Edit - just what Drog has posted)

Not sure that the 2 are linked.

If someone told me that there were people roaming the streets who had this qty of Drugs (assuming Groomy's right) then I wouldn't care really.

If someone told me that there was a half wit that as a young boy managed to cimmit the crime that he did, I would be far more concerned - especially if had hadn't been rehabilitated - which I believe is the point of incarceration. If it isn't why wouldn't you just fry the little bustards

whilst i may not view things in quite such a draconian manner (as dot) i do feel that our society is totally wrong in the way it defends and covers up for offenders to the detriment of those offended against.

this is one of the many reasons i will be voting conservative for the very first time in the next election.

the system protects liars cheats and bullies and criminals (and thats just members of the house of parliament!) to the detriment of law abiding citizens.

we need a change so badly but being a nation of bottlers is a worry!

andy

Rehabilition is a joke for offences like this. They should have been held behind bars indefintely. What about Bulgers parents ? They are the victims.

If i were the parents of Jamie i'd be doing all i could to track them down and kill them.

Slowly ........................ with rocks.

Can a ten year old be rehabilitated? I think so, yes. So i'm i little confused about the case!!!!

But taking a gram of coke is one wrap and is about £50 worth. Its a night out. All over the UK. Your boss probably does it.

Why does no-one point the finger at their parents? They were 10 and did horrific things, they could not have made it up. ( I lived in Liverpool at the time, and on the basis that what I was told was not the subject of chinese whispers, then it was v v bad.)

See, that's how all parents would feel. At ten you would know right from wrong. All the physcometric tests done said that Venables was the one led by Thompson...maybe not. It's a crime so heinous they shouldn't have been let out.

As for my bosses taking coke, hardly likely I thought we were all out binge drinking... now we're all coke heads. Whilst I know people do it, I don't think it's common place.

Given the extreme nature of the crime, not to mention the conditions of their release, the chances of these savage murderers being anything other than walking time-bombs in the community must be, at best, minimal.

Here in NZ, a 12 year old who murdered a Pizza delivery boy was released at the age of 18 (without name suppression) and - of course - is back behind bars for breaching the relevant conditions (his latest 'stunt' was to masturbate in front of 2 women and then assault them).

Regardless of their age, attempting to rehabilitate these evil monsters is a complete and utter waste of tax-payers money. Unfortunately, unless you believe in capital punishment, the only solution is to keep them behind bars and away from everyone else, and at least afford their victims' families the knowledge that they will never be seen in public again.

You have a point BlahBlah. The recent case where the two lads tortured and forced the other two lads to do horrific things, their parents smoked weed all day and they watched violence and porn. So in some way the parents should be held accountable. They should be newtered for a start.

Well put and I agree.

I do believe in capital punishment but I accept that in some cases the death penalty is not an option (i.e. under 16's).

Its common place

Prove it

As such it was not just their fault......

But isn't the (liberal) point here is that you're not the parents and that whilst you can understand their anger it doesn't necessarily translate into your own view about punishment.

I know I will be in a minority of one here in saying that the criminal intent of a 10 year old - however heinous the crime - is qualitatively different from that of an adult and the punishment should be proportionate to that criminal capacity.

Yep, and is supposed to make us civilised.