Which Prosser I hear you ask

John? overall league 3rd/12th
Dean? overall league 17th/53rd/58th/70th - league of chairmen 5th x 5/19th
Lilbeth? overall league 29th/35th/80th/90th - goldenboot 1st/3rd - league of chairmen 26th
Karen? overall league 78th
LucieVictoria? overall league 88th
Mr Prosser? league of superleagues 1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th/13th/65th

From the terms

2. How to enter
Those wishing to participate in the MailOnline Fantasy Football Gamemay only register on the MailOnline Fantasy Football Game Site, which will allow up to 5 teams to be created and managed. Participants found to have registered more than five teams may be removed from the MailOnline Game, disqualified and not be eligible to win prizes. If you do not provide your real name when registering, you may not be able to claim any prize for which you otherwise would be eligible. Entries must not be submitted by agents or third parties and such entries will be deemed void.

23. Complaints
MailOnline is willing to investigate any complaints to ensure that its high standards are maintained. However, its decision is final and it will not be obliged to enter into any correspondence regarding the MailOnline Game.

does Mr Prosser have anything to say on the matter??

Hey Chuck I mentioned this a couple of months back in an earlier thread. Of course its a blatant bending of the rules using aunts, cousins, sisters, wives, ex wives, mothers names etc etc etc..... BUT not quite sure how the Daily Mail will be able to prove he is cheating as technically they are different people being registered. Hence, Aunt Lilbeth and Karen do exist and both have a firm interest in fantasy football as do the entire Prosser family

Makes me think you are edging somewhere close to the top of the leaderboard if you are considering a potential complaint to the Daily Mail.

I have no idea if he is a Fisoer. Would be great to find out one way or the other.

Also I do find the multiple surname cheats such as Prosser a little insulting because if you are going to cheat, at least use surnames from a multitude of different friends so its not painfully obvious to everyone playing the game that you are indeed cheating.

my research suggests he isn't, checked the fiso superleagues for the mail, tff, the sun and fpl and he's nowhere to be seen, 2 are pay to play games though so why spend his own money if he can cheat his way to thousands?

i'm around 100th and 400th but don't think I have a chance of winning, its just when you have a team inside the top hundred you'll scan the top 100 leaderboard and be more aware of the names in it and therefore notice this

I expect the Mail to ask Auntie Lilbeth in her goldenboot teams winning interview what made her pick Andy Carroll from the start, when she answers 'he's Chelsea Uniteds best player' Mr Prosser will be rumbled

when I do complain (which I will if any of his teams/mini leagues do win any prize) I will suggest a private conversation with the winner and the thoughts and motivations behind the players selected and transfers made. Surely the Mail would have an ounce of intellect to do something like that.

The only way to stop this is to charge a nominal fee, say a pound and make the teams allowed unlimited.
At least this way someone has to pay rather than invite everybody and his wife to play under your guidance and profit.
I would certainly put my name to any complaint should would of these cheats win.

good to hear t.gridley, if an expected multi wins then I am happy to put together a complaint letter and anyone wishing to have a copy, put their name on my complaint or write their own then all the better, have changed the name of this thread, we need FISO to come together to get rid of multis and blatent cheats in this competition

They could make it five entries per household. Then if people enter under relatives' names they can (probably) tell if the transfers came from different locations or not

Or just 5 entries per IP Address - that way if Mr Prosser is making transfer for himself, his aunties, uncle,pet dog etc it will all be traced back to one IP address.

The only way around this would be for him to use his Auntie PC, drive over to his sister's, then his mother in law all before kick off

I won't be beating them. I can't even keep up with rotating my subs in 5 teams, keep on forgetting. Wish the Mail could introduce a system that if all 11 aren't playing that the subs inclusion is just automatic.

why the complete change of post johnmc? I read what you had originally written before editting the post above, care to enlighten us?

No

Are you Mr Prosser?
Do you have an 82 year old father?
Do your family support Chelsea?
Are Dean, Lilbeth etc related to you?

after reading your original post you've given me enough ammo to report it to the Mail so come clean and tell me and others what your orignal post meant and to why you changed it from claiming you were Mr Prosser to now that you'll never catch the Prosser family, stange don't you think?

I am most definately not a member of the Prosser family. You certainly read too much into innocent posts. At which point did I claim to be Mr. Prosser.

read too much into it? I know what you wrote and what I read. I'll be dealing with this matter privately from now on

Yes my Dad is 82 years old. Yes we are Chelsea supporters. I was initially just simply trying to show you that there are others of us with families interested in football. Yet, I decided that after consideration, I didn't want to get involved in mud slinging.
Guess what though your now even accusing me of being someone that I'm not!

am I correct in saying you are infact John Mcaree? and were defending the Prosser family as you do a very similar thing in having members of your family entering teams?

Your original post sugested you were a member of the Prosser clan, I apologise for this assumption but your original posts content and then it disappearing completely only fueled my assumptions

Mr Prosser is a multi, thats a fact

Correct Chuck, I'm John McAree.

There's actually 3 of us (my family) that have participated in the Mail this season. Your correct though many more play in the Telegraph and Sun comps.

I apologise then, I hope you can accept that considering the content of your original post was similar to the Prossers family ie father, son, wife etc, that you were defending multi family members participating and the speed it disappeared as if you had second thoughts about identifying yourself (from my point of view as Mr Prosser) and you are a John like Mr Prosser.

Checking out the leaderboards including the Chelsea one you and your family show the signs of a family participating which is no level of high placed consistency throughout the entire family, thats realistic, Mr Prossers family is beyond realistic so whether you want to defend him or not I stand by my accusation towards him that he is indeed a multi teamer braking the rules using his family members as extra teams.

Apology accepted Chuck. Good luck in ff, Pal.

Chuck, you accused johnmc of being Mr Prosser because he also had a father and a wife

Only playing, glad you got it sorted amicably. I assume the mail is a free comp that doesn't allow multi's.

Always an almost impossible one to manage

Mr Prosser tops the table. Anyone been keeping an eye on his scores to guess how many player and captain changes he's burning to get there?

The fact he started strong in the first half and faded at the end of that half and now his teams have all jumped up the top 100 again when the new transfers came onto play would suggest he's a bit of a tinkerer, I would assume all his teams will fall away again by late April so don't let them panic you into keeping pace with him, for all we know Prosser and Allen could be the same fella with Allen using the Prosser clan as pacesetters enticing the opposition to panic use transfers alllowing the Allen teams to run away with it, extreme conspriacy I know but a clever one

The way his top team leaped 30 odd points after yesterdays games would suggest 2/3/4 Liverpool/Brum players, Liverpool are out of the cup and Brum are shit so good luck with that plan Prosser

Enjoyed seeing lilbeth overtaken in the Goldenboot league too

wow that is some conspiracy theory chuck lol.

But for Prosser to have taken over one of Allen's teams makes things interesting. Prosser I agree will fade like he did in December and I will put my wager on it, that not one his teams finishes in the top 5. But by him getting into top spot we can but hope that this maybe puts a bit of pressure onto Mr Allen and forces him to perhaps make some moves he perhaps overwise wouldn't have made.

Its a long way to go and i still think it will be one heck of an achievement if any team finishes ahaed of Mr Allen when all is said and done.

There are 27 teams for Mr Gaylor in the top 100 for the week this week. He's also got a few in the top 100 for the month - at least one which isn't in the 27 weeklys. I don't like to snitch, but this just ruins it for the rest of us who abide by the rules - which clearly state no more than 5 else disqualification. Anyone know if the mail have been active in monitoring and administering this? It would clear the waters for monthly efforts if these people were dealt with real-time, rather than at end of season as it could completely alter strategy as the month comes to an end.

2 Prossers in the top 100, with another member of the family (we really need to check the census) Pamela.

Have taken an interest in the mini league table as the deadline for creating or joining one is getting closer, these are the top 5 mini leagues

1 Miss Prosser leave arsene alone 757.60
2 Miss Prosser rooneys frollicles 745.40
3 Mr Prosser keep the faith 732.20
4 Mr Prosser nightingales 247 700.80
5 Mr Prosser cescalators 699.40

The highest Prosser in the main league is Karen Prosser on 762 points, there are nowhere near enough Prossers on the leaderboard to churn out those averages.
They are either in partnerships with other people or they're not just signing in as Prossers.

Here is the Top 20 of the individual table

1 Aleksandra Rusanova A4 814
2 Linda Harvey linda5 784
3 John Spowart dixie normous 770
4 Matt Rust matts gloss 5 768
4 Steven Gillies steves grafters 1 768
6 Steve Rusty rustys boys 766
7 Rob Ellis Manuel Carlos 764
8 Paul Prior Lufc 2 762
8 Karen Prosser nightingales247 762
10 Ian Cooper Goshen FC5 760
11 LucieVictoria Prosser dream on 4 753
11 Chris Williams CWI August 753
13 Steven Gillies steves grafters 2 750
14 Sean Puttnam team dickens 742
15 Patricia Burgess GIVEN TAKE 741
16 James Gibney EuroChamps 82 739
16 Peter Hilton OSaturday 739
16 Neil Thornton lofty heights 4 739
19 Chris Williams Silva Lining 738
20 Simon Purrington Benatoms Bangers 737
20 Steven Rust onion baggers 737

I've got to say, there's a bad smell coming from this game
In fact the best 5 Prosser teams comes up with an average of 739 points

Is standing by ready with calming words, drugs and a punchbag for chuck.

(I noticed this too EM - same ol same ol I'm afraid, chuck wrote the organizers last year and didn't get much of a response TBH)

In your opinion is this any different to what happens in the sun?

He's always top at this time of year as he's burnt the majority of transfers getting there, keep calm people as he's a shit fantasy manager proven massively last season, more reason to get the FISO leagues spot on with transfers left etc to show him what class is

I demand to know who you are and what you've done with chuck