Just out of interest does anyone know how many times Liverpool have hit the bar/post this season.

Andy Carroll hitting the bar on Friday continued the trend, maybe they are going for the record.

They've hit the woodwork more than any other team. I heard 16 mentioned a few games ago.

Better to hit the woodwork than to miss by miles.

Hitting the woodwork is one of the best parts of watching a football match. Everybody knows it was very close, the adrenaline rush for both sets of supporters and the pain or joy that follows. That's entertainment!

Pure entertainment - I always say that for my Liverpool season ticket I recieve more entertainment pound per pound for it than any other season ticket in the country

Believe its 19 after Carroll smacked it against Newcastle.

19 bar/post hits in 19 matches. Not Bad.

I don't believe Liverpool hit the bar during last nights match but I am sure they hit the bar after to drown their sorrows. BOOM BOOM!

So whats the figure with one game to go?

Was that 3 times they hit the bar/post last night?

Downing Penalty - Post
Was that Carroll hitting the bar from the angle.
Downing hit the bar from distance.

Downing on his own must have hit the bar/post a fair few times this season.

I wouldn't be surprised if Downing has hit the woodwork on his own more often than some teams this season.

RVP has to be a contender for the most individual efforts..

Like has been said earlier I heard that Liverpool had hit woodwork more times than any other team this season...but also that it's Suarez as a player who has hit the woodwork most often

It reached the 30s a few games ago I think, probably mid 30s now

Think Suarez has about half of them

What are their OPTA stats for shots on target?

That will tell you more reliably how lucky/unlcuky they have been n'est pas?

a shot that hits the bar or post is usually classified as off target so dont think that will help

Thats what i mean

Liverpool have hit the woodwork a lot and this is used to suggest they have been very unlucky

But looking at shots on target over a season is a better way (albeit not perfect) to assess how dominant a side has been

I was always under the impression that a shot that hits the woodwork is classed as on target???

And Downing set most of them up

I read somewhere it is 33 times. If they at least scored 50% of them I wonder where they could have got in the table

It doesn't but I think its harsh?

33 was before last night - 35 or 36 now (Downing adding 2 more to his tally)

Penalty conversion rate is dreadful too 4 from 12 for the season

Well ironically even though I was under the impression that it counted as being on target (and spoke about this with mates at work who were all under same impression) I dont think it should be lol

http://www.eplindex.com/14339/the-root- ... stats.html

This one (below) is from February but seems to make some good points - whilst seemingly being completely at odds with hitting the woodwork as often as we have.

http://www.eplindex.com/9715/liverpool- ... eview.html

Sky Sports used to class them as on target (no idea if that's still the case), which is complete ludicrously as if it was on target and there was nothing to deflect the travel of the ball off target then surely it'd be a goal!?

Post & bar should be off target.

Sky Sports - think maybe thats where I have got it from then

Indeed, for no other reason that a shot which hits the bar and bounces out is, by definition, off target

At one stage last night Liverpool had had 3 'shots on target' accortding to Sky and scored 3 goals. I think they had hit the woodwork at least once by then but not sure if Suarez' (planned IMO) 'in off' Essien for the first goal counts as a shot on target.....

(It is lunacy to count as shot as on target if it hits the woodwork - unless it bounces in)

Pretty sure Sky Sports dont count it as on target. They certianly didnt used to anyway. For what its worth bar/post shouldnt be counted anyway as on target.

They 100% definitely used to, am probably going back to around 2004/05 era, but it was counted back then.

The target is between the woodwork! Anything else is a miss.