http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15385955

At least it will keep Dale Farm off the news....

Possibly dead depending which report you believe

Picture looks more like Mickey Rourke after a night out to me - or maybe that bloke who played for Wimbledon whose name (obviously) escapes me

whoever it is in that picture doesn't look very happy to me

Since when has Frank from Shamless been mistaken for Gaddafi?

Mick Harford?

He looks dead from the videos i've seen. Unless he was playing dead, and that wasn't his blood.

I suppose we need to wait until he is marked up as injured or dead on the FPL site to be sure. Question is, do I transfer him out now or wait until closer to the deadline. His value is sure to plummet.

I've still got Bramble, and if I won't take a 4 pt hit to get rid of him, then Gaddafi can wait.

It just seems to be something else to fill the void of 24hr news. Does anyone here care? Does anyone know how much we spent bombing Libya?

Will Libya win the ACN?

How big was Gadaffi?

From BBC

At some checkpoints, security officials are handing out what have been dubbed "revolutionary mints".

An NTC fighter told the BBC he found Col Gaddafi hiding in a hole

UN Should Apologize For “Legitimizing” Gaddafi with Key Posts

I wonder how long will Chavez (and our own Pouzar) grieve the passing of Gaddafi.

Does anyone find it distasteful that we glorify in the death of a man due to this 'Arab Spring'? He was dragged out of a drainpipe, beaten up and summarily executed and the our leaders brag how this is a day to celebrate democracy.

He was a dictator and carried out many atrocities to keep himself and his party in power. But is the alternative any better. Will the rag tag new rulers be worse? Not only in Libya but also in other 'liberated' countries?

I think we're being very naive to be honest.

I agree sted, we should be above that. Yes he was probably soap. We shouldn't glorify it, we should be sad for what a life did.

I'm not so much angry at Gadaffi's demise, but I'm angry about the way it came about. NATO intervened on behalf of the rebels to make it such a one sided fight that there cold only ever be one outcome, it's bullying of the highest order in my opinion.

Imagine being involved in a fight outside a Nightclub and just when you have the upper hand the Bouncers take the other guys side and start to give you a kicking. When the Police eventually turn up they join forces with the Bouncers to kick the sh*t out of you. The Chief of Police then comes on the telly and says "this is a great day for Nightclub Land" !! I hate bullies, especially NATO bullies.

One thing always baffled me about this whole affair. NATO say they had a mandate to enter the fray to "protect the civilian population", so why was it that when the rebels were firing off missiles and rockets indiscriminately into some of the towns and cities without any idea where they would land they were not attacked by NATO for "endangering the lives of the civilian population"

I think the whole Lybia war stinks. Shouldn't have taken sides or been involved. Its a peoples uprising, and like romania should be left to the people.
From John Pilger:


Guess that's global capitalism...

And to think we bank-rolled him etc...........

The whole thing stinks. My lasting memory will be Hague advocating an electoral System which produced a Strong, but not Democratic Government and then justifying bombing the shite out of Libya for not having a Democratic Government.

I doubt that the next lot of leaders in Egypt, Libya etc will toe the Western line.

It's almost like the Sun haven't learnt from headlines like "Gotcha!". It's good that this should be the end of the war but this is all very similar to the Saddam thing and as mentioned above seems grotesque.

The West vilified him but as soon as he made overtures they seemingly gave him blow jobs on demand and bent over to let him take them up the arse. All for access to Libya's oil. As soon as they saw a chance to overthrow him they jumped in and will no doubt offer the same blow job an sex deal to the new regime. Al in the name of oil. Western leaders are no different to Gadaffi but pretend they have morals.

To be fair it was Tony Blair biting the pillow, closing his eyes and (not) thinking of Lockerbie. It wasn't until he was overthrown and Cameron took over that we started re-sticking the knife in.... admittedly whilst getting out the KY for the new guys.

Just like how Saddam was our ally one day and then enemy the next.

Its all pathetic and nothing to glory in.

Wasn't Lockerbie down to Iran? (This is why they are playing up the Embassy Siege and supplying the IRA.)

Maybe we shouldn't be in glory at his death, but the people of Libya sure looked happy to me, which, at the end of day, is what matters.

Blair, Brown, Cameron
Bush, Obama
Gadaffi, Saddam
All are corrupt and no difference in any of them

I guess this is the issue. Which people of Libya are the ones shooting into the sky (I was wondering the other day if anyone has been injured due to this...)? The rebels? The ex-Gadaffites? The ex-pats who helped sponsor the rebels? Members of the myriad tribes in the country? The ones giving oil and restructuring rights to western companies as payment for support?

Once the dust settles it's not hard to imagine things getting a little angsty as the various parties struggle for power.

No, it's not just those 'evil', 'fickle' leaders of the western powers... it's the little people of the west thinking that any of the Arab regimes (Iraq, Iran, Syria, current Egypt {under Col.Tantawi}, Lebanon) are better than Gadaffi, and projecting their opinions through the pathetic UN.



The "Arab Spring" is at best a change of guard at the top and no new democracies will emerge from any 'revolutions' or new leaderships. Ask the people in the Cairo streets and they'll tell you.

you really believe that?

Ironfist...............every politician and every leader on Earth since the dawn of time is and has been corrupt. There has never been and never will be an honest politician. If they say they are in politics to change people's lives then you can call them a liar to their face.
Every single one is in it to line their own pockets regardless of religion, sex, race or political belief.

I agree with you, if you mean that at best it will be the same from different faces, and at worst more instability in the region, and an increase in anti-Western Governments.

No-one seems to be commenting on the rising of the bar of "War" with the killing of bin Laden and Gaddafi, making Heads of State legitimate targets?

A tad harsh, but as a sweeping generalisation more accurate than all Western Leaders are good guys...

I have never seen, read about or heard about an honest politician. They are about as rare as fairies at the bottom of the garden.

Yes very rare, but if you look hard enough the night after a full moon, and when the wing is the the west..........