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 Post subject: Free teams from multi entrants that have won prizes
PostPosted: 19 Oct 2011, 10:25 
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Inspired by "AdamColesGate" :) I've done some checking on the top 100 WDT prize winning positions over 7 weeks. What I was looking for was entrants in the top 100 who are not premium entrants, whose name appears more than once in the total list of free entrants.

I am able to tell who is a free or a premium entrant by the fact that 6 sequential ids in the overall list with the same player name, indicate a premium entrant

A name appearing in the top 100 who is a free entrant but whose name appears more than once in the overall list would indicate either

a) a coincidence, a common name
b) someone who had entered more than 1 free team

The difficulty is obvisouly deciding between the two, but there seem to be some clues

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Week 1 andy ford was in 62 position, there are 10 andy fords in the competition, it's a fairly common name, so probably ok, likewise James Reid in 81st position in week1. Common name so 24 teams for that name is not unreasonable

However in 21st place is paul egerton, this name has 8 free teams, not a very common name, also within the list of teams for that name is "4th team" . Not conclusive but maybe an indicator of a multi free teamer

Then in 98th place is Joe Cordwell, again not a very common name, he has 6 teams, 4 of which were entered in fairly quick succession, ids 66180,
66507, 66638 and 66939, again not conclusive proof but suspicious

This took me a few minutes to investigate, without any of the benefit of details about the emails used to enter accounts, ip addresses, time of WDT entry etc. You would expect the sun to have this information and yet are they checking?


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 Post subject: Re: Free teams from multi entrants that have won prizes
PostPosted: 19 Oct 2011, 11:08 
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Basically, if you have finsihed (legitimately) outside the top 100, you may have a just claim for a prize, from a spot check there are examples of it each and every week

Similarly the September monthly prizes, is it a coincidence that Jonathan Evans finished 31st and 32nd place with two (very similar) free teams


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 Post subject: Re: Free teams from multi entrants that have won prizes
PostPosted: 20 Oct 2011, 17:18 
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Dreamteam must hate you JP, personally I think you are OK :D


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 Post subject: Re: Free teams from multi entrants that have won prizes
PostPosted: 20 Oct 2011, 17:20 
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I'm suprised no one has commented on this thread as I think its quite an important point...

this adam coles lad has entered we suspect 96 teams using numerous email accounts meaning he has 96 teams in a competition where the maximum you could have from the start was 61, and more importantly hasn't paid a penny for them and has totally abused the system.

the lad must be a numpty as he has used the same team name in most of the teams

so have the sun updated the table for this weekend and removed his 5 teams in the top 100? has all his accounts been deactivated?

so everyone is happy that this lad has 5 teams in the top 100?


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 Post subject: Re: Free teams from multi entrants that have won prizes
PostPosted: 20 Oct 2011, 20:53 
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ronny10 wrote:
Dreamteam must hate you JP, personally I think you are OK :D


I think they do hate me, all my teams are doing shit this year :D

As regards the lack of interest in this, I guess it's just yet another gripe at the running of the game, and as such it's not much of a surprise


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 Post subject: Re: Free teams from multi entrants that have won prizes
PostPosted: 20 Oct 2011, 22:05 
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It's a really good post. It's just says everything that no one can really argue with. Hopefully they'll look into it and get things right by Christmas!


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 Post subject: Re: Free teams from multi entrants that have won prizes
PostPosted: 21 Oct 2011, 00:11 
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jpk wrote:
As regards the lack of interest in this, I guess it's just yet another gripe at the running of the game, and as such it's not much of a surprise


i don't theres a lack of interest, as chrismar points out there's nothing more that can be added to it really, is it any different to entering teams under other peoples names other than being really blatant? cheatings, cheating! & that always gets tumbleweed on here too.

must take him ages to do it :lol:, wonder if he's purchased an redundant automator from hong kong


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 Post subject: Re: Free teams from multi entrants that have won prizes
PostPosted: 21 Oct 2011, 07:24 
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yes, it could just be that what I'm pointing out is not only obvious , but also accepted by the FISO community, that it is ok to bend the rules so to criticize would just be hypocrisy.

I am no saint, I automate my WDTs every week :)


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 Post subject: Re: Free teams from multi entrants that have won prizes
PostPosted: 21 Oct 2011, 07:51 
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chrismar wrote:
It's a really good post. It's just says everything that no one can really argue with. Hopefully they'll look into it and get things right by Christmas!



Hopefully someone will receive a winning cheque before then too.


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 Post subject: Re: Free teams from multi entrants that have won prizes
PostPosted: 29 Oct 2011, 14:38 
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players removed from winners lists...

player WDT
Rob Green 1
paul egerton 1
Joe Cordwell 1

Liam Butler 2
ibby kag 2

Neil Hayden 3
stuart harlow 3

luke busbridge 4
Paul McCann 4

Darren Murphy 5

Ross Giles 6
Alan Hull 6

Adam Coles 7
Adam Coles 7
Adam Coles 7

stephen goodwin 8
Craig Pearson 8
Dominic Bell 8
David Hale 8
martin streener 8
Andrew Copland 8
Craig Sharp 8
Laura Craner 8
Derek Gallagher 8
alan bebbington 8

plus
Jenna Shape Sep Monthly
Lee Bailey Sep Monthly

Still some more to go IMO....


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