FISODAS Season 17 Week 1 Player List & Fixtures

Surprised · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2011, 19:14

I think Jeffers in League 2 should have 3 points for winning.

Smurphy's Paw · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17 2006 **Posts:** 819

Surprised wrote:

I think Jeffers in League 2 should have 3 points for winning.

He was a no-show but Barry picked a decent team of randoms so TDB also lost

Surprised · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2011, 19:32

Smurphy's Paw wrote:

Surprised wrote:

I think Jeffers in League 2 should have 3 points for winning.

He was a no-show but Barry picked a decent team of randoms so TDB also lost

I saw the lineups now :oops:

Thanks for setting me right.
I though I'd found a barry mistake but they don't happen.

Hotpot · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2011, 19:54

barry wrote:

Tables.

Code:

Premiership

                    P       W       D       L       F       A       GD      PTS
Hotpot              9       9       0       0       45       1       44       27
Digsby              2       1       0       1       6       5       1       3
DrBunker            2       1       0       1       7       8       -1       3
El_Pappje           2       1       0       1       6       7       -1       3
Malrom              2       1       0       1       5       7       -2       3
Zipnolan            1       0       0       1       1       5       -4      0
The ledge           2       0       0       2       2       10       -8      0
Primitive Man       2       0       0       2       3       12       -9      0
Nathan247           2       0       0       2       2       11       -9      0
Razorback           2       0       0       2       0       11       -11      0

please let me know if you spot any errors!

All looks OK to me, keep up the good work Barry!

barry · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2011, 20:04

Surprised wrote:

Smurphy's Paw wrote:

Surprised wrote:

I think Jeffers in League 2 should have 3 points for winning.

He was a no-show but Barry picked a decent team of randoms so TDB also lost

I saw the lineups now :oops:

Thanks for setting me right.
I though I'd found a barry mistake but they don't happen.

oh they do!!!

and remember the bazza's randoms are just that!

Jester · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2011, 20:39

This is one I could never decide on in my day, but now directly affected it seems more pressing..... :oops:

A no-show gets no points but a random line-up is provided to get a result for his opponent.
Should the no-show get any goals for/against either - it could make all the difference at the end of the season?

Just thinking and not trying to be mean.... :twisted:

Spinynorman · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2011, 21:04

So the first ever time I get a no show and I get thrashed 5-0. :roll:

I hope everyone else turns up. :mrgreen:

barry · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2011, 21:25

Jester wrote:

This is one I could never decide on in my day, but now directly affected it seems more pressing..... :oops:

A no-show gets no points but a random line-up is provided to get a result for his opponent.
Should the no-show get any goals for/against either - it could make all the difference at the end of the season?

Just thinking and not trying to be mean.... :twisted:

would this question be raised had the no shows got beat 3-0?

it just so happens bazza's randoms were good this week - probably the first time it's happened!

remember, we went this route to prevent the 10-0 thrashings the previous idea could possibly throw up....

feel free to discuss though!

the dude abides · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2011, 21:36

The new boys in the conference done ok . Good close game .

Jester · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2011, 21:56

barry wrote:

Jester wrote:

This is one I could never decide on in my day, but now directly affected it seems more pressing..... :oops:

A no-show gets no points but a random line-up is provided to get a result for his opponent.
Should the no-show get any goals for/against either - it could make all the difference at the end of the season?

Just thinking and not trying to be mean.... :twisted:

would this question be raised had the no shows got beat 3-0?

it just so happens bazza's randoms were good this week - probably the first time it's happened!

remember, we went this route to prevent the 10-0 thrashings the previous idea could possibly throw up....

feel free to discuss though!

I get that it's a good way of determining the opponent's score, but don't get that the no show should get any goals for - or goals against for the same reason.

Their score should be a flat no points, zero goals imo.

If a player loses out on promotion on goal's scored in a no-show week I think he would be justifiably annoyed.

The 10-0 thing is irrelavent - your random team is great, keep that - just don't give the no-show any goals (+ or -) for a game he didn't show up for.
Thinking more about it now though, if the no-show lost 10-0, he would benefit under my proposal by not getting the ten goals registered against him....

Oh, and yes - I hope it would! :wink:

Richt · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2011, 22:01

imo, no show teams shouldn't be given points or have their goal difference effected in a positive manner. If anything, points should be deducted. (unless they have pre-warned the Barry or any organiser at the time).

Spencer4 · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2011, 22:04

No show teams should just earn a star that counts against them in any cases where the goal difference might matter.

For example, if, at season end they are tied on points with a.n. other, they would be behind them regardless (unless this other team also had a star hanging over them).

Jester · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2011, 22:08

Spencer4 wrote:

No show teams should just earn a star that counts against them in any cases where the goal difference might matter.

For example, if, at season end they are tied on points with a.n. other, they would be behind them regardless (unless this other team also had a star hanging over them).

Richt wrote:

imo, no show teams shouldn't be given points or have their goal difference effected in a positive manner. If anything, points should be deducted. (unless they have pre-warned the Barry or any organiser at the time).

I'm not sure about either of these, as no-shows are penalised already if they miss more than two games. Perhaps further punishment would be too much?
They would act as incentives not to no-show though wouldn't they?

barry · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2011, 22:09

Jester wrote:

Thinking more about it now though, if the no-show lost 10-0, he would benefit under my proposal by not getting the ten goals registered against him....

Spencer and unc.si wishing they had no-showed now :wink:

needs further discussion I think but regardless, no changes will be made mid season, folk have got 9 games to build their own goal difference without wondering what could have happened due to a no show :wink:

(now that you've brought it up, I bet this comes back to bite me right in the arse at the end of the season :lol:

)

Malrom · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2011, 22:31

Hotpot wrote:

barry wrote:

Tables.

Code:

Premiership

                    P       W       D       L       F       A       GD      PTS
Hotpot              9       8       0       1       38       9       29       24
Digsby              2       1       0       1       6       5       1       3
DrBunker            2       1       0       1       7       8       -1       3
El_Pappje           2       1       0       1       6       7       -1       3
Malrom              2       1       0       1       5       7       -2       3
Zipnolan            1       0       0       1       1       5       -4      0
The ledge           2       0       0       2       2       10       -8      0
Primitive Man       2       0       0       2       3       12       -9      0
Nathan247           2       0       0       2       2       11       -9      0
Razorback           2       0       0       2       0       11       -11      0

please let me know if you spot any errors!

All looks OK to me, keep up the good work Barry!

Yes, well done. Barry! Keep it up!

el_pappje · **Posted:** 24 Jan 2011, 00:38

I reckon I've missed 1 FISODAS gameweek out of 163 so far. I think the asterisk idea sounds a good one that could be developed; otherwise the only justifiable alteration to the current rules is that a missed week means a true forfeit and the opponent gets 3 points. Most other angles have 2 sides to the arguments and will inevitably leave someone a bit cheesed off.

Mind you, not as cheesed off as being 2nd in the table in week 1 after a good win and facing an opponent with immunity the next week (especially when said opponent is one of the all-time FISODAS legends!).....

Malrom · **Posted:** 24 Jan 2011, 22:22

Barry, did you check predictions?
I'm too lazy... ;-)

Malrom · **Posted:** 24 Jan 2011, 22:25

el_pappje wrote:

I reckon I've missed 1 FISODAS gameweek out of 163 so far. I think the asterisk idea sounds a good one that could be developed; otherwise the only justifiable alteration to the current rules is that a missed week means a true forfeit and the opponent gets 3 points. Most other angles have 2 sides to the arguments and will inevitably leave someone a bit cheesed off.

Mind you, not as cheesed off as being 2nd in the table in week 1 after a good win and facing an opponent with immunity the next week (especially when said opponent is one of the all-time FISODAS legends!).....

You are playing zipnolan, not Digsby or hotpot ...
Which does of course not mean that zipnolan is not a FISODAS legend :!:

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