The CIMB Asia Pacific Classic is an event to be held in Malaysia and is expected to feature many of the top PGA Tour players in a select field of 40 (with no cut).

In either case, this must be decided by the start of the Tour Championship (as this may have an impact on transfer strategy)...

I voted no.

It would be easily to get caught up in the detail of sanctioned/co-sponsored/official money list events (HSBC still isn't official money list ).

But I think it is too narrow really. Chances are that the "top 25 available Fedex Cup players" will be an attempt to bait some of those in the HSBC to come a week early for megabucks. But, in practice, you could have 25 top-notch PGA Tour guys competing against 15 worthy but not world-class locals. So the place points could well be dominated by the PGA members and a 62.5% chance of scoring them without any real merit to get there seems wrong to me.

i voted no, simply on fact i dont like these events that get added last minute

Ditto

It's logical to assume that fantasy players have based their transfer strategy around the tournaments listed (including the JBWere Masters ), so adding another one at this stage is moving the goalposts, and should therefore be avoided.

Yes vote. Realize Mr G has a difficult decision to make.

But the proposed tournament in Malaysia would make more interesting viewing than the Andalucia Masters in Spain that week. Besides the '25 available Fedex players' it is possible the 15 others invited are top class European and World golfers - and maybe even Tiger - who are also heading to south east Asia for the WGC HSBC Champions event a week later.

And it would be set in a lovely region...

So far we have confirmed:

Singapore'S Mardan Mamat
and
Malaysia's Mohd Shaaban Hussin

Make of that what you will.

Firstly, thanks Mr G for asking for our opinions.

I voted No but for different reasons. As previously mentioned it's not listed on the OFL site so adding it now would be a little like changing the rules halfway through the competition.

It's a shame you didn't have TBC at the date on the events page as that particular week was always vacant and it's going to be similar to this week with just the Austrian Open taking place.

Big yes from me.

The more tournaments the more chance I have of catching up the leaders

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Yes from me, why not?

Pointless having players in your teams who are playing but their performances not counting.

This is an utter nonsense.

In my opinion everybody knew from the beginning which tournaments counted from the 'Tournament Listing' part of the OFL website. Indeed you even warned us from the beginning that there was a possibility of the JBWere Masters being added. There was NO mention of this Malaysia tournament at all.

All this is doing is rewarding managers who have used too many transfers too early on and punishing those who have been sensible.

(of course my team currently standing at 43rd in the standings with more transfers remaining than most teams above me has nothing to do with my viewpoint!)

Mmmmmm. It's definitely one to ponder over the next few days. I sense that it's a no-win situation, but likely to get far less flak by not including it.

There is a specific statement on the Tournament Listing page that "the schedule is subject to change depending on enforced alterations on the European or PGA Tours", but doesn't necessarily mean that we have an obligation to add this particular event - especially as it forms neither part of the FedEx Cup or the Fall Series.

As already stated, it would lead to "easy points" as 25 PGA Tour players would simply be competing against 10 Asian Tour players and five sponsor's invitations. However, much like the HSBC Champions event, many of the leading Americans may not want to bother...



Unfortunately, this event has only just been added to the (PGA Tour) calendar. Just because there isn't an event scheduled for a given week on either tour, it doesn't mean that there is necessarily going to be one - for that reason, I can't really insert a TBC to cater for such situations at the start of the competition.

A TBC can really only be inserted if either the European Tour or the PGA Tour have an event provisionally scheduled for a given week, but have yet to confirm the event and/or location.

In spite of all of Mr Green good intent -it is an appropriate discussion to be shown to be initiated by an associated member of OFL. Just imagine a non fisoer complaining if losing out to points scored from an additional event discussed on the forum by those who had a vested interest and may be seen to influence the decision in spite of all of us knowing that Matt is of the highest integrity.

As innocent as it is I still think it is a best avoided to avoid repercussions.

As for the decision - there was a sanctioned event last year and it was added so the precedent has possibly already been set and I would have bigger concerns if it was not therefore added.

"Never afraid to rock the boat" Mulhall - at your disposal

Oh yes and I have 13 transfers left after this week ;0)

PS can we make it a quadruple SPECIAL points week........Ill need it by then!

Agreed, but it's a good way to cover your back if you put TBC at every vacant slot, you then only have to confirm later that there is no competition on that particular date.

The reason for this thread was to gauge the opinions of a small sample size (which happens to be FISOers) rather than opening it up to the floor, as it were. At the end of the day, the decision lies entirely with me...

I guess I'd better add the PGA Grand Slam of Golf while I'm at it - now that would be some seriously easy points!

Perhaps the Ryder Cup could be included in 2012, with a suitable scoring system?

The Viking Classic this year (or whichever event shares the same week next time) pales in comparison to the interest generated by the Cup.

I guess I'd better add the PGA Grand Slam of Golf while I'm at it - now that would be some seriously easy points![/quote]

Cool - and the Fiso Open - I need to get the valuation on Jonathon. I think we discussed prices before with Toffee at 0.2m - Ill pass on that ;0)

I do really think though that if this is a sanctioned tour event during the time frame of teh comp then for consistency it should be included.there has always been teh caveat of additions

I really think that the best way to sort this for future seasons is to produce a definitive 'Tournament Listing' before the season begins and thats that. No tournament gets added and no tournament disappears.

Everybody knows where they stand at the start and nobody can have any complaints. Simple

Also voted no agreeing with these posts.

Spot on Phil , exactly what I said last year when the dreaded JBWere was added

Although ironically it favoured the players who had enough transfers to bring Tiger back in.

Funny how times change, not sure I'd want to bring Tiger in this year , though maybe the Ryder Cup will change that!

How about a good reason why?

When the JB Were question came up last year both Toffeelover and I independently queried it to Mr. Green by pointing out that there are opposite events for the likes of The Open and Firestone (think those two are the main ones) and that these could arguably merit inclusion. There was a substantive response why not.

But this brazen attempt by the PGA to combat the European Tour's growing influence in Asia has no merit in the game - it is a very limited field (at least next week is the product of the playoffs determining the most elite golfers) and the criteria are completely unknown - the first 25 PGA Tour members who say yes! Standard tournaments have a strict selection criteria; this has nothing.

I'm not entirely sure when the CIMB Asia Pacific Classic was added to the PGA Tour calendar - I would be surprised if I simply didn't take account of it, but it may have been there since March!

Anyway, the more I think about this, the more I'm swaying towards "no" - the reason being (and it has been touched on here) is that although it is being "co-sanctioned" by the PGA Tour, it is obviously not being fully recognised in that it does not count towards the Money List.

Admittedly, the WGC HSBC Champions event doesn't count towards the Money List either, but it does count towards the European Tour's Race to Dubai, which therefore merits its inclusion (and being a WGC event, means it's double-weighted).

The limited field for this event would indeed make it a bit of a mockery, but this cannot enter the equation as to whether it should be included or not.

I also think this ruling would be consistent with last year's decision to include the JBWere Masters - as this particular event contributed to the Race to Dubai and was therefore fully recognised by the European Tour.

I can certainly understand the school of thought not to add to the Tournament Listing in any circumstances once it is published, but there is a danger of missing out a fully recognised PGA Tour or European Tour event. Indeed, there have been several occasions in the last 10 years that events have been subsequently added - the vast majority with several months notice beforehand and would not have affected tactics in any way. Again, one to certainly ponder...

The format of the Ryder Cup makes it over-complicated to add as a one-off mechanic and is far better suited to an entirely separate game in my opinion. (Unfortunately, unlike 2008, there won't be one this year.)

Thanks for the updated thinking, Mr. Green.

Votes 'yes' (as 'techincally' I can see why it should be included according to my reading of the terms and conditions) but can quite understand if 'no' were to be the ultimate decision.

Personally, if I were you, I would omit it. For the 'chasers' like me it's a good opportunity to gain points, but for the leaders it's a good opportunity to fall back. If it were omitted, I wouldn't kick up a fuss and doubt many others would, but if it were included I think some of the top few teams might (although of course this only applies to about 5/10 managers or so!)

Wow - what a head-do'er

Ask young Adam to biff the keyboard and see what happens.

Computer says "no"...

The way I'm playing I don't blame you!

Mr Green. Can't you just set it up so those outside the top 548 only score for the tournament in question?

Hope minds are open to a rethink. The Ryder Cup attracts far more interest from the general public than any other golf event. It'd be great if Fantasy League can find a scoring system that enables the biennial tournament to be included in future.

While rain holds up play in Wales, perhaps FISO people might find time to post some practical suggestions for consideration?