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 Post subject: Double patio doors. I can't decide.
PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 17:31 
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For those of you that have them do you have them opening in or out? I have to decide over the next couple of weeks and to be honest it's a struggle. Mrs Spiny has left the decision to me so what are the pros and cons?


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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 17:52 
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Well mine open out.

I'm worried now I might be missing something by not having the 'open in' ones.


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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 18:06 
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Mine open out as well - as for pros and cons, I would have thought it all depended on how the doors impede in each direction, ie do they bash against any walls or block anything off? If nothing either way, then IMO out is best


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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 18:09 
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Mine open out
Not sure what the point of opening in is?


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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 18:11 
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The quotes are due in today for our new kitchen extension and the patio doors will be opening out. It didn't occur to me to do anything else to be honest


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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 18:12 
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Never seen any that open in :shock: maybe the house you saw them in had them fitted by a numpty

Go for open out mate 8-)


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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 18:14 
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Out as well.

However you must make sue that when you open them out and want to sit in the garden that they open reasonably flat to the outside wall (they will stick out a bit) to enable you to sit just outside on decking or patio. Which is nice in the summer.

If they open inwards then you have to shift furniture about to get them fully opn like that.


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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 18:27 
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Out as well.

However you must make sue that when you open them out and want to sit in the garden that they open reasonably flat to the outside wall (they will stick out a bit) to enable you to sit just outside on decking or patio. .


Or have a garden more than 2 square feet :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Double patio doors. I can't decide.
PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 18:30 
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Open out, so the snow does not force them open?

What about sliders? More space efficient.


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 Post subject: Re: Double patio doors. I can't decide.
PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 18:37 
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you might have them open inwards if you had a few steps outside the back door

why not make this a pole?

in?
out?
shakeitallabout?


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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 18:41 
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you might have them open inwards if you had a few steps outside the back door

why not make this a pole?

in?
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slideitallabout?



corrected :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Double patio doors. I can't decide.
PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 19:09 
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The doors that we have which have never worked since being fitted by a firm that went bust open inwards. I have therefore arranged the garden and patio to cater for this. The doubt was put in my mind by the people who are going to fit our new ones who thought it was odd that our old doors open inwards. There is a large step downwards into our garden but I'm tempted by the idea of opening outwards just because we can. :)


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Is there any correlation to the fact that this firm fitted a load of patio doors in the wrong way round and them now not being a firm anymore :?


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Is there any correlation to the fact that this firm fitted a load of patio doors in the wrong way round and them now not being a firm anymore :?




Inside out sounds like a more accurate description :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Double patio doors. I can't decide.
PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 19:18 
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Is there any correlation to the fact that this firm fitted a load of patio doors in the wrong way round and them now not being a firm anymore :?




It could have been something to do with the patio doors also being our only back door.

Our front door opens inwards so perhaps they did it to match. :)


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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 19:24 
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Go for french or vanesian doors, those that slide but fold up as you slide them


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This is something I have thought about, not the patio but in genral the way doors open.

Here in Finland the frontdoor opens outwards and I assumed that was to do with it being a fire hazard, easier to push the door open rather than to pull it open. But tha back door opens inwards. Also probably safer when you have the chain on if you have opened the door outwards you cant really kick the door open you just kick it shut. If you open it inwards its easier to kick it open

In the uk as far as I can remember all front doors open inwards and backdoors open inwards, It seems only patio doors open outwards.


Anyone know the reasoning behind this?


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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 20:00 
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This is something I have thought about, not the patio but in genral the way doors open.

Here in Finland the frontdoor opens outwards and I assumed that was to do with it being a fire hazard, easier to push the door open rather than to pull it open. But tha back door opens inwards. Also probably safer when you have the chain on if you have opened the door outwards you cant really kick the door open you just kick it shut. If you open it inwards its easier to kick it open

In the uk as far as I can remember all front doors open inwards and backdoors open inwards, It seems only patio doors open outwards.


Anyone know the reasoning behind this?



In Russia they open outwards because of the snow, although some though it was Nuclear-bomb related. Not sure why Finland back doors open inwards.

Here (UK) we have front doors, which open onto streets, if they opened outwards people walking down the street could get a whack from an opening door :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Double patio doors. I can't decide.
PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 20:10 
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Finsimbo wrote:
This is something I have thought about, not the patio but in genral the way doors open.

Here in Finland the frontdoor opens outwards and I assumed that was to do with it being a fire hazard, easier to push the door open rather than to pull it open. But tha back door opens inwards. Also probably safer when you have the chain on if you have opened the door outwards you cant really kick the door open you just kick it shut. If you open it inwards its easier to kick it open

In the uk as far as I can remember all front doors open inwards and backdoors open inwards, It seems only patio doors open outwards.


Anyone know the reasoning behind this?



In Russia they open outwards because of the snow, although some though it was Nuclear-bomb related. Not sure why Finland back doors open inwards.

Here (UK) we have front doors, which open onto streets, if they opened outwards people walking down the street could get a whack from an opening door :lol:



Ehh

Uk front doors open inwards, here they open outwards.

What are you saying here

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we have front doors, which open onto streets, if they opened outwards people walking down the street could get a whack


Same thing shirley :wink:


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Or have a garden more than 2 square feet :lol:


Where i live that would involve another half a million quid :wink:


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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 20:15 
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Groomyd wrote:
kizkiz wrote:
Or have a garden more than 2 square feet :lol:


Where i live that would involve another half a million quid :wink:



Ive got a porsche heheh....


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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 20:35 
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blahblah wrote:
Finsimbo wrote:
This is something I have thought about, not the patio but in genral the way doors open.

Here in Finland the frontdoor opens outwards and I assumed that was to do with it being a fire hazard, easier to push the door open rather than to pull it open. But tha back door opens inwards. Also probably safer when you have the chain on if you have opened the door outwards you cant really kick the door open you just kick it shut. If you open it inwards its easier to kick it open

In the uk as far as I can remember all front doors open inwards and backdoors open inwards, It seems only patio doors open outwards.


Anyone know the reasoning behind this?



In Russia they open outwards because of the snow, although some though it was Nuclear-bomb related. Not sure why Finland back doors open inwards.

Here (UK) we have front doors, which open onto streets, if they opened outwards people walking down the street could get a whack from an opening door :lol:



Ehh

Uk front doors open inwards, here they open outwards.

What are you saying here

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we have front doors, which open onto streets, if they opened outwards people walking down the street could get a whack


Same thing shirley :wink:



Here front doors open inwards :oops:

The snow thing is what I as told and believed. I would think that Finnish open outwards too, for the same reason (the snow could force its way through an inward opening door)


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 Post subject: Re: Double patio doors. I can't decide.
PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 20:52 
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It's a great thread. :D

The Oracle's of course open out, which is all you need to know. 8-)


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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2010, 21:32 
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The Oracle's of course open out, which is all you need to know. 8-)



Except for the reason why. :?:


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