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 Post subject: CRACK THE CODE 2010/11 (The FISO Guide to FPL Price Changes)
PostPosted: 11 Aug 2010, 13:29 
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THE FISO GUIDE TO FPL PLAYER PRICE CHANGES

Crack The Code is back for a new season! CTC is the wondrous creation of FISO member diamondplus (to whom we are heavily indebted), backed up by calculations and deductions made by FISO boffins who have successfully worked out the vast majority of FPL's "secret" price-change algorithms! The site predicts which FPL players will rise and fall in price each day, and is a hugely valuable tool to many thousands of FPL managers worldwide!

In this opening post you'll find stuboy's FAQs and in the following posts is a more detailed explanation of the site.

This season's Price Change Site, aka "CrackTheCode", can be found HERE.


NOTES ABOUT THE CTC SITE:
! The CTC site is updated every day at 09:00, 13:00, 16:00, 18:00, 19:00, 20:00, 22:00.

! FPL.com price changes occur between 00:30 and 03:30 GMT/BST each day.

! The rise and the fall thresholds will vary over the season. Any changes to this algorithm will be reflected on diamondplus's site at the earliest opportunity. For this reason users must accept the possibility of inaccuracies on the site.

! Price drops for players with less than 1% ownership (see FPL site) can not be deduced accurately and so are not included.

! There is a margin of error implicit in all 'Price Drops: Selected By' statistics due to the ownership details given on the FPL.com stats page being rounded to a whole percent. This small margin of error can sometimes result in prices not falling when predicted by the site, or vice versa.



IMPORTANT! This information is used at your own risk.
1) Diamondplus maintains this website in his spare time and for no financial reward. While he will endeavour to keep it up to date this is not always immediately possible and he is under no obligation to do so at all. Users must take responsibility for their own actions. FISO and diamondplus accept no responsibility for errors on the site, nor for the actions of those using the site as a guide to price changes.
2) Although we expect the general rules to be the same as previous seasons, there will be a margin of error in the early days as we ascertain this, and also as we need to estimate the threshold figures for the new season (which will certainly be different to past years).


FAQs

PRICE RISES

Q: Hi, I’m kind of new to this Crack the Code site. How does it work?
A: Crack the Code, known as CTC, is a site that predicts which players will either increase or decrease in value based on the Fantasy Premier League (FPL). It has been developed by Diamondplus who tries to work out the formula that the FPL uses in order to determine these increases & decreases.

Q: Interesting, so when do these price increases/decreases happen?
A: We’re not 100% sure but it is sometime between 00.30 and 03.30 every day.

Q: Does that mean a player can only increase/decrease once in day?
A: Exactly, they can’t increase/decrease more than £0.1m in one day. They can however increase/decrease every day in a week, but I’ll cover that shortly.

Q: And how often does CTC get updated?
A: This one we are sure of! It’s updated at 09:00, 13:00, 16:00, 18:00, 19:00, 20:00, 22:00 every day.

Q: Alright, so I’m looking at the CTC page for rises, what does everything mean?
A: Let’s start from the right hand side. You’ll see Target NTI. NTI stands for Net Transfers In. This number is calculated by taking all the teams that buy a player and subtracting the number of teams that sell a player. In order for a player to increase in value, they need to hit the NTI Target.

Q: So how do you know what the NTI target is meant to be?
A: Truthfully we don’t. It’s a bit of a moving target as FPL don’t let us know but as the season continues and we see more players increase in value, we get a better idea of what an NTI target is meant to be. This is due to being able to see what player’s NTIs were when they increased and therefore can speculate with more accuracy. The swing can be approx 3% either direction.

Q: And how do you know how many teams have actually bought/sold a player?
A: That information is actually found on the FPL site – just not everyone knows about it. If you click on the transfers tab on FPL, on the right you’ll see that it is defaulted at Score (Total). Click on that tab and go down and you’ll see transfers in, transfers out, transfers in (Gameweek), transfers out (Gameweek).

Q: Wow, never knew that
A: Glad I could teach you something....

Q: So going back to the CTC, if a player hits their NTI target they automatically increase in value?
A: Without confusing you right now, yes that is correct. There are some situations this doesn’t happen but I’ll cover them later as they are few and far between. In general though, yes they do increase in value.

Q: So looking at CTC, I can see a player’s NTI Target. I presume the NTI is what they are currently on and NTI (Today) shows me what increase/decrease they’ve had today?
A: Spot on

Q: So if a player’s NTI target is 32,500 and they have an NTI of 36,500 when the price increase occurs, do 4000 NTI roll over for their next target?
A: Unfortunately not, no. When a player hits their target and the price increase happens, their NTI total get reset back to zero. This includes all additional NTIs above the target. They just get lost into the ether.

Q: You mentioned above that a player can increase more than once in a week. Does the NTI target just get reset as well?
A: This is where it differs. If a player increases in value because they hit their NTI target, then in order for them to increase again in the same GameWeek (GW) the NTI target gets doubled. If they happen to hit that NTI target, in order for them to get a third increase, their NTI target gets trebled. You with me?

Q: Think so, but can you show me some numbers to make it clearer?
A: Of course. So if the NTI target is 32,500, and the player hits this in a GW, remember their NTI total gets reset back to zero. If they are to increase again in the same GW, their NTI target is now 65,000 (32,500 x 2). If they manage to hit that increase again in the same GW, then their NTI target becomes 97,500 (32,500 x 3) and so on. Remember, each time they hit the NTI target in the same GW, they NTI total is reset to zero.

Q: So how many times can a player actually increase?
A: In truth, there are enough teams that a player can increase every day of a GW but this is highly unlikely. Players have managed to rise 3 times in the same week.

Q: What happens to that player’s NTI target at the end of the GW?
A: The NTI target gets brought back down to the original 1st level, in this case 32,500, at the end of a GW.

Q: But let’s say a player has hit their first NTI target and now are trying to hit 65,000 for NTI target 2. Let’s say the NTI total is 45,000 at the end of the GW, do they also get lost into the ether?
A: No – this is where it’s a bit different. In fact, end of GW NTI totals, get rolled over. The only time NTI totals get lost is on the night of an increase.

Q: So if I’m getting this right, if 45,000 NTI total gets rolled on to the next GW and the NTI target is reset to 32,500 then the first night they’ll have an automatic increase?
A: That is correct

Q: But the additional 12,500 (45,000 minus 32,500) will be lost when that increase happens?
A: That’s perfect. Do you want my job??


PRICE DROPS

Q: No, not really but I do want to understand how player’s prices dropping works?
A: Whereas price increases had to do with NTIs, price decreases have got to do with NTOs (Net Transfers Out). Each player has an NTO Threshold and when they reach this, their price drops.

Q: Is the NTO Threshold the same for each player?
A: The formula is the same but the actual NTO number is different. The way you work out (formula) a player’s NTO Threshold, is to calculate what approximately 10% of their actual ownership number is. Hitting this number causes the price drop.

Q: Ownership number? How do I find out what that is?
A: Firstly, looking back at the FPL site, if you go to transfer page and look at each individual player, you’ll see the (i) icon to the left of their name. If you click on that, you’ll see a small window pop up. In that window you can see the % of “Teams Selected By”.

Q: That gives me a % but how do I know how many teams are in the league?
A: Now go back to “My Team” on the FPL site. On the right hand side you’ll see “Points/Rankings”. Under that you will see “Total Players”. To prevent confusion I’m going to refer to them as Total Teams. Therefore if there are 2 million total teams and you know a player is owned by 20% of teams, then you know that player is owned by.....

Q: 400,000 teams.
A: Correct. And if their NTO Threshold to drop in price is approx. 10% of that .....?

Q: Then they’ll need 40,000 players to sell them for their price to fall.
A: Spot on!

Q: Why do you say it’s approximately 10%?
A: Similar to price increases, we don’t know the exact formula that FPL uses to decide on price decreases but our research shows it’s approximately 10%.

Q: So how does it work if a player has already reduced in price once in a week? Can they fall again?
A: A couple of things to mention here. Firstly, again, exactly like price increases, when a player’s price drops, any additional NTOs get lost into the ether and their NTO Threshold gets reset back to zero. Secondly, once a player reduces once in a GW, in order for them to reduce again in the same GW their NTO Threshold is double the original one. For a third decrease in the same GW, the NTO Threshold is 3 times the original and this goes on and on. However, once the GW is over, any outstanding NTOs are carried over to the next GW and the NTO Threshold is reset using the same formula above.

Q: So are there any times when the NTO Threshold can be different from how you’ve explained it above?
A: Yes – sorry, I know this gets a bit complicated but work with me on this.
1) When a player’s value is higher than their season-beginning value, then in order for them to have a price decrease, instead of an NTO Threshold, they just need to hit the negative NTI Threshold instead, if this is smaller than the 10% of manager’s that own him.

Q: You say what???
A: Take Drogba, let’s say his last price increase was an NTI Target of 31,000. His value is now above his season-beginning value. He now loses form and people want to sell him. His “Teams Selected By” number is 25%. On a game with 2 million teams he is owned by 500,000 teams. 10% of that would be 50,000 and that should be his NTO Threshold to drop. BUT, because he has risen already in the game, his NTO is now the 31,000 (original NTI target) as this is lower than the 10%.

Q: And any other differences on NTO Threshold?
A: 2) Any player who has less than 1% “Teams Selected By” work on a different scale. Unfortunately we’re not sure how this is calculated. Also worth noting that there is a slight margin in error for all NTO Thresholds as the “Teams Selected By” on the FPL site is rounded to the nearest decimal, therefore the NTO Threshold will not be completely accurate.

Q: So that’s it? I’m ready to use CTC?
A: Actually no. There are a couple of other things you should be aware of such as Flagging & Protection of players.

FLAGGING & PROTECTION OF PLAYERS

Q: Flagging & Protection of Players? Explain away….
A: When a player is either injured, doubtful, suspended or ineligible then the (i) next to their name on FPL will be flagged red or yellow.

Q: Does this mean the player is protected from any price drop?
A: NO – absolutely not and this is a major mistake many people make. Anyone who is flagged will still be able to increase and decrease in value. The increase NTI target stays the same. However the NTO Threshold for a price drop is approximately 2.5 times greater than the usual Threshold for price drops.

Q: Why is that?
A: The general thinking here is that when a player is injured or suspended, naturally a lot of people will want to sell that player. In order to ensure their price doesn’t fall dramatically, the Threshold is increased.

Q: So if a player’s NTO Threshold was 40,000, it’s now going to be 2.5 times greater than that when they are flagged – so 100,000?
A: Correct

Q: But their NTI target for increase doesn’t change?
A: Again correct

Q: Is it likely a player will increase in value or even people buying him in if they are flagged?
A: It could be. Let’s say a player got flagged red as they were being suspended for 1 game for receiving 5 yellow cards. This might not put people off from keeping this player, if they are in the knowledge that he will be back next game. Plus, if this player is already on a rise, there is no reason that more teams won’t buy him and bench him for one week.

Q: So what is protection all about?
A: If a player is red or yellow flagged for 2 days or more, once their (i) icon goes back to grey, they are protected for 8 days.

Q: What does that effectively mean?
A: It means that for the next 8 days their price is frozen. It can neither rise nor fall. Once the 8 days is up, the player’s NTI or NTO is reset to zero and the normal rules of increases/decreases kick in from there.

Q: So their price is only frozen once the flag is lifted, not whilst they are flagged?
A: Correct

Q: But what happens if they are only red/yellow flagged for 1 day?
A: Then there is no protection period – just their NTI/NTO target is reset to zero and the normal rules of increases/decreases start from there.

Q: So anything else I should know?
A: It’s important to remember that CTC will never be 100% accurate. It takes a lot of dedication from people who, in their spare time, are analysing the information we can gather from price rises and decreases and trying to accurately predict the formulas. Ultimately though, FPL will never reveal their formulas and therefore the CTC team will always be half a step behind. It’s bit like a game of cat and mouse. Sometimes we manage to paw the mouse and sometimes it manages to go left, when we’re still chasing right.

So if you notice something is wrong (or went wrong) try and help us understand why a player increased/decreased when we were not expecting him to or why a player DIDN’T increase/decrease when we were expecting it!

Q: Thanks for all the help
A: No problem at all

Q: So now I’m ready to use CTC?
A: You were always ready to use CTC, you just never knew it!


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THE RULES OF FPL PRICE CHANGES

Players' price rises and falls occur due to transfer activity among FPL managers.

Price changes depend on each player's Net Transfers In (NTI) = transfers in - transfers out.
(Also referred to below is Net Transfers Out (NTO) = transfers out - transfers in : this is simply the opposite (negative) of NTI.)


IMPORTANT: Counting a player's NTI:
A player's NTI is counted up cumulatively from day 1 of the season, the important thing to note is you do not start counting again each day, nor even each new gameweek. However a player's NTI count does restart from zero (aka is "reset") in the following cases:

(1) When the player rises or falls in price
(2) Following removal of a player's yellow/red (i) status after an injury/suspension: either immediately or after an 8-day price-protection period (see below for information on 'protection')
(3) After a player transfers to a PL club from outside the Premier League

The only thing to be reset at a gameweek deadline is a player's rise/drop target (if it had been doubled in the previous gameweek following a rise: see below under "notes").




Price changes occur overnight (between 00:30 and 03:30 British time), according to players' NTI numbers at that time.



Price Rises:
Price rises of 0.1m occur when a player's Net Transfers In (NTI) reaches a set number. We call this number the 'NTI Threshold' or 'rise target'.

The NTI Threshold is decided by FPL themselves. The NTI Threshold at the start of last season was approximately 27,000, but will be different this season and will vary over the course of the season. (And see notes 3-5 below, for special rules for players rising more than once in a single gameweek)


Price Falls:
Price falls of 0.1m occur when a player's Net Transfers Out (NTO) reaches a particular number. We call this number the 'NTO Threshold' or 'fall target'.

Note the NTO Threshold is different for each player! It is calculated as a set percentage of a player's ownership in the FPL game (therefore it depends on how many managers own the player). That percentage is usually circa 10%, but this may be different this season and will also vary over the season. (And see notes 3-5 below, for special rules for players falling more than once in a single gameweek)

Here is an example of how to determine a player's Fall Threshold. (For the purposes of this explanation I shall assume the FPL's chosen % is 10%, as the true figure is variable and not exactly known.)

First find out how many players own this player. Find the '% Teams Selected By' stat from that player's profile. Multiply this by the 'Total Players' stat (on My Team page and others).
[Example (with made up numbers): Boselli owned by 1.5% of teams. Total 2 million teams in game. Boselli is owned by 2 million x 1.5% = 30,000 teams]

Next, work out what "10% of Managers who own him" is. This figure is his NTO Fall Threshold. When this number of Net Transfers Out occurs his price will fall by 0.1m.
[Example: Boselli owned by 30,000 teams. 10% of this is 3,000. Therefore Boselli's Fall Threshold would be 3,000 NTO]

Caveat for price falls for players whose price is above their initial value
A player whose price is higher than their season-beginning value will fall at the negative NTI Threshold instead, if this is smaller than the "10% of managers who own him" figure.



NOTES
1) Players' prices will only rise or fall by a maximum of 0.1m per day.

2) NTIs and NTOs in excess of any threshold are not carried over towards the next price change when that threshold is passed, but are 'lost to the economy'. After any price change the NTI counter is reset to zero and a new count commences.

3) For a player to gain a second rise within a gameweek, his NTI threshold will be double the usual. Similarly to suffer a second fall within a gameweek, his NTO threshold will be double his original threshold.

4) Any third rise or fall that gameweek will require three times the original number of NTIs or NTOs, respectively. And so on for fourth rise/fall etc...

(Caveat to points 3 and 4: if a player has had both a rise and a fall already in the gameweek, they offset each other and his next rise or fall is treated as the first of the week)

5) At the end of any gameweek every player's thresholds return to their basic level.



Consequently, any player who has risen in price once that week (getting circa 27k NTI) and finds himself somewhere between the First Rise Threshold and the Second (getting yet another (circa) 27K - 54K NTI) on Friday (or the last day of that gameweek) is guaranteed to rise on the first night of the new gameweek when the NTI Threshold returns to 27K.




Yellow/Red Flagged Players:
Injured, doubtful, ineligible and suspended players will continue to rise or fall. The NTI Threshold (rise target) remains as normal, but the NTO Threshold (fall target) is multiplied by approximately 2.5.

When a player returns to fitness/eligibility (grey "i") the following conditions apply (subject to warning below):

Red flagged for more than one day: Their price will be frozen for 8 days, and transfers will not be counted during this "protection period". After 8 days their NTI count is reset to 0 and transfers have their normal effect.

Only having been red flagged for one day, or yellow flagged: Player's NTI is reset to 0 and count restarts immediately.

(*WARNING: during the 2009/10 season, the conditions for when a player does or doesn't receive the 8-day protection period seemed to be wrong sometimes, and we have not been able to work out what FPL's new rule is yet.)



Transferred Players:
Players NEWLY ADDED TO THE PLAYER LIST, for example after being transferred into the Premier League (perhaps also when added to the first-team squad from the reserves), will be exempt from price changes for eight days from being added to the player list. After the 8-day "protection period" transfers have their normal effect with the count starting at 0.


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Thread History

Crack The Code is now 4 years old! The original 'Code Thread' can be found here: Cracking the Code - A FISO Guide to Determining Price Changes.
'Page 1, Post 1' contains a summary of how the FPL.com price fluctuations were determined in the 2006/07 season. The 'Roll of Honour', acknowledging the contributions of those members involved in this endeavour, can be found here.

At the start of the 06/07 season members of FISO set out to determine how player price changes were decided in the FPL.com game. Despite the limitations of the information available to us we succeeded - near as dammit, anyway! :P What started as a manual effort was, throughout the season, refined by the membership. Our IT experts were eventually able to provide all the information we require, available at the click of a button!

The pinnacle of this group achievement came when diamondplus automated the stats-gathering process and provided a webspace available to us all! :D

The 2007/2008 Price Change Thread built on the previous season's successes and can be found here.

That was naturally followed by the 2008/09 CTC thread, and subsequently the 2009/10 thread, where we continued to build on existing knowledge yet be flummoxed many a time by FPL's seemingly random flag protection rules!


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^ That's all the formalities, two more things to say:

1: I'm aware that the current Sun ad banner is preventing us clicking the CTC link from the dropdown under 'Fantasy Football' in the blue bar at the top of FISO. I've informed Admin who said the ad will be gone in about 10 days, and you can work around by first clicking the "Fantasy Football" header after which the ad doesn't appear so you can then click CTC.

Or you can just use the link http://www.fiso.co.uk/crackthecode.php (and bookmark it :wink: )


2: Negotiations have been afoot to try to improve the accuracy of CTC's threshold calculation this season. Hopefully you will see the benefits of these discussions over the coming months, but please bear with it from the start, as it could be at least a week or two into the season before we can nail the thresholds down anyway!


PS. Can a mod sticky this pretty please? :)


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On a side note...

I'm currently on holiday in Spain, so whilst I can read FISO, I won't be able to fix any problems with CTC until I get back on the 21st.

I've set CTC to auto-run in my absence so, fingers crossed, everything should be all right.


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Is it possible for a price to go below the base cost eg. can someone at 4.0 go down to 3.9?


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Is it possible for a price to go below the base cost eg. can someone at 4.0 go down to 3.9?

Yes, there's no minimum limit (although I've never seen anyone go further than 0.3 below base price, because managers start buying them as an uber-cheap bench sitter)


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any update on when CTC will be up an running?... I am totally lost without it! :D
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What are we looking at as an estimate of the first threshold - 27,000 ish?

If so

ID PlayerName Position Team Price Threshold GW Adjusted Perc
510 Harewood Forward BLACKPOOL 4.50 27000.00 16635 16635 61.61
159 Drogba Forward CHELSEA 12.50 27000.00 15154 15154 56.13
49 Albrighton Midfielder ASTON VILLA 4.50 27000.00 13859 13859 51.33
235 Hart Goalkeeper MANCHESTER CITY 6.00 27000.00 9145 9145 33.87
102 Baptiste Defender BLACKPOOL 4.00 27000.00 8306 8306 30.76
372 Bale Midfielder TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 6.50 27000.00 4996 4996 18.50
154 Malouda Midfielder CHELSEA 9.50 27000.00 4902 4902 18.16
64 Larsson Midfielder BIRMINGHAM CITY 5.50 27000.00 4185 4185 15.50
42 Petrov Midfielder ASTON VILLA 5.50 27000.00 3577 3577 13.25
358 Bent Forward SUNDERLAND 8.50 27000.00 3003 3003 11.12


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 Post subject: Re: CRACK THE CODE 2010/11 (The FISO Guide to FPL Price Chan
PostPosted: 15 Aug 2010, 13:41 
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Murder1 wrote:
What are we looking at as an estimate of the first threshold - 27,000 ish?

If so

ID PlayerName Position Team Price Threshold GW Adjusted Perc
510 Harewood Forward BLACKPOOL 4.50 27000.00 16635 16635 61.61
159 Drogba Forward CHELSEA 12.50 27000.00 15154 15154 56.13
49 Albrighton Midfielder ASTON VILLA 4.50 27000.00 13859 13859 51.33
235 Hart Goalkeeper MANCHESTER CITY 6.00 27000.00 9145 9145 33.87
102 Baptiste Defender BLACKPOOL 4.00 27000.00 8306 8306 30.76
372 Bale Midfielder TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 6.50 27000.00 4996 4996 18.50
154 Malouda Midfielder CHELSEA 9.50 27000.00 4902 4902 18.16
64 Larsson Midfielder BIRMINGHAM CITY 5.50 27000.00 4185 4185 15.50
42 Petrov Midfielder ASTON VILLA 5.50 27000.00 3577 3577 13.25
358 Bent Forward SUNDERLAND 8.50 27000.00 3003 3003 11.12


Thanks for this update.
Any chance that Drogba is protected given he was yellow flagged?


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 Post subject: Re: CRACK THE CODE 2010/11 (The FISO Guide to FPL Price Chan
PostPosted: 15 Aug 2010, 13:42 
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We'll possibly see tonight, the whole protection thing threw up some surprises last season so it's really just a case of waiting and seeing.


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Mucho apologies for the lack of updates. I'm currently in Spain so I can't fix the problem until next Saturday.


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PostPosted: 15 Aug 2010, 17:19 
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Do people think, based on last year, that Harewood would be protected as he was transferred in a few days ago?


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I think so yes, but we won't know for sure until he rises (or others rise and he hasn't)


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PostPosted: 15 Aug 2010, 19:35 
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Hope this helps

ID PlayerName Position Team Price Threshold GW Adjusted Perc
159 Drogba Forward CHELSEA 12.50 27000.00 20868 20868 77.29
510 Harewood Forward BLACKPOOL 4.50 27000.00 20777 20777 76.95
49 Albrighton Midfielder ASTON VILLA 4.50 27000.00 18113 18113 67.09
235 Hart Goalkeeper MANCHESTER CITY 6.00 27000.00 11643 11643 43.12
102 Baptiste Defender BLACKPOOL 4.00 27000.00 10810 10810 40.04
154 Malouda Midfielder CHELSEA 9.50 27000.00 8864 8864 32.83
372 Bale Midfielder TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 6.50 27000.00 6379 6379 23.63
64 Larsson Midfielder BIRMINGHAM CITY 5.50 27000.00 6157 6157 22.80
42 Petrov Midfielder ASTON VILLA 5.50 27000.00 4656 4656 17.24
363 Assou-Ekotto Defender TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 5.50 27000.00 4318 4318 15.99


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 Post subject: Re: CRACK THE CODE 2010/11 (The FISO Guide to FPL Price Chan
PostPosted: 15 Aug 2010, 22:24 
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From this,

ID PlayerName Position Team Price Threshold GW Adjusted Perc
159 Drogba Forward CHELSEA 12.50 27000.00 20868 20868 77.29

Can anyone tell me what

1. The ID is for

and 2. what the 'Perc' is?

Cheers - just trying to figure out when to get Drogs in.


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PostPosted: 16 Aug 2010, 08:05 
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We could be looking at a 28k+ threshold and it may well be the case that Drogba is protected.

Hopefully we'll know more tomorrow morning

ID PlayerName Position Team Price Threshold GW Adjusted Perc
159 Drogba Forward CHELSEA 12.50 27000.00 27965 27965 103.57
510 Harewood Forward BLACKPOOL 4.50 27000.00 25794 25794 95.53
49 Albrighton Midfielder ASTON VILLA 4.50 27000.00 23333 23333 86.42
235 Hart Goalkeeper MANCHESTER CITY 6.00 27000.00 14654 14654 54.27
102 Baptiste Defender BLACKPOOL 4.00 27000.00 4061 14061 52.08
154 Malouda Midfielder CHELSEA 9.50 27000.00 13414 13414 49.68
64 Larsson Midfielder BIRMINGHAM CITY 5.50 27000.00 8628 8628 31.96
372 Bale Midfielder TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 6.50 27000.00 8095 8095 29.98
363 Assou-Ekotto Defender TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 5.50 27000.00 6024 6024 22.31
42 Petrov Midfielder ASTON VILLA 5.50 27000.00 5957 5957 22.06


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 Post subject: Re: CRACK THE CODE 2010/11 (The FISO Guide to FPL Price Chan
PostPosted: 16 Aug 2010, 09:23 
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ID is just the FPL player code

Perc is the percentage of Net transfers in relative to the threshold value for the price change. Once that gets to around 100% people would be hoping for a +0.1 change in price. Unless of course the 27000 predicted NTI based on last year is different or the particular player (eg Harewood) might be under protection due to being a new player or a transfer to a new club.


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webwibble wrote:
ID is just the FPL player code

Perc is the percentage of Net transfers in relative to the threshold value for the price change. Once that gets to around 100% people would be hoping for a +0.1 change in price. Unless of course the 27000 predicted NTI based on last year is different or the particular player (eg Harewood) might be under protection due to being a new player or a transfer to a new club.


Exactly, I just added 27,000 as a guide we won't know the threshold until somebody moves in price.


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Drogba over 30k, now

All of Brighton over 25k


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