Absolutely, thats why the likes of Walcott and Carroll look like gold dust at the moment....good performances last couple of weeks AND tasty looking fixtures coming up.

with CTC down does anyone know if there will be any likely roses tonight?

know there's not usually many in midweek

Alex and Sagna and possibly Nolan

btw,did you take the trouble to look at the posts earlier today including Murder1's @1.38 pm ? If not,you should always do so before posting queries.

CTC updated now

great thank you, yeah I had looked butcwasnt sure if there had been any further movement as players like jones had remained around 90 for few days

Buying interest in Jones will have stalled due to his fixtures - Arsenal last week,MC away next week.

CtC's return to action will delight many,especially those playing their wildcards.

It's no so much that buying interest in Jones has stalled, it's actually going backwards. His NTO for the week is 2108 (or NTI is -2108, depending on how your prefer to read it) - so there will unlikely be a price increase for him this week.

Now that Alex has gone up in price, Sagna is the most likely player to increase needing an NTI of just 899 now but I'm not telling you anything you didn't know.

I do have 2 quick questions though: Chamakh this week has an NTI of -17400 (NTO 17400). I realise that some people would have been put off the fact he was on the bench against Blackburn but with Arsenal's next 5 fixtures being BOL,sun,WBA,che,BIR; RVP being out for a few weeks; Wenger not scared of playing 2 upfront at home (Bol, WBA, Bir) and Chamakh getting a decentish return against Blackpool, am I missing why people our offloading him?

Secondly, when considering NTI and NTO for gameweek - when you get people joining FPL in week 2, 3, 4 etc, especially those jokers who want to be high score on a Saturday when there are only 3 fixtures and create a new team just for it - are the players they start their teams with considered an NTI or are new teams added later somehow absorbed within the ownership?

I mean this in the nicest way possible , but for all of you complaining about CtC being down or inaccurate, send Edit: Diamondplus, not Murder1 a checke or shut your traps. He doesn't HAVE to do this you know.

Firstly the game is played by a lot of people who look at nothing more than how a player did last week with regards whether or not to get him in. Therefore there will be a load of people moving Chamakh out irrespective of RVP's injury. The best example of this was last season when all those without Cesc for GW1 brought him in for GW2 despite the fact that Arsenal didn't even play that GW.

Secondly the general thought (may or may not be correct) is that new teams that are added to the game don't impact on NTI/NTO as they aren't transfers. It is believed that they do however go towards the ownership figures.

That'll tell 'em...

This is a most valuable point that people sometimes fail to take into consideration... especially when playing their wildcard.

So based on reading the above and the front page would the following statement be correct.

On the first weekend of the end of the GW a person NTI target will be reset but not the current NTI.

So for example, say someone had a NTI of 10000, and they reached that in 1 GW there next NTI is 20000, if say they get 15000 inand do not reach the double GW rise, the night after the GW closed / next GW opens they will rise as:

NTI target will now be 10000 and NTIs will be 15000 = 150%?

Correct

Hurrah for the drop list being sorted out!! Bent is still quite a way over but I think that's a protection question and a single anomaly. Gone are Craddock, Ferguson, Gomes et al on their thousands of percent!!

Massive thanks to Diamondplus for all the work put in: last week to get it up and running, and this week to fix the craziness that was going on under the drops! FISO bows at your feet (and 'the other site' can now look upon CTC in awe, and long for the day it can work out how to properly handle Gueye, Milijas, Stanislas and co )

Thanks Murder1 for your answers. Here is one more:

So according to my calculations, based on yesterday's NTI increase of 31821 for a player to increase in price, both Nolan and Sagna who increased overnight are only 97.7% & 98.14% towards that figure (at the time of writing). I appreciate that the NTI is a moving number and we don't know it exactly but it got me thinking:

For a player's price to increase, do they need to be above 100% at the time of the price changes, or do they need to have broken the band sometime during the day, even if they are now back below 100%?

Although you can take it too far. My season last year had a very slow start when I let several players overhang the end of my wildcard, meaning that I had to take several weeks to eject the likes of Upson from my squad instead of making optimal transfers. I'll do it a bit this year, but only for players like Scholes.

I don't think anyone knows for sure but the gut feel is the player just needs to be over the threshold at the time of the update.

thanks for the regular ctc updates guys, im not sure how i ever survived before!

just a quick question on the price increases, how come there is sometimes a difference of 0.1m or 0.2m between buying values and resale prices?

i understand the 'fpl broker' has to maintain a 0.1m difference when prices rise on players.

my question is why is this difference sometimes 0.2m?

does the 0.2m reduce to 0.1m after a given period of time?

er i hope that makes sense

The difference is 50% rounded down:

Price rise... profit on sale
0.1............. 0
0.2............. 0.1
0.3............. 0.1
0.4............. 0.2
0.5............. 0.2
0.6............. 0.3
and so on.

Does that answer your question? I'm not too sure that is what it really was...

Yes that does answer my question thankyou.

I thought the Fpl broker would only ever make a 0.1m profit, I didn't realise the price rises were a slightly more complex affair. Thanks again.

FPL's fee is 50% of any profit rounded up to the nearest 0.1,so if you buy for 4.2, and sell for 4.5, you'll receive 4.3

Goldstonemr are you aware that if you click on data view on your FPL transfer page,it will show you your cost and current selling price for everyone in your squad ?

Some people aren't aware of this and panic sell a player to beat a price drop without checking - when they'd perhaps discover they might as well have waited before selling as the 0.1 price drop is irrelevant to them.

Yes I understand I can sell some for more than others following price rises and now I know why due to the 50% profit rule.
And grob you raise an excellent point that I had not considered before; re price drops, so thanks a lot for that tip.

anyone on this site should be able to put some team together in the january wildcard.thats my plan make as much money untill jan then no more point hits after with my dream team!!

No rises in the last 2 days!

Step forward Craig Gardener (mute applause....)

Starting to already look forward to when the next gameweek commences and work out which players will automatically increase in price due to pushing for a double increase in one week and having surplus NTI. So far, my calculations show that the following players will automatically go up (can someone more knowledgeable than me at this please check my assumptions)

Malouda - has an NTI for this gameweek of 71,213. Has had 1 price increase at 39,667 meaning has surplus of 31,546

Drogba's price automatically increased when Gameweek 3 started. Since then he has had an NTI of 30,527 - on that pace, I presume we should see another increase when Gameweek 4 commences.

For the next 2, I completely confused due to the fact they've already increased twice this gameweek - Walcott & Carroll.

Walcott - has an NTI for this gameweek of 150,436. Has had 2 price increases. If we take the simple route, he would have needed approx 31,821 for first increase and double that - 63,642 for 2nd increase. However I think I read somewhere that said that if a player has, say 45000 NTI then his price gets increased by 0.1, but his NTI goes back to 0 - nothing gets rolled over - is that correct?

If so, according to CTC - his growth numbers were 71,973 & 90,433 = 162,406 for this week - 12,000 more than his overall NTI for the week - considering only 786 people have transferred him out this week, I'm confusing myself on whether he should have an automatic increase or if CTC not showing correct figures.

Carroll also had an NTI of 151,630 with 2 increases. Again, for pure simple maths, that would be a needed increase of 31821 + 63642 = 95463. So potentially up for automatic increase but again according to CTC his NTI at price change was 72,300 & 74,162 so can someone who has been dealing with this longer than I have, set me straight with these numbers.

Thanks ahead of time

Nothing rolled over at price change = correct.

Some of the 71,973 may have been rolled over from the previous GW. Excess NTI's are lost on a price change but not at GW deadline time all that happens then is that all target NTI's are reset.

Simply put if no more transfers were to take place this GW then Malouda, Carroll and Walcott would rise on Saturday evening/Sunday morning because their target would be reset to roughly 31K and they would be well in excess.

Currently Scholes and Drogba would be around the 85% mark.

Thanks for that - did forget about rolled over NTIs from previous GW and appreciate confirming that excess NTIs are lost on price change.

I'm now understanding why it takes a 0.2 rise, for us to feel the 0.1 in value - realistically, we could get the influence the market and get a player to rise but it's the neccessity to hold onto that player for another price rise, that prevents false economies from happening (ala Orange Juice prices in Trading Places - now testing your age!)

Is a double drop in GW working the same way or is it always starting at 10% drop and then another 10% drop in ownership? Do NTOs roll onto GWs too?

Can anyone remember what the transfer activity was like on the Thursday/Friday at the end of int week last season? I y
Would presume that the majority of players leave their transfers til the Friday or sat morning before a gameweek, could we see scholes make the double?

There's little incentive for people to make transfers early this week,with Internationals still to be played,so most will wait until those are out of the way and then perhaps wait for team news on Friday,following which there'll be a frenzied bout of trading on Friday night/Saturday morning..if Scholes doesn't go up on Friday night,he probably will on Saturday night, to reflect the newly reset thresholds.