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 Post subject: Chelsea 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
PostPosted: 12 Jul 2011, 10:14 
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back 5??

ivanovic or boswingwa?


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back 5??

ivanovic or boswingwa?


Ivanovic - Terry - Alex/Luiz - Ash Cole


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Alex in front of Luiz I reckon. Luiz is a crap defender lets be honest!! :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Chelsea 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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Is Benayoun going to get his fair share of game time this year? I was thinking with Essien out, Lampard drops back slightly to cover some of Essiens duties which may give Benayoun a wee chance for his creativity to shine.

What do you reckon folks?


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 Post subject: Re: Chelsea 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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Is Benayoun going to get his fair share of game time this year? I was thinking with Essien out, Lampard drops back slightly to cover some of Essiens duties which may give Benayoun a wee chance for his creativity to shine.

What do you reckon folks?

Yes, he'll get his fair share. Fair as in very little, given that he is far inferior to the other players vying for the place. Forget him.


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 Post subject: Re: Chelsea 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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Chelsea bid for teenage Anderlecht striker Romelu Lukaku: http://bit.ly/oLkOcL

Drogba and Torres first choice strikers? Does anyone know if Villas-Boaz plays one up front or with 2 usually? I'm interested to know the formation as I feel there is life in the old Drog yet if they play as a 2.


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 Post subject: Re: Chelsea 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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Sturridge to 'fight for his place' though. And are we counting out Anelka? I think I'm going to steer clear of Chelsea strikers until one or two clear favorites are established.


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 Post subject: Re: Chelsea 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
PostPosted: 25 Jul 2011, 20:02 
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4-3-3 formation looking likely. Rumours of benayoun playing behind strikers, lampard on the right, bosingwa back in the game (reform links with porto past?).

Cech
Bosingwa/Ivanovic - Luiz/Alex - Terry - A Cole
Lampard - Benayoun/Ramires/Mikel - Malouda
Anelka/Kalou - Drogba/Torres - Malouda/Sturridge

Plenty of rotation with Malouda, Anelka, Sturridge and Kalou having roles either side of Torres/Drogba in attack. Also Benayoun, Ramires, Mikel battling it out in the holding role.

I was keen on getting Malouda but might be sensible to keep away. Thoughts?


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 Post subject: Re: Chelsea 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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interesting... can't see sturridge playing on the wing though. I'm really keen to have Malouda in my team but not sure it's worth it in the early stages, even with Chelsea's tasty fixtures


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 Post subject: Re: Chelsea 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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interesting... can't see sturridge playing on the wing though. I'm really keen to have Malouda in my team but not sure it's worth it in the early stages, even with Chelsea's tasty fixtures


What team are you talking about? Depending on what FF game your playing then there are different risks you could take with Malouda or such like.

However players with a lot of game time despite them starting or not will score big points. Malouda will get big game time, I would stake my house on it. He might even get more than Lampard.

Malouda may probably be in every one of my 20ff teams over 4 different games this year for the reason of game time.


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PostPosted: 26 Jul 2011, 10:12 
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Elvis77 wrote:
Malouda will get big game time, I would stake my house on it. He might even get more than Lampard.


I think malouda is safe from rotation compared to others. Im not 100% sure though. Anelka, Sturridge and Kalou are options for either side of Drogba/Torres. I believe Anelka and Kalou prefer the right side, Sturridge probably wont get many opportunities, so that leaves Malouda relatively safe...


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Elvis77 wrote:
Malouda will get big game time, I would stake my house on it. He might even get more than Lampard.


I think malouda is safe from rotation compared to others. Im not 100% sure though. Anelka, Sturridge and Kalou are options for either side of Drogba/Torres. I believe Anelka and Kalou prefer the right side, Sturridge probably wont get many opportunities, so that leaves Malouda relatively safe...


If Torres gets the nod as the 'centre forward' of the attacking 3, on which side could/would Drogba be employed if AVB so desired?


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You would have to assume the right over Anelka/Benayoun/Kalou/Sturridge rather than the left over Malouda.


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You would have to assume the right over Anelka/Benayoun/Kalou/Sturridge rather than the left over Malouda.


Thats what I thought. Could mean Anelka on the left but that is very attacking.

In Liverpool's 2nd place season a couple of year's back, Benayoun often played left midfield in the 4231 behind Torres. Not really suited to it but he was playing well and had to fit in somewhere. Gerrard was in the centre behind Torres ao that role was out and there was little competition on the left.

So, is it fair to say that while there are options for the 'Malouda role' on the left of an attacking 3, Malouda himself is as the likely starter there in the majority of games.


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I would have thought so. AVB was assistant to Mourinho at Chelsea, at least for a while - wasn't he? I wonder is it fair to say AVB's 433 is based on wide forwards, like Robben & Duff were for Mourinho? Malouda must be a cert to start on the left if so. And I'd love to see Yossi get a go on the right rather than shoe horning in another 'middle' man like Anelka.


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 Post subject: Re: Chelsea 2011-12
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2011, 18:39 
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Alex in front of Luiz I reckon. Luiz is a crap defender lets be honest!! :lol: :lol:



I've heard this from a couple of people and am completely bemused by it!!! This guys a great defender!


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 Post subject: Re: Chelsea 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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re Luiz: great except for the first half vs MU.

Front 3: Drog out wide sounds crazy, one of his strengths is his strength, so Torres out wide (left) makes more sense - didn't he do this for Spain in the WC?


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 Post subject: Re: Chelsea 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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Front 3: Drog out wide sounds crazy, one of his strengths is his strength, so Torres out wide (left) makes more sense - didn't he do this for Spain in the WC?


From the Villa game: "This was the first time since Torres's debut that he had shared the field with both Didier Drogba and Anelka , the Frenchman seeming to be operating at the top of a midfield diamond, Maluoda dropping deeper and Torres and Drogba working in tandem up front. While Drogba stayed central, Torres had freedom to float wide, and it was from here on the right that he created his next opportunity single-handedly."

Its just one game but seems to me that if they are both on the pitch Drogba will take the central role, whether that's a 442 or 433. Sounds like Malouda was a more traditional winger rather than wide forward.

What do people think of the Bosingwa revival? I'm getting the feeling from match reports that he could be first choice at RB. Anyone with a better knowledge of Chelsea got an insight?


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 Post subject: Re: Chelsea 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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blahblah wrote:
Front 3: Drog out wide sounds crazy, one of his strengths is his strength, so Torres out wide (left) makes more sense - didn't he do this for Spain in the WC?


From the Villa game: "This was the first time since Torres's debut that he had shared the field with both Didier Drogba and Anelka , the Frenchman seeming to be operating at the top of a midfield diamond, Maluoda dropping deeper and Torres and Drogba working in tandem up front. While Drogba stayed central, Torres had freedom to float wide, and it was from here on the right that he created his next opportunity single-handedly."

Its just one game but seems to me that if they are both on the pitch Drogba will take the central role, whether that's a 442 or 433. Sounds like Malouda was a more traditional winger rather than wide forward.

What do people think of the Bosingwa revival? I'm getting the feeling from match reports that he could be first choice at RB. Anyone with a better knowledge of Chelsea got an insight?


Im interested in both Bosingwa and Benayoun.

Do we think Ivanovic could be 1st choice CB, until Luiz and/or Alex are back


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Luiz is a risk...

He has Alex and Ivanovic in his position. Just end the chat and go with JT and AC.


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Sturridge to stay at Chelsea this season

Andre Villas-Boas has decided to keep Daniel Sturridge at Stamford Bridge this season, disappointing Bolton who had hoped to re-sign the England U21 star on loan.


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 Post subject: Re: Chelsea 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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Any Chelsea fans reckon they have a good idea of the starting line-up next week? I can only confidently predict six of them:

Cech
?
Cole
Terry
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Mikel
Ramires
Lampard
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 Post subject: Re: Chelsea 2011/12 General Chat & Starting X1 Thread
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I don't think even AVB knows what his starting eleven will be. I haven't a scooby do what the back four will be ( cech, cole, terry ?, ? ).
We've got Bosingwa, Ivanovic, Alex, Luis :roll: ................Luis won't surely start next Sunday now, will he ?
Come on AVB, we've got teams to collate here :(


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A new manager along with some promising youngsters looks set to signal a new era under the Abromavich rule. Last season was disappointing given our great start. First with the Wilkins sacking and then trying to shoehorn Torres into a new system undid us. There were still positives though. Luiz and Ramires look excellent prospects and Sturridge comes back to the Bridge looking to kick on from his great stint at Boltan. Last season also proved to the doubters that Roman is far from losing interest and is there to back us for the long term.

This season I have high hopes but with caution as always (been a Chelsea fan too long to know everything is plain sailing). An excellent pre season winning all our games conceding just one sets us up nicely for the campaign ahead. Main aim has to be winning the title back, with winning the Champions League the icing on the cake. An FA Cup wouldn't go amiss either :mrgreen:


Going on pre season form and line ups I will set out what I believe our first eleven will look like without suspensions/injury (except Essien as he is out for ages). With so many options it's impossible to really predict but here goes:


--------------Cech------------

Bosingwa--Alex--Terry---Cole

--------------Mikel------------

----Ramires------------------
---------------Lampard------

-Sturridge-----------Malouda--
------------Drogba-----------


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Ivanovich for Bosingwa very possible. Only picked Bos because he looked good in pre season but wouldn't be surprised to see Ivan line up against a physical Stoke side next week. Luiz is also having some trouble with his knee which could give Alex a chance to reform his partnership with Terry. Expect to see Ryan Bertrand get some game time over the course of the season if he doesn't go out on loan.

Mid:
Essien out is a blow, so will have to hope we see the good Mikel and not the cack one which can be painful to watch. Looked good in pre season at least. I expect Mceachran to get a lot of game time in the mid also. Has had an excellent pre season, hardly put a foot wrong and looks comfortable in the first team set up now. Bennie should also get a fair bit of gametime. Enough to be a FF pick? Maybe, but if Modric turns up forget it. Lampard still a nailed on starter and barring injury should be back to his best.

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Shame Sturridge is unavailable for the first 3 games, so I expect Anelka to be first in line on the right of the front three to start the season. Sturridge has been excellent pre season working on the right wing, cutting onto his trusted left so is my pick to nail that right slot ahead of Anelka/Kalou when given the chance.

Malouda should cement the left birth up front providing his form doesn't fall off a cliff face.

The central role. Where does Torres fit in? Eff knows. He did start to look his old self in pre season, but if Drogba starts against Stoke and hits form in that central role it's difficult to see where he will operate. Maybe AVB will alter the 433 to a 4411 with Torres upfront alone and Drog playing behind? Playing them side by side just doesn't really look an option to me. It's really one or the other but lets see how AVB plays it in the opening fixtures. Maybe it will be a case of whoever looks to be training best will get the nod from game to game. I expect Drogba to start up front against Stoke, but it's really anyones guess.

New signing Lukaku looks a great prospect. This season I don't expect him to get too much game time. More an understudy role with Drogba the man he will eventually replace. Could be sooner rather than later if he grabs any chance he gets.


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I wouldn't be surprised to see Torres off to the continent, isn't Lukaku the new Drogba? What has happened to Kakuta?


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How has Malouda looked so far this preseason?


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'KAKUTA STAYS IN SOUTH AMERICA
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Gael Kakuta played the first half against Mali as France progressed into the knockout stages of the Under 20 World Cup in Columbia.'


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nice thread. Useful stuff, thanks !


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anyone got any views on back 4 apart fromn Terry and Cole (particularly interested in Bosingwa vs Ivanovic)


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Any further news on Mikel, is he likely to play this weekend?


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