....or down as "game week 19" either. I lost any chance of winning this competition overall a while back, so thought would go for a monthly win attempt, and will be a bit miffed if this rearranged match doesn't count for scoring purposes. Not just that, but i would expect everyone to be able to make a transfer (or more than one if forfeiting points) for this match. It would seem bizarre, but the game week counter indicates 13 days from now before next game week. The site just isn't well written - it specifically states "make transfers for every game week", yet i'm hoping to make a few before next saturday jan 8th, which isn't the start of a "game week" yet does now include a (rearranged) match. On the boxing day thread we thought this was sorted, but being able to make a transfer EVERY saturday is not the same as being able to make a transfer every game week.

I can only guess that the metro organisers hadn't considered this when drawing up the rules. Similar thing happens in february after fa cup round 5, three rescheduled matches then too. And this whole idea of a "game week" seems alien/fabricated to me - but then i don't play the fpl game.

I suspect that the Game week is being lumped into 2 weeks as there is just the one re-arranged game during the week 8th to 14th Jan.

Should I have made a Nani to Gerrard switch before last weekend? I suppose I will
have to live with having no Liverpool players.

Great spot quizking. I will also be miffed if the game does not count as I've started bringing in Liverpool players for the upcoming extra games.

Looking at the "Live Scoring" tab though it does have the Liverpool match scheduled for the 12/1. As you said the site is so poor that it has not updated to reflect this game yet.

Aww good spot - worth shooting of some mails to them I reckon

Good to see that it's mentioned on the live scoring list, even if not on game week 20. It's not that the site is poor - just that if they have a game with relatively complicated scoring, it surely makes it more important that they get the details right. This competition as much as any other will be decided by just a few points, so every detail matters - and whoever wins in the end will have spotted everything.

What do we think will happen to this? Will it go in with this GW Scores!! If so i have missed the boat.

Surely it has to go on its own in the next game week. You can't have a competition based around 'game weeks' then just have a random unannounced 'game fortnight' half way through. Or can you?

Unless someone has already done so, i will mail the Metro tomorrow.

Had an excellent New year so far. My top team scored 689pts from 10 players and moved up to 382nd overall, but took just 5 pts off the leader.

Have E mailed the Metro this morning for clarification.

Yes and me, if it is a seperate GW!! How many 25pt hit is it worth!!

A good few. You'd get this week as a bonus, then a double GW, then a home game against Stoke, followed by the 6 transfer week to correct your team.

Effectively 1 extra game if you're subbing out a player from a team that has a rearranged fixture on 25/26 Jan, or 2 extra games if the existing player doesn't have an extra fixture.

1 or 2 games to make back 25 points on your first 5 or so transfers. Fill yer boots!

If anyone gets an answer on this could they please post it. I'm currently 34th overall and will be devastated if were already in the gameweek!!!

Indications on a brief reply from metro on their facebook page that the blackpool liverpoool match counts as part of the current game week, so we won't be able to make any transfers for it. News mail to go out tomorrow apparently.

"Hi - the game on the 12th is part of this game-week. Apologies for the slow reply. We have only been running a minimal service over Xmas/ new year. This info will be going out in the weekly Tuesday e-mail."

A shame if that is confirmed - i had been enjoying this game, but will have wasted my time making plans and thinking about a "strategy", if the structure of the game as it is can't accomodate real life changes in fixtures. This fixture was NOT listed as part of the current game week on the site at the time that transfers had to be made last saturday - so i can't see why there shouldn't still be a deadline this coming saturday. As i suggested earlier in this thread - and others have mentioned on the facebook thread - it would appear that GFM did not take the possiblity of fixtures being rearranged into account when setting up this game. I suggested to them back on june 22nd that they were bringing in the idea of "game weeks", and fixed transfer deadlines, in order to try to appeal to people used to the fpl game. It will have backfired on them, if they end up alienating some of the more dedicated type of ff follower, such as most of those on fiso.

Not happy, as things seem to stand. But hopefully there is time for a change of mind - there is no mention on the site of when future, or indeed past, gameweeks are set.

Bump - as i had to change my earlier post, re a facebook reply from another interested party. The metro/gfm rep on facebook had mentioned back in june (22nd) that transfers would be available every saturday in the new game. Additionally, i mentioned to them back then that a once weekly transfer cut-off (rather than transfers per day or even per match) made things easier for "multi-entrants" to organise teams, but this was of course ignored, it seems that they had already decided on the course of the new game, not taking into account any pertinent/relevant or even helpful comments from their clientelle, despite having asked for them. Whoops, sorry, off topic.

I don't see why there would be any debate. Weeks run from Saturday noon to Saturday noon every week except the one they listed in the terms.

Has this season's game ever been any different? Weeks (with one exception), not Gameweeks.

No, I agree - the point i was trying to make to them (back on the facebook thing last june) was that they were trying to copy aspects of the fpl game. I don't remember "gameweeks" ever being mentioned in english football before the fpl game existed. I cannot see any reason why we shouldn't be able to make transfers before this saturday at 12, and know that they will come into effect for the blackpool liverpool match; unless some programmer has already determined otherwise. In which case, it should be undetermined and reprogrammed.

Clearly a cock-up by them, and especially galling for people who have carefully planned for the extra game by bringing in Liverpool/Blackpool players but now have them sitting helplessly on their bench (wrongly expecting to be able to substitute them on to the field before Saturday at 12). Likewise those planning to captain one of them. Metro may have decided off the cuff - wrongly in my view, but understandably - that they don't want people doing loads of transfers for 25 point hits in order to 'pocket the difference', and therefore have suddenly come up with this random 'game fortnight'. However, even if they decide not to allow any transfers this week, the very least they should do is admit that they didn't foresee the situation and as a compromise allow some shuffling around of existing players and captaincy (or alternatively, and even better, allow one free transfer only, no 25 point hits). I think as many of us as possible should email them making a plea for this as a minimum.

I'd be surprised if they admit making a mistake. But I wouldn't be surprised if they change the "rules" in time for the extra fixtures after fa cup round 5 - which wouldn't otherwise count as a so called "game week".

For the credability of the game the Blackpool/Liverpool has to count and transfer deadline being this saturday coming up !
It would be best if the Metro just admitted they messed and didnt foresee this happening!

Happy New Year guys

I just sent this to fantasygames@react-now.co.uk ..

'Hi

I have seen a comment attributed to Metro Fantasy Football on Facebook suggesting the Blackpool-Liverpool game will be included in the current game-week

That decision , if implemented , makes a mockery out of the whole game

I make a living out of fantasy football . I won The Metro game last year . I appreciate the game was changed to make it harder for people like myself who invest a lot of time in fantasy football – that is fair enough . However , it is unfair and unprofessional to change the stated rules at this , or any , time of the season . Especially considering the fact that I , and many others , have invested a significant amount of money (as well as time) in pay-to-play tournaments

Please stick to the published rules

Andy Edwards'

I would encourage all FISOers to contact them with own opinions

Cheers

Andy

Nice work, yes I sent them an Email last week as well...

I sent a similar email this morning (last night for you chaps).

Basically stated that the rules are the rules. Stick to them. People are playing to them.

Had emial from Metro with an Update..


Confirming that Blackpool v Liverpool will be included in Current GW..!! ....Ohhh Well.. Should use a Crystal ball next time..

Out of curiosity, now that the Blackpool V Liverpool game is in the current Game week, how many players will people have playing in the Blackpool V Liverpool game.

I can confirm None as I have no Blackpool or Liverpool exposure. (So I am bound to fall down the table next week) as I had planned to bring Gerrard in this weekend and was also considering Glen Johnson for a 25 pt hit.

There are still a few days left for them to correct their mistake . I am not confident at all but I don't think we should give up on the subject

Andy

Dont have Any kept Nani..... .. Hopefully they will be rested!!..

Just worried in my Toureny's... thats if somone has a Blackpool/Liverpool Mix, they would romp it!! or would they..

Andy - likewise. For reference, here's the first relevant bit of the rules;

19. Rules:
Metro reserves the right to refuse to accept any entry into the Metro Game which in Metro’s sole opinion does not comply with the Terms and Conditions or which contravenes the spirit of the Metro Game. Metro has an absolute discretion to disqualify any entry, or vary, amend or waive the Terms and Conditions of the Metro Game at any time and participants agree that no liability will attach itself to Metro as a result thereof and that the exercise of such discretion will not result in any compensation being payable or paid to any participant. It is a condition of entry that all rules are accepted as final and that the participant agrees to abide by the Terms and Conditions. The Metro Game Rules form part of the Terms and Conditions. The Metro Game Rules are published on the Metro Game Website. In the case of conflict between the Metro Game Rules and the remainder of the Terms and Conditions, the remainder of the Terms and Conditions shall prevail. Any changes to the Metro Game Rules will be posted on the Metro Game Rules section of the Metro Game Site. Any breach by any Manager of the Metro Game Rules shall be treated as a breach of the Terms and Conditions. The Editor of Metro reserves the right in his reasonable discretion to (a) declare as void any entries or claims resulting from any printing, production or online display errors, (b) add to or waive these Terms and Conditions on reasonable notice; and/or (c) cancel the Metro Game or any part of it at any stage in the event of circumstances beyond Metro's reasonable control. Metro do not accept any liability for losses suffered by you as a result of your participation in the Metro Game nor for any losses resulting from your inability to access the Metro Game via the Metro Game Website (including without limitation not be able to register transfers by the applicable deadlines as detailed on the Metro Game Website). Metro and GFM agree to use their reasonable endeavors to maintain the Metro Game Website in a fully operating condition and error free. As neither Metro or GFM can guarantee that the Metro Game Website will always be fully operational or error free, they do not accept responsibility for any defects that may exist or for any costs or losses arising from your use of or inability to access the Metro Game Website. In the event that any liability does arise then the liability of Metro whether in contract, tort or at law shall be limited in aggregate to the money paid by you in lieu of registration to play the Metro Game.

...which basically says they can change rules if they like - but they will announce a rule change if it's made. However, here's the earlier relevant part, at the end of section 6;

Only matches played in the 2010/11 Premier League will count for scoring purposes. The Premier League is scheduled to run from Saturday, August 14, 2010 to Sunday, May 22, 2011. Abandoned matches where the result does not stand will not count. The Metro Game 'week' will run from noon each Saturday (the ‘Game Week’). The judges' decision will be final and Metro will not enter into any correspondence regarding points deducted or allocated to players. Scores will be updated daily, online after the last scoring match in any day has been completed.

Well that hasn't changed - and it still defines a game week as, er, a week. Starting each saturday.

Just had a call back from the gambling commission; due to the free-to-enter element of the game, and despite there being cash prizes, they did not see it as part of their remit to get involved. Yes, I explained that there is a pay-to-play element as well. but they could only suggest taking any complaints up with the promoter.

However, i'm only in the free-to-enter part. Someone else might feel that they have a grievance worth pursuing, if they have paid to enter.

Its amazing the amateurs that run these FF Comps!

Just to Rub it in, email from Ian at Metro.


Hi


The rescheduled Blackpool v Liverpool game to be played on Wednesday 12th January will score points in the current game week, which is game week 21. The next game week will start scoring points from midday 15th January.

The tournament winners will be paid out within the next 14 days.



Kind regards



Ian